Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time (fwd)

2004-03-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 03:56:05PM -0800, Jeff Newmiller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I accidentally sent this only to Peter... here it is for the record:
> 
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> > On Wed 03 Mar 04, 12:04 PM, Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > If cron and anacron are both installed in Debian, /etc/crontab is
> > > configured to skip daily/weekly/monthly processing, because
> > > /etc/anacrontab specifies those as well, and if your machine is regularly
> > > shut down, then anacron is better suited to handle it.  What burns me is
> > > that one _or_ the other should be installed...  someone must have decided
> > > that cron was good for some things and anacron good for others and wanted
> > > both installed... leaving you erroneously thinking you were having some
> > > effect by editing the daily entry in /etc/crontab.
> > > 
> > > In their defense, though, the solution _is_ right there in the line you
> > > edited...
> >  
> > i'm still don't understand -- how does anacron know when, that is the
> > *time* (not the date) to run?
> 
> This puzzled me too.. thanks to Steve Wormley for pointing me to the
> solution:
> 
> Vixie cron processes three sets of crontabs... /etc/crontab, individual
> crontabs (/var/spool/cron/username), and any crontabs found in
> /etc/cron.d/.  anacron is invoked periodically by a line in
> /etc/cron.d/anacron, and uses the period specs in /etc/anacrontab and
> last-executed timestamps in /var/spool/anacron/* to determine whether
> enough time has passed that it should invoke the daily/weekly/monthly
> processing.

less /usr/share/doc/cron/README.anacron

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Ken Bloom
Go read my other post. It's in the vox list archives. It came from the
list.

On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 01:42:12PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote:
> It's not from the list.
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's someone on our list who got infected, though.  I,
> too, received such trogen from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  This trogen seems
> to be shuffling various addresses together to come up with some clever
> "From:" line that looks legit.
> 
> If any of you use Windows, has a bunch of LUGOD people's addresses in your
> addressbook, and have someone from livepenguin.com in your addressbook,
> you're the culprit.  Get a email trogen filter.
> 
> BTW, just 'cuz it's on the mailing archive doesn't necessarily mean it was
> sent through the mailing list.  It just means the mailing archive received
> the e-mail, and whatever method used to determine its legitness got
> passed.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> 
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> > On Wed 03 Mar 04, 10:07 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > >
> > > >ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
> > > >i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:
> > > >
> > > >   Arggghh, I hate plaintext!
> > > >
> > > >   Here is your excel file.
> > > >
> > > >   I don't bite, weah!
> > > >
> > > >   Your file is attached.
> > > >
> > > >i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
> > > >strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
> > > >carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.
> > > >
> > > >also, i just got a bounced email, with MY email address on it.  it said:
> > > >
> > > >   I know about you!
> > > >
> > > >and it was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a US senator's
> > > >office.  holy cow.  i sure hope the secret service doesn't come after
> > > >me!   ;-)
> > > >
> > > >pete
> > > >
> > >
> > > ClamAV is filtering that virus out for me. I installed ClamAV yesterday
> > > morning to handle that problem - apparently the school's virus checker
> > > hasn't updated to recognize that virus yet. I also got one from vox (which
> > > I trust so I don't usually subject it to spam and virus filtering). Perhaps
> > > we need a virus scanner on the lists even for subscribed members.
> >
> > ken,
> >
> > from vox?  or do you mean forged to look like it came from vox?  i don't
> > recall seeing one from the list...
> >
> > i know how to filter based on attachment content (since the content is
> > just part of the body).  i need to google for how you filter based on
> > attachment name.  i don't recall there being any headers declaring the
> > name of attachments...
> >
> > pete
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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time (fwd)

2004-03-03 Thread Jeff Newmiller
I accidentally sent this only to Peter... here it is for the record:

On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> On Wed 03 Mar 04, 12:04 PM, Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

[...]

> > If cron and anacron are both installed in Debian, /etc/crontab is
> > configured to skip daily/weekly/monthly processing, because
> > /etc/anacrontab specifies those as well, and if your machine is regularly
> > shut down, then anacron is better suited to handle it.  What burns me is
> > that one _or_ the other should be installed...  someone must have decided
> > that cron was good for some things and anacron good for others and wanted
> > both installed... leaving you erroneously thinking you were having some
> > effect by editing the daily entry in /etc/crontab.
> > 
> > In their defense, though, the solution _is_ right there in the line you
> > edited...
>  
> i'm still don't understand -- how does anacron know when, that is the
> *time* (not the date) to run?

This puzzled me too.. thanks to Steve Wormley for pointing me to the
solution:

Vixie cron processes three sets of crontabs... /etc/crontab, individual
crontabs (/var/spool/cron/username), and any crontabs found in
/etc/cron.d/.  anacron is invoked periodically by a line in
/etc/cron.d/anacron, and uses the period specs in /etc/anacrontab and
last-executed timestamps in /var/spool/anacron/* to determine whether
enough time has passed that it should invoke the daily/weekly/monthly
processing.

> i see references to the last date job X ran in /etc/anacrontab.

You do? Those should be in /var/spool/anacron/* ... for example:

--- /var/spool/anacron/cron.daily/ ---
20040303
--

and /etc/anacrontab should have time interval specifications:

--- /etc/anacrontab ---
# /etc/anacrontab: configuration file for anacron

# See anacron(8) and anacrontab(5) for details.

SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin

# These replace cron's entries
1   5   cron.daily   nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
7   10  cron.weekly  nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly
30  15  cron.monthly nice run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly
---

as documented in man anacrontab.

> i understand that anacron prolly looks at these dates when it first
> runs.

Every time it runs.

> i don't see any mention of anacron in /etc/crontab.  how does it run
> after bootup?

um, /etc/init.d/anacron?

I realize now that anacron cannot run separately from cron... but this is
still an absurdly complicated system just to get things to run
periodically.  Also, why retain /etc/crontab at all if /etc/cron.d is
going to be used?

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Mark K. Kim
It's not from the list.

I'm pretty sure it's someone on our list who got infected, though.  I,
too, received such trogen from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  This trogen seems
to be shuffling various addresses together to come up with some clever
"From:" line that looks legit.

If any of you use Windows, has a bunch of LUGOD people's addresses in your
addressbook, and have someone from livepenguin.com in your addressbook,
you're the culprit.  Get a email trogen filter.

BTW, just 'cuz it's on the mailing archive doesn't necessarily mean it was
sent through the mailing list.  It just means the mailing archive received
the e-mail, and whatever method used to determine its legitness got
passed.

-Mark


On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> On Wed 03 Mar 04, 10:07 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> > >ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
> > >i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:
> > >
> > >   Arggghh, I hate plaintext!
> > >
> > >   Here is your excel file.
> > >
> > >   I don't bite, weah!
> > >
> > >   Your file is attached.
> > >
> > >i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
> > >strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
> > >carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.
> > >
> > >also, i just got a bounced email, with MY email address on it.  it said:
> > >
> > >   I know about you!
> > >
> > >and it was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a US senator's
> > >office.  holy cow.  i sure hope the secret service doesn't come after
> > >me!   ;-)
> > >
> > >pete
> > >
> >
> > ClamAV is filtering that virus out for me. I installed ClamAV yesterday
> > morning to handle that problem - apparently the school's virus checker
> > hasn't updated to recognize that virus yet. I also got one from vox (which
> > I trust so I don't usually subject it to spam and virus filtering). Perhaps
> > we need a virus scanner on the lists even for subscribed members.
>
> ken,
>
> from vox?  or do you mean forged to look like it came from vox?  i don't
> recall seeing one from the list...
>
> i know how to filter based on attachment content (since the content is
> just part of the body).  i need to google for how you filter based on
> attachment name.  i don't recall there being any headers declaring the
> name of attachments...
>
> pete
>
>
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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> On Wed 03 Mar 04, 11:28 AM, Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Ken Herron wrote:
> > 
> > > --On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:11:10 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> > 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > > >> /etc/cron.daily
> > > >>
> > > >> That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't
> > > >> exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?
> > > >
> > > > ken,
> > > >
> > > > yeah, it does exist.   daily definitely runs.  it just runs at a time i
> > > > wasn't expecting.
> > > 
> > > My point was that if /usr/sbin/anacron exists, then the crontab line 
> > > above will not run cron.daily. You say that /usr/sbin/anacron exists, so 
> > > cron.daily is not being launched as a result of the above crontab line. 
> > > That means something else is running it. Something like anacron, for 
> > > example.
> > 
> > This list is great.  This explains a longstanding puzzle (to me) of how
> > (and to some extent why) both cron and anacron are installed on my debian
> > box.
> > 
> > Now that I see how it works, I am not too impressed with this kludge,
> > though... this is a deceptively obtuse configuration duplication between
> > these two packages.
> 
> ok, maybe i'm slow, but i don't understand why that line will only
> launch if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't exist.
> 
> /etc/init.d/cron gets run upon startup.  the only test i see is:
> 
>test -f /usr/sbin/cron || exit 0
> 
> it doesn't look look for /usr/sbin/anacron.  what am i missing?

That is not the test in question.  Search for anacron in your original
email.

If cron and anacron are both installed in Debian, /etc/crontab is
configured to skip daily/weekly/monthly processing, because
/etc/anacrontab specifies those as well, and if your machine is regularly
shut down, then anacron is better suited to handle it.  What burns me is
that one _or_ the other should be installed...  someone must have decided
that cron was good for some things and anacron good for others and wanted
both installed... leaving you erroneously thinking you were having some
effect by editing the daily entry in /etc/crontab.

In their defense, though, the solution _is_ right there in the line you
edited...

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 03 Mar 04, 11:56 AM, Samuel N. Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 11:40:24AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > On Wed 03 Mar 04, 11:28 AM, Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Ken Herron wrote:
> > > 
> > > > --On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:11:10 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >> > 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > > > >> /etc/cron.daily
> > > > >>
> > > > >> That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't
> > > > >> exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?
> > > > >
> > > > > ken,
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah, it does exist.   daily definitely runs.  it just runs at a time i
> > > > > wasn't expecting.
> > > > 
> > > > My point was that if /usr/sbin/anacron exists, then the crontab line 
> > > > above will not run cron.daily. You say that /usr/sbin/anacron exists, so 
> > > > cron.daily is not being launched as a result of the above crontab line. 
> > > > That means something else is running it. Something like anacron, for 
> > > > example.
> > > 
> > > This list is great.  This explains a longstanding puzzle (to me) of how
> > > (and to some extent why) both cron and anacron are installed on my debian
> > > box.
> > > 
> > > Now that I see how it works, I am not too impressed with this kludge,
> > > though... this is a deceptively obtuse configuration duplication between
> > > these two packages.
> > 
> > ok, maybe i'm slow, but i don't understand why that line will only
> > launch if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't exist.
> 
> The shell uses short-circuit evaluation on conditionals. When it sees 
> A || B
> it first evaluates A. Then if A is true, the value of the whole
> conditional has to be true, so B never even gets evaluated. 
> 
> So, if "test -e /usr/sbin/anacron" is true because anacron is installed,
> then the shell doesn't bother with "run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily"
> because it has already figured out the value of the conditional.
> 
> On the other hand, if "test -e /usr/sbin/anacron" is false, then the
> shell is looking at (false || "run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily"),
> which evaluates to whatever the right-hand side evaluates to. 
  
aiiieee

if i told you what going through my head, you wouldn't believe me.

ok.  ken, jeff, sam.  sorry.  i'll shut up now.

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Samuel N. Merritt
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 11:40:24AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> On Wed 03 Mar 04, 11:28 AM, Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Ken Herron wrote:
> > 
> > > --On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:11:10 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> > 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > > >> /etc/cron.daily
> > > >>
> > > >> That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't
> > > >> exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?
> > > >
> > > > ken,
> > > >
> > > > yeah, it does exist.   daily definitely runs.  it just runs at a time i
> > > > wasn't expecting.
> > > 
> > > My point was that if /usr/sbin/anacron exists, then the crontab line 
> > > above will not run cron.daily. You say that /usr/sbin/anacron exists, so 
> > > cron.daily is not being launched as a result of the above crontab line. 
> > > That means something else is running it. Something like anacron, for 
> > > example.
> > 
> > This list is great.  This explains a longstanding puzzle (to me) of how
> > (and to some extent why) both cron and anacron are installed on my debian
> > box.
> > 
> > Now that I see how it works, I am not too impressed with this kludge,
> > though... this is a deceptively obtuse configuration duplication between
> > these two packages.
> 
> ok, maybe i'm slow, but i don't understand why that line will only
> launch if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't exist.

The shell uses short-circuit evaluation on conditionals. When it sees 
A || B
it first evaluates A. Then if A is true, the value of the whole
conditional has to be true, so B never even gets evaluated. 

So, if "test -e /usr/sbin/anacron" is true because anacron is installed,
then the shell doesn't bother with "run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily"
because it has already figured out the value of the conditional.

On the other hand, if "test -e /usr/sbin/anacron" is false, then the
shell is looking at (false || "run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily"),
which evaluates to whatever the right-hand side evaluates to. 
 
> /etc/init.d/cron gets run upon startup.  the only test i see is:
> 
>test -f /usr/sbin/cron || exit 0
> 
> it doesn't look look for /usr/sbin/anacron.  what am i missing?
> 
> pete
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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 03 Mar 04, 11:28 AM, Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Ken Herron wrote:
> 
> > --On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:11:10 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > >> > 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > >> /etc/cron.daily
> > >>
> > >> That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't
> > >> exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?
> > >
> > > ken,
> > >
> > > yeah, it does exist.   daily definitely runs.  it just runs at a time i
> > > wasn't expecting.
> > 
> > My point was that if /usr/sbin/anacron exists, then the crontab line 
> > above will not run cron.daily. You say that /usr/sbin/anacron exists, so 
> > cron.daily is not being launched as a result of the above crontab line. 
> > That means something else is running it. Something like anacron, for 
> > example.
> 
> This list is great.  This explains a longstanding puzzle (to me) of how
> (and to some extent why) both cron and anacron are installed on my debian
> box.
> 
> Now that I see how it works, I am not too impressed with this kludge,
> though... this is a deceptively obtuse configuration duplication between
> these two packages.

ok, maybe i'm slow, but i don't understand why that line will only
launch if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't exist.

/etc/init.d/cron gets run upon startup.  the only test i see is:

   test -f /usr/sbin/cron || exit 0

it doesn't look look for /usr/sbin/anacron.  what am i missing?

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Ken Herron wrote:

> --On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:11:10 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> > 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >> /etc/cron.daily
> >>
> >> That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't
> >> exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?
> >
> > ken,
> >
> > yeah, it does exist.   daily definitely runs.  it just runs at a time i
> > wasn't expecting.
> 
> My point was that if /usr/sbin/anacron exists, then the crontab line 
> above will not run cron.daily. You say that /usr/sbin/anacron exists, so 
> cron.daily is not being launched as a result of the above crontab line. 
> That means something else is running it. Something like anacron, for 
> example.

This list is great.  This explains a longstanding puzzle (to me) of how
(and to some extent why) both cron and anacron are installed on my debian
box.

Now that I see how it works, I am not too impressed with this kludge,
though... this is a deceptively obtuse configuration duplication between
these two packages.

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Re: Worm (was Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time)

2004-03-03 Thread Rod Roark
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 10:50 am, Ryan wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 March 2004 10:25 am, Jeff Newmiller
> jdnewmil-at-dcn.davis.ca.us |lugod| wrote:
> 
> > Seriously... these emails are cropping up so much in the last day that
> > this has to be a worm.  I haven't seen any analyses of this one, though.
> 
> http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/bagles.html

Interesting.  The zip file is encrypted and so has no
signature.

What I'd really like to do is reject all emails containing
zip files, subject to a whitelist of mail servers.  However
Postfix seems to have no direct support for that.

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Ken Bloom
On 2004.03.03 10:13, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
On Wed 03 Mar 04, 10:07 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
> >i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:
> >
> >   Arggghh, I hate plaintext!
> >
> >   Here is your excel file.
> >
> >   I don't bite, weah!
> >
> >   Your file is attached.
> >
> >i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
> >strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
> >carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.
> >
> >also, i just got a bounced email, with MY email address on it.  it
said:
> >
> >   I know about you!
> >
> >and it was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a US senator's
> >office.  holy cow.  i sure hope the secret service doesn't come after
> >me!   ;-)
> >
> >pete
> >
>
> ClamAV is filtering that virus out for me. I installed ClamAV yesterday
> morning to handle that problem - apparently the school's virus checker
> hasn't updated to recognize that virus yet. I also got one from vox
(which
> I trust so I don't usually subject it to spam and virus filtering).
Perhaps
> we need a virus scanner on the lists even for subscribed members.
ken,

from vox?  or do you mean forged to look like it came from vox?  i don't
recall seeing one from the list...
i know how to filter based on attachment content (since the content is
just part of the body).  i need to google for how you filter based on
attachment name.  i don't recall there being any headers declaring the
name of attachments...
pete
It was forged to look like it came from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it wound  
up in my lugod folder (which matches the following condition in maildrop):

if (/^Reply-To: *vox.*lugod/:h ||   \
   /^Subject: .*\[vox/:h )
{
   to $MAILBOX/lugod
}
therefore, I conclude it was actually sent *to* the list.

Moreover, it's in the vox archive at:
http://www.lugod.org/mailinglists/archives/vox/2004-03/msg00014.html
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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Ken Herron


--On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:11:10 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.daily
That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't
exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?
ken,

yeah, it does exist.   daily definitely runs.  it just runs at a time i
wasn't expecting.
My point was that if /usr/sbin/anacron exists, then the crontab line 
above will not run cron.daily. You say that /usr/sbin/anacron exists, so 
cron.daily is not being launched as a result of the above crontab line. 
That means something else is running it. Something like anacron, for 
example.

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Re: Worm (was Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time)

2004-03-03 Thread Ryan
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> Seriously... these emails are cropping up so much in the last day that
> this has to be a worm.  I haven't seen any analyses of this one, though.

http://sophos.com/virusinfo/articles/bagles.html

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Nicole TWN
At 10:06 AM 3/3/2004, you wrote:
I just got a message from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with an apparent zip file
attached.  Here's what it says:
"Looking  forward for  a response :P
password: 17468
AttachedFile.zip"


I got it too!

I'm betting it's some sort of malware (zipping them is apparently the 
latest trick to getting them past mail scanners), but I'm NOT testing that 
theory as I'm on a Windows box at work.

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Worm (was Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time)

2004-03-03 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Robert G. Scofield wrote:

> On Wednesday 03 March 2004 09:43, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >
> > ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
> > i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:
> >
> >Arggghh, I hate plaintext!
> >
> >Here is your excel file.
> >
> >I don't bite, weah!
> >
> >Your file is attached.
> >
> > i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
> > strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
> > carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.
> 
> I just got a message from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with an apparent zip file 
> attached.  Here's what it says:
> 
> "Looking  forward for  a response :P
>  
> password: 17468
> AttachedFile.zip"
> 
> Does anyone know what this is all about?

You are supposed to open the zipfile using the password and run the
contents. ;)


Seriously... these emails are cropping up so much in the last day that
this has to be a worm.  I haven't seen any analyses of this one, though.

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 03 Mar 04, 10:07 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> >ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
> >i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:
> >
> >   Arggghh, I hate plaintext!
> >
> >   Here is your excel file.
> >
> >   I don't bite, weah!
> >
> >   Your file is attached.
> >
> >i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
> >strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
> >carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.
> >
> >also, i just got a bounced email, with MY email address on it.  it said:
> >
> >   I know about you!
> >
> >and it was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a US senator's
> >office.  holy cow.  i sure hope the secret service doesn't come after
> >me!   ;-)
> >
> >pete
> >
> 
> ClamAV is filtering that virus out for me. I installed ClamAV yesterday  
> morning to handle that problem - apparently the school's virus checker  
> hasn't updated to recognize that virus yet. I also got one from vox (which  
> I trust so I don't usually subject it to spam and virus filtering). Perhaps 
> we need a virus scanner on the lists even for subscribed members.
 
ken,

from vox?  or do you mean forged to look like it came from vox?  i don't
recall seeing one from the list...

i know how to filter based on attachment content (since the content is
just part of the body).  i need to google for how you filter based on
attachment name.  i don't recall there being any headers declaring the
name of attachments...

pete


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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 03 Mar 04, 10:07 AM, Ken Herron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> 
> --On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 04:38:35 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report 
> /etc/cron.daily
> 
> That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't 
> exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?
 
ken,

yeah, it does exist.   daily definitely runs.  it just runs at a time i
wasn't expecting.

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Ken Bloom
On 2004.03.03 09:43, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
On Wed 03 Mar 04,  9:32 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> On 2004.03.03 09:18, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >On Wed 03 Mar 04,  9:00 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >> On 2004.03.03 04:38, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >> >cron is running sometime around 7:30am:
> >> >
> >> > 8646 ?SN 0:00 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> >> > 8651 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/checksecurity
> >> > 8678 ?SN 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/checksecurity
> >> > 8714 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh
> >/usr/share/checksecurity/check-setuid
> >> > 8724 ?RN 0:06 find / /boot /var /usr/local /home /data
> >-xdev
> >> >( -fal
> >> > 8725 ?SN 0:00 sort
> >> > 8733 ?R  0:00 xterm -class UXTerm -title uxterm -u8
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
> >> >Wed Mar 03  7:37 AM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >yet, i think it should at 4:25am if i have my fields correct:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >SHELL=/bin/sh
> >> >PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> >> >
> >> >17 * * * * root  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
> >> >25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >> >/etc/cron.daily
> >> >47 6 * * 7 root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >> >/etc/cron.weekly
> >> >52 6 1 * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >> >/etc/cron.monthly
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >why is the daily cron running at 7:30am?
> >>
> >> What time did you start up the machine? The cron jobs will run
through
> >> anacron shortly after startup if they haven't been run in a certain
> >time
> >
> >> period. Seeing as how my computer is always shutdown at 4:25am, my
> >daily
> >
> >> cronjobs always run shortly after I start up. If I started up the
> >machine
> >> at 7:25, they'd run at about 7:30.
> >
> >ken, that's a good guess.  unfortunately, this machine has been up  
ever
> >since i replaced the CPU fans (one of which died, and the other one
> >sounded like a wailing ghost).  that was about 12 days ago...
>
> I know you recently moved from Davis to the east coast. Did you  
remember
to
> change the timezone on the machine when you moved?

heh.  ken, that was an excellent idea, but unfortunately, i did.   :-)

pete

ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:
   Arggghh, I hate plaintext!

   Here is your excel file.

   I don't bite, weah!

   Your file is attached.

i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.
also, i just got a bounced email, with MY email address on it.  it said:

   I know about you!

and it was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a US senator's
office.  holy cow.  i sure hope the secret service doesn't come after
me!   ;-)
pete

ClamAV is filtering that virus out for me. I installed ClamAV yesterday  
morning to handle that problem - apparently the school's virus checker  
hasn't updated to recognize that virus yet. I also got one from vox (which  
I trust so I don't usually subject it to spam and virus filtering). Perhaps  
we need a virus scanner on the lists even for subscribed members.

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Ken Herron


--On Wednesday, March 03, 2004 04:38:35 -0800 Peter Jay Salzman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report 
/etc/cron.daily

That line will only launch "run-parts" if /usr/sbin/anacron doesn't 
exist. Does /usr/sbin/anacron exist?

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Robert G. Scofield
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 09:43, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
>
> ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
> i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:
>
>Arggghh, I hate plaintext!
>
>Here is your excel file.
>
>I don't bite, weah!
>
>Your file is attached.
>
> i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
> strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
> carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.

I just got a message from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" with an apparent zip file 
attached.  Here's what it says:

"Looking  forward for  a response :P
 
password: 17468
AttachedFile.zip"

Does anyone know what this is all about?

Bob

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 03 Mar 04,  9:32 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> On 2004.03.03 09:18, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >On Wed 03 Mar 04,  9:00 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >>
> >> On 2004.03.03 04:38, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >> >cron is running sometime around 7:30am:
> >> >
> >> > 8646 ?SN 0:00 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> >> > 8651 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/checksecurity
> >> > 8678 ?SN 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/checksecurity
> >> > 8714 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh
> >/usr/share/checksecurity/check-setuid
> >> > 8724 ?RN 0:06 find / /boot /var /usr/local /home /data
> >-xdev
> >> >( -fal
> >> > 8725 ?SN 0:00 sort
> >> > 8733 ?R  0:00 xterm -class UXTerm -title uxterm -u8
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
> >> >Wed Mar 03  7:37 AM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >yet, i think it should at 4:25am if i have my fields correct:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >SHELL=/bin/sh
> >> >PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> >> >
> >> >17 * * * * root  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
> >> >25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >> >/etc/cron.daily
> >> >47 6 * * 7 root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >> >/etc/cron.weekly
> >> >52 6 1 * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >> >/etc/cron.monthly
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >why is the daily cron running at 7:30am?
> >>
> >> What time did you start up the machine? The cron jobs will run through
> >> anacron shortly after startup if they haven't been run in a certain  
> >time
> >
> >> period. Seeing as how my computer is always shutdown at 4:25am, my  
> >daily
> >
> >> cronjobs always run shortly after I start up. If I started up the
> >machine
> >> at 7:25, they'd run at about 7:30.
> >
> >ken, that's a good guess.  unfortunately, this machine has been up ever
> >since i replaced the CPU fans (one of which died, and the other one
> >sounded like a wailing ghost).  that was about 12 days ago...
> 
> I know you recently moved from Davis to the east coast. Did you remember to 
> change the timezone on the machine when you moved?
 
heh.  ken, that was an excellent idea, but unfortunately, i did.   :-)

pete

ps- is there a new virus?  all of a sudden, starting from last night
i've gotten a huge ton of emails that say things like:

   Arggghh, I hate plaintext!

   Here is your excel file.

   I don't bite, weah!

   Your file is attached.

i normally don't see viruses because i filter based on executable
strings in every win32 executable.  but these viruses seem to be
carrying .zip and .pif payloads which are getting past my filter.

also, i just got a bounced email, with MY email address on it.  it said:

   I know about you!

and it was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], a US senator's
office.  holy cow.  i sure hope the secret service doesn't come after
me!   ;-)

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 03 Mar 04,  9:24 AM, Jeff Newmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Ken Bloom wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 2004.03.03 04:38, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > > cron is running sometime around 7:30am:
> > > 
> > >  8646 ?SN 0:00 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> > >  8651 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/checksecurity
> > >  8678 ?SN 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/checksecurity
> > >  8714 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/checksecurity/check-setuid
> > >  8724 ?RN 0:06 find / /boot /var /usr/local /home /data -xdev
> > > ( -fal
> > >  8725 ?SN 0:00 sort
> > >  8733 ?R  0:00 xterm -class UXTerm -title uxterm -u8
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] date
> > > Wed Mar 03  7:37 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > yet, i think it should at 4:25am if i have my fields correct:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > SHELL=/bin/sh
> > > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> > > 
> > > 17 * * * * root  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
> > > 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > > /etc/cron.daily
> > > 47 6 * * 7 root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > > /etc/cron.weekly
> > > 52 6 1 * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > > /etc/cron.monthly
> > > 
> > > 
> > > why is the daily cron running at 7:30am?
> > 
> > What time did you start up the machine? The cron jobs will run through  
> > anacron shortly after startup if they haven't been run in a certain time  
> > period. Seeing as how my computer is always shutdown at 4:25am, my daily  
> > cronjobs always run shortly after I start up. If I started up the machine  
> > at 7:25, they'd run at about 7:30.
> 
> Another thought... did you use the "crontab -e" command to make the
> change to the crontab file?
 
excuse my ignorance.  for some reason, this is stuff that just doesn't
get stored into my long term memory...

from the top of /etc/crontab:

# Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab'
# command to install the new version when you edit this file.


maybe i forgot to restart cron (is that necessary)?  i thought i did.

anyhow, i *definitely* restarted it just now and added another daily
system cron to print out date into /etc/cron.diagnostic.  i've been
waking up very early lately.  i'll see what happens and report tomorrow
morning...

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Wed 03 Mar 04,  9:00 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> On 2004.03.03 04:38, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >cron is running sometime around 7:30am:
> >
> > 8646 ?SN 0:00 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> > 8651 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/checksecurity
> > 8678 ?SN 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/checksecurity
> > 8714 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/checksecurity/check-setuid
> > 8724 ?RN 0:06 find / /boot /var /usr/local /home /data -xdev
> >( -fal
> > 8725 ?SN 0:00 sort
> > 8733 ?R  0:00 xterm -class UXTerm -title uxterm -u8
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
> >Wed Mar 03  7:37 AM
> >
> >
> >yet, i think it should at 4:25am if i have my fields correct:
> >
> >
> >SHELL=/bin/sh
> >PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> >
> >17 * * * * root  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
> >25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >/etc/cron.daily
> >47 6 * * 7 root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >/etc/cron.weekly
> >52 6 1 * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >/etc/cron.monthly
> >
> >
> >why is the daily cron running at 7:30am?
> 
> What time did you start up the machine? The cron jobs will run through  
> anacron shortly after startup if they haven't been run in a certain time  
> period. Seeing as how my computer is always shutdown at 4:25am, my daily  
> cronjobs always run shortly after I start up. If I started up the machine  
> at 7:25, they'd run at about 7:30.

ken, that's a good guess.  unfortunately, this machine has been up ever
since i replaced the CPU fans (one of which died, and the other one
sounded like a wailing ghost).  that was about 12 days ago...

wierd!

pete

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Jeff Newmiller
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Ken Bloom wrote:

> 
> On 2004.03.03 04:38, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> > cron is running sometime around 7:30am:
> > 
> >  8646 ?SN 0:00 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> >  8651 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/checksecurity
> >  8678 ?SN 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/checksecurity
> >  8714 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/checksecurity/check-setuid
> >  8724 ?RN 0:06 find / /boot /var /usr/local /home /data -xdev
> > ( -fal
> >  8725 ?SN 0:00 sort
> >  8733 ?R  0:00 xterm -class UXTerm -title uxterm -u8
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] date
> > Wed Mar 03  7:37 AM
> > 
> > 
> > yet, i think it should at 4:25am if i have my fields correct:
> > 
> > 
> > SHELL=/bin/sh
> > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> > 
> > 17 * * * * root  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
> > 25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > /etc/cron.daily
> > 47 6 * * 7 root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > /etc/cron.weekly
> > 52 6 1 * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> > /etc/cron.monthly
> > 
> > 
> > why is the daily cron running at 7:30am?
> 
> What time did you start up the machine? The cron jobs will run through  
> anacron shortly after startup if they haven't been run in a certain time  
> period. Seeing as how my computer is always shutdown at 4:25am, my daily  
> cronjobs always run shortly after I start up. If I started up the machine  
> at 7:25, they'd run at about 7:30.

Another thought... did you use the "crontab -e" command to make the
change to the crontab file?

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Ken Bloom
On 2004.03.03 09:18, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
On Wed 03 Mar 04,  9:00 AM, Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> On 2004.03.03 04:38, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> >cron is running sometime around 7:30am:
> >
> > 8646 ?SN 0:00 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
> > 8651 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/checksecurity
> > 8678 ?SN 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/checksecurity
> > 8714 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh
/usr/share/checksecurity/check-setuid
> > 8724 ?RN 0:06