Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread karthikeyan.balasubramanian
Hi,

  Can we have mp3 and other format players on Linux.  Generally the thing
which we would like to achieve is something like
VH1.com wherein it checks for the availability of players on Users(Linux)
System and would start playing.

  How do i achive this.

  Have a great day.

karthikeyan.


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Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread Richard Crawford
Well, I renamed .kde to .kde_bad and .gconfd to .gconfd_bad, and removed
/tmp/orbit-*.  That seems to have cleared up all of my problems.  Thanks
for all the suggestions and the help.

Shawn asked,

> Are you up-to-date with patches from RedHat? 

The answer to that is yes. ;-)  I run the update manager a couple of
times a week, just to be sure.

Shawn also asked,

> Have you installed a non-RedHat gnome?  
> If so, you'll want to get it up-to-date.

Again, yes and yes.  I've got Ximian GNOME on my system, though I
generally use KDE as my desktop (for various reasons which I know about
and which I'm really too lazy to research at this point, Ximian's
development version of GNOME 2.0 is unstable on my system); it's up to
date.

I don't know why the problem began in the first place, unless some
process went out of control while I was away.  But I think that my other
problems came about, actually, because I was experimenting with a wonky
installation of GNOME 2.0, and that probably messed up my gconfd files
which caused all of the problems.  So renaming those configuration
directories has helped.  And I've got Evolution running again.

Again, thanks for the help.  Off to do some heavy research now.

Oh, and just for the record... while my Linux box was down, I had to
resort to using my company's laptop, which has WinXP on it.  Yes, the
rumors are true.  WinXP sucks.

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Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread Troy Arnold
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 02:09:07PM -0800, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
> Here is the output of "df -h".

looks fine.
 
> Here is the output of "free".  Honestly, I don't know what I should be 
> looking for (I know, that's a lot of points off my geek score), but 3036 
> under the "free" column looks kinda low to me.
> 
>   total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem:255104 252068   3036  4536   9532
> -/+ buffers/cache: 242000  13104
> Swap:   530104 442604  87500

You'll want to look at the cached column too.  It's normal for a Linux
system to report little "free" memory.  Your free+cached is low for a
system that isn't doing much.

> ...and finally, the first few lines produced by "top".  If I'm reading 
> this right, gconfd-2 is eating up a lot of processor cycles, even though 
> I'm using KDE and not GNOME.  But that's only if I'm reading it right.
> 
> 10377 rscrawfo  15   0  473M  81M16 D 0.9 32.5   1:30 gconfd-2
>  5 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.5  0.0  11:00 kswapd
> 10641 rscrawfo  13   0   836  800   616 R 0.3  0.3   0:00 top
>  1 root   8   0   108   6040 S 0.0  0.0   0:05 init
>  2 root   8   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 keventd
>  3 root  19  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00 
> ksoftirqd_CPU0
>  4 root  19  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00 
> ksoftirqd_CPU1

That doesn't look right to me.  Gconfd doesn't appear to be eating up an
undue amount of CPU, but it's definitely being piggish on the RAM.

I would try the earlier suggestion to rename ~/.kde, and amend that to
include renaming ~/.gconf{d}

Also, I cleared up an X problem once by removing /tmp/orbit*

-ta
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Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread Shawn P. Neugebauer
On Sunday 08 December 2002 02:09 pm, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
[df output snipped]
> Here is the output of "free".  Honestly, I don't know what I should be
> looking for (I know, that's a lot of points off my geek score), but 3036
> under the "free" column looks kinda low to me.
>
>   total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem:255104 252068   3036  4536   9532
> -/+ buffers/cache: 242000  13104
> Swap:   530104 442604  87500

The 3036 isn't necessarily bad, but you're also used up 80% of your
swap space!

> ...and finally, the first few lines produced by "top".  If I'm reading
> this right, gconfd-2 is eating up a lot of processor cycles, even though
> I'm using KDE and not GNOME.  But that's only if I'm reading it right.
>
> 10377 rscrawfo  15   0  473M  81M16 D 0.9 32.5   1:30 gconfd-2

%CPU is 0.9, %MEM is 32.5.  gconfd-2 has eaten a lot of memory.
Also, the "D" indicates the process is in an uninterruptible sleep--if it's
still that way, the process is stuck.

The slowness you are experiencing is probably due to swapping.
(Are you hearing lots of disk activity when you try to do anything?)

gconfd is a gnome registry-like utility.  So, the question is, why is it
eatting up so much memory, what's it doing, and why does it keep doing
it through repeated logouts, logins, etc.?

I see at least one bug report in the gnome bugzilla regarding a bad
memory leak in gconfd--but it fills /var/log/messages with lots of stuff.
Is there any corroborating evidence in /var/log/messages, or
/var/log/XFree86.0.log? Are you up-to-date with patches from RedHat?  
That would be step one.  Have you installed a non-RedHat gnome?  
If so, you'll want to get it up-to-date.

shawn.
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Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread Richard S. Crawford
Here is the output of "df -h".  Things look pretty normal to me here. 
Lucien is my laptop that serves as an ad-hoc server at home, and 
Training-pc4 is the laptop my company gave me.  ;-)

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda2 7.9G  6.9G  704M  91% /
/dev/hda7  10G  5.2G  4.4G  54% /home
/dev/hda6 4.0G  637M  3.3G  16% /u1
none  125M 0  124M   0% /dev/shm
//lucien/lucien_c 4.0G  3.0G  1.0G  73% /luc_docs
//Training-pc4/laptopdocs
   19G  6.0G   12G  32% /laptop


Here is the output of "free".  Honestly, I don't know what I should be 
looking for (I know, that's a lot of points off my geek score), but 3036 
under the "free" column looks kinda low to me.

