Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
Jonathan, I'd like to know more about this card. I've seen USB 2.0 PC-Cards at the various computer stores and always wanted to look into that for my laptop I have an external CD-burner that works well (but slow) in my ThinkPad's regular USB port. If you don't mind and have time: 1. Which PC-Card USB 2.0 adapter did you get? 2. Run me through the basic setup (what module, config, etc.) 3. What was the _work around_ you mentioned? 4. Any way to test the throughput that you know of? Dave Margolis On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Jonathan Stickel wrote: > I actually used an external DVD+/-RW drive (and an external HD) > connected to my laptop through a PMCMCIA USB2.0 card. As far as I could > tell, no problems with byte transfer there at all, after I got it all > setup. My 2.4.20 kernel liked to crash when I ejected the card, though, > but I found a work-a-round. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 04:03:05PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > btw, what is DVD-RAM format? seems to be distinct from DVD+/-R/RW. Here are a couple of on-the-surface explanations of the different DVD formats: http://www.dvdirect.com/TSS/charts/DVDFormats.htm http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardware_Software/2003/DVDFormatsExplained.asp -David ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 04:03:05PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue 16 Sep 03, 3:15 PM, Jan W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I have done a bit of burning of DVD+R and +RW media for work here. > > > > I use cdrecord-prodvd and xcdroast for the GUI. > > > > I have successfully recorded 4.7 GB of data on +R media, but I have no > > experience with -R media whatsoever. We use Plextor 504A. > > i've had my eye on the 708-UF. just need to get myself a USB 2.0 > motherboard (if they exist yet) or a card. and check USB 2.0 status in > the linux kernel. > > btw, what is DVD-RAM format? seems to be distinct from DVD+/-R/RW. DVD-RAM is an older format for DVD writers. By older I mean I saw it in stores first. I have no idea the actual history of these devices. I saw a creative DVD RAM burner several(more than 5) years ago at Incredible Universe of all places(although it could have been Microcenter, memory is a touch hazy, must be getting old) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
Thanks for all the response about DVD burning. I'll have to try out cdrecord-prodvd. Pete: I actually used an external DVD+/-RW drive (and an external HD) connected to my laptop through a PMCMCIA USB2.0 card. As far as I could tell, no problems with byte transfer there at all, after I got it all setup. My 2.4.20 kernel liked to crash when I ejected the card, though, but I found a work-a-round. I also just bought a motherboard with both USB2 and firewire built in. Haven't tried external devices with it in Linux yet, but I don't anticipate any problems. Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue 16 Sep 03, 3:15 PM, Jan W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I have done a bit of burning of DVD+R and +RW media for work here. I use cdrecord-prodvd and xcdroast for the GUI. I have successfully recorded 4.7 GB of data on +R media, but I have no experience with -R media whatsoever. We use Plextor 504A. i've had my eye on the 708-UF. just need to get myself a USB 2.0 motherboard (if they exist yet) or a card. and check USB 2.0 status in the linux kernel. btw, what is DVD-RAM format? seems to be distinct from DVD+/-R/RW. pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
I have had my eyes on the exact same (708UF) drive for awhile now. Maybe my boss will pick one up soon (I hope). I have no idea what DVD-RAM format is, though. I think 2.0 motherboards are out there, and 2.0 support has been in the ehci driver for awhile now (since early versions of 2.4, I think). HTHO, jan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue 16 Sep 03, 3:15 PM, Jan W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I have done a bit of burning of DVD+R and +RW media for work here. > > > > I use cdrecord-prodvd and xcdroast for the GUI. > > > > I have successfully recorded 4.7 GB of data on +R media, but I have no > > experience with -R media whatsoever. We use Plextor 504A. > > i've had my eye on the 708-UF. just need to get myself a USB 2.0 > motherboard (if they exist yet) or a card. and check USB 2.0 status in > the linux kernel. > > btw, what is DVD-RAM format? seems to be distinct from DVD+/-R/RW. > > pete > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech = <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< MONEY, n. A blessing that is of no advantage to us excepting when we part with it. An evidence of culture and a passport to polite society. Supportable property. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
On Tue 16 Sep 03, 3:15 PM, Jan W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I have done a bit of burning of DVD+R and +RW media for work here. > > I use cdrecord-prodvd and xcdroast for the GUI. > > I have successfully recorded 4.7 GB of data on +R media, but I have no > experience with -R media whatsoever. We use Plextor 504A. i've had my eye on the 708-UF. just need to get myself a USB 2.0 motherboard (if they exist yet) or a card. and check USB 2.0 status in the linux kernel. btw, what is DVD-RAM format? seems to be distinct from DVD+/-R/RW. pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
I have done a bit of burning of DVD+R and +RW media for work here. I use cdrecord-prodvd and xcdroast for the GUI. I have successfully recorded 4.7 GB of data on +R media, but I have no experience with -R media whatsoever. We use Plextor 504A. >From what I know of DVD, can't you use a block copy (dd) to build your image, and then cdrecord to burn? Or is your problem with burning the actual image? I had lots of problems burning when I was using the cdrecord-prodvd binary. The latest version of xcdroast (0.98alpha14) seemed to help out alot with the issues that I was having. But even now, it says that there are "errors writing tracks" when the burn was completely successful, so it's still kinda weird. Any help I can give, please let me know. HTHO, jan --- Jonathan Stickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not too long ago I acquired a Sony DVD+/-RW drive and looked into > 'backing up' a purchased DVD onto DVD5 media. The best resource I found > was: > > http://www.doom9.org/ > > Unfortunately, the software is all for windows. I did find a some stuff > for linux (dvd::rip) that would rip the DVD to a hardrive and transcode > to something that fits on a CD (VCD, AVI, etc.), but I had no luck > converting the title VOBs to something usable that would burn to a DVD5. > > In addition, I had no success buring DVD+R/RW media in linux using > dvd+rw-tools. I have not yet tried dvd-record with DVD-R/RW media. > > Anyone have a positive experience backing up DVDs in linux? writing > DVD+ media in linux? > > Jonathan > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > has any company or organization challenged the right for the public to > > make backup copies of their own commercially purchased DVD's? > > > > are there any affordable home consumer DVD writers that can write to > > DVD9 (single side, double layer, ~9GB) disks? > > > > pete > > ___ > > vox mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox > > > > > > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech = <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< MONEY, n. A blessing that is of no advantage to us excepting when we part with it. An evidence of culture and a passport to polite society. Supportable property. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:50:48AM -0700, Jonathan Stickel wrote: > Not too long ago I acquired a Sony DVD+/-RW drive and looked into > 'backing up' a purchased DVD onto DVD5 media. The best resource I found > was: > > http://www.doom9.org/ > > Unfortunately, the software is all for windows. I did find a some stuff > for linux (dvd::rip) that would rip the DVD to a hardrive and transcode > to something that fits on a CD (VCD, AVI, etc.), but I had no luck > converting the title VOBs to something usable that would burn to a DVD5. > > In addition, I had no success buring DVD+R/RW media in linux using > dvd+rw-tools. I have not yet tried dvd-record with DVD-R/RW media. > > Anyone have a positive experience backing up DVDs in linux? writing > DVD+ media in linux? Yes, in fact, I have. I did use the dvd+rw-tools and successfully burned DVD-Rs and RWs. What sort of problems did you experience? > Jonathan > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >has any company or organization challenged the right for the public to > >make backup copies of their own commercially purchased DVD's? > > > >are there any affordable home consumer DVD writers that can write to > >DVD9 (single side, double layer, ~9GB) disks? > > > >pete > >___ > >vox mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox > > > > > > ___ > vox-tech mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- R. Douglas Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dooglio.net vi: "The way God meant for man to edit text files..." GPG Fingerprint: FE6A 6A57 2B95 7594 E534 BFEE 45F1 9E5E F30A 8A27 GPG Public key : http://www.dooglio.net/dooglio.asc pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 15 September 2003 11:50 am, Jonathan Stickel wrote: > Not too long ago I acquired a Sony DVD+/-RW drive and looked into > 'backing up' a purchased DVD onto DVD5 media. The best resource I found > was: > > http://www.doom9.org/ > > Unfortunately, the software is all for windows. I did find a some stuff > for linux (dvd::rip) that would rip the DVD to a hardrive and transcode > to something that fits on a CD (VCD, AVI, etc.), but I had no luck > converting the title VOBs to something usable that would burn to a DVD5. > > In addition, I had no success buring DVD+R/RW media in linux using > dvd+rw-tools. I have not yet tried dvd-record with DVD-R/RW media. > > Anyone have a positive experience backing up DVDs in linux? writing > DVD+ media in linux? Yeah. I have a Sony DW-U10A. Got it working with cdrecord-prodvd 2.01a12 Worked with +R and +RW media, but had errors after burning 4 MB of data on the -R media I tried. Though looking at some fourms, this may be a firmware issue, as it aparently has prombelms with -R/-RW media on windows as well... The other issue is that cdrecord-prodvd is non-free. The source is not available, and you need a key to unlock it. The key is free for "private/research/educational_non-commercial_use" but commercial users must pay some amount. - -- PGP/GPG Fingerprint: 3B30 C6BE B1C6 9526 7A90 34E7 11DF 44F3 7217 7BC7 On pgp.mit.edu, import with `gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key 72177BC7` Also available at http://www.cal.net/~ryan/ryan_at_mother_dot_com.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ZhSfEd9E83IXe8cRAqOCAKCEXTkdVPyP82O4d0R9P64kINEYcQCfcZ40 g+eECYR1dXE26XbVWxZ8r9Y= =oFoV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon 15 Sep 03, 11:50 AM, Jonathan Stickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Not too long ago I acquired a Sony DVD+/-RW drive and looked into 'backing up' a purchased DVD onto DVD5 media. The best resource I found was: http://www.doom9.org/ nice url; thanks. bookmarked. here's something i found which may or may not be useful. it's more reading than i'm willing to do ATM, but it seems to be from somebody's personal experience, which is valuable: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ Thanks, but this is where I got dvd+rw-tools from already. It is a set of command line utilities for writing to dvd+r/rw. I did read the whole webpage, but the best I could do was blank +RW media with the tools. All my DVD+RW writes failed. :-( Jonathan pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
On Mon 15 Sep 03, 11:50 AM, Jonathan Stickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Not too long ago I acquired a Sony DVD+/-RW drive and looked into > 'backing up' a purchased DVD onto DVD5 media. The best resource I found > was: > > http://www.doom9.org/ nice url; thanks. bookmarked. here's something i found which may or may not be useful. it's more reading than i'm willing to do ATM, but it seems to be from somebody's personal experience, which is valuable: http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