 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:255104 252068   3036  4536   9532
-/+ buffers/cache: 242000  13104
Swap:   530104 442604  87500


...and finally, the first few lines produced by "top".  If I'm reading 
this right, gconfd-2 is eating up a lot of processor cycles, even though 
I'm using KDE and not GNOME.  But that's only if I'm reading it right.

10377 rscrawfo  15   0  473M  81M16 D 0.9 32.5   1:30 gconfd-2
5 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.5  0.0  11:00 kswapd
10641 rscrawfo  13   0   836  800   616 R 0.3  0.3   0:00 top
1 root   8   0   108   6040 S 0.0  0.0   0:05 init
2 root   8   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 keventd
3 root  19  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00 
ksoftirqd_CPU0
4 root  19  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00 
ksoftirqd_CPU1


For what it's worth, my computer is a dual-processor Pentium-III, 
866MHz, with 256M of RAM and 20GB hard drive space (well, 40GB, since 
20GB of that is taken up with my Win2K installation -- I really ought to 
do something about that some day).

Still soliciting suggestions...


Bill Kendrick wrote:
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 08:48:39AM -0800, Rod Roark wrote:


Check if you're running out of memory (free), disk space 
(df) or if something is hogging the CPU (top).


I was going to suggest checking 'df', too.

Melissa's system once acted quite wonky (couldn't log in from XDM).
It ended up being that / was full because lpd or someone kept
complaining into /var/log/messages every 5 minutes.

Her tiny (at the time) hard disk filled up, and since so many things
expect to be able to dump things in /tmp, they all started dying strangely.

We killed the lpd and eventually stuck another 10GB drive in, and it's been
fine since. ;)

-bill!

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Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread Robert G. Scofield
On Sunday 08 December 2002 08:28 am, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
> I came back from a week-long business trip in Santa Barbara to find that
> my RH7.2 box is acting kinda weird. 

You might try subscribing to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

While I have not been following the issue I've noticed (as I've been deleting 
the posts) that there have been complaints similar to yours.  Some people 
feel that KDE is not working that well on Red Hat right now.

There are people on that list that can help you out.

Bob 
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Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread Bill Kendrick
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 08:48:39AM -0800, Rod Roark wrote:
> Check if you're running out of memory (free), disk space 
> (df) or if something is hogging the CPU (top).

I was going to suggest checking 'df', too.

Melissa's system once acted quite wonky (couldn't log in from XDM).
It ended up being that / was full because lpd or someone kept
complaining into /var/log/messages every 5 minutes.

Her tiny (at the time) hard disk filled up, and since so many things
expect to be able to dump things in /tmp, they all started dying strangely.

We killed the lpd and eventually stuck another 10GB drive in, and it's been
fine since. ;)

-bill!

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Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?

2002-12-08 Thread Rod Roark
Check if you're running out of memory (free), disk space 
(df) or if something is hogging the CPU (top).

If that all looks OK, try shutting down KDE and renaming 
~/.kde to something else, which will make it treat you as a
brand-new user.

-- Rod
   http://www.sunsetsystems.com/

On Sunday 08 December 2002 08:28 am, Richard S. Crawford wrote:
> I came back from a week-long business trip in Santa Barbara to find that
> my RH7.2 box is acting kinda weird.  Normally, I leave it up and running
> when I'm gone, since I feel comfortable with my firewall setup* and so I
> can log in and move some files around in case I decide to work on a
> story while on the road.  When I came back, I logged into my computer to
> find the following...
>
> 1.  KDE is broken.  Or something.  In the taskbar, the icons for running
> programs no longer display the name of the program, if that makes sense.
>
> 2.  More seriously, I can't access anything from the KDE menu.  When I
> try clicking on the menu icon, KDE slows down glacially for several
> minutes before I can start using anything again.  And the menu never
> shows up.  The same thing happens if I try right-clicking on the desktop.
>
> 3.  Sometimes, KDE just freezes.  Kaput.  I'm used to this sort of thing
> from Windows, but my Linux box has been nice and stable ever since I
> replaced my hard drive.  But this morning I stepped away from my
> computer to get some breakfast, and came back to find that my
> screensaver was paused, and nothing I could do -- whether moving the
> mouse or clicking the mouse or typing on the keyboard -- could get
> things going again.
>
> I'd love to upgrade to KDE 3.01 but haven't a clue how to go about doing
> that (I admit, I still consider myself a newbie); GNOME 2.0 is
> unreliable on my computer; and I'm not sure how to reinstall from my
> source disks without zarking LILO.
>
> I can fix most of the problems on my computer without any serious issues
> (getting MySQL to play with PHP and Apache on my box was a challenge,
> but fun!) but X and window managers, while I like using them, have me
> flummoxed.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Richard
>
>
> * For what it's worth, I've poked around on my system as much as I can
> and I can't find any evidence that my system was hacked into while I was
> gone; and that was the explanation I'd come up with for why my system
> started acting so weird while I was gone.  That, and hard drive issues.
>   Which is not a possibility I'm willing to entertain just yet if I can
> at all avoid it.

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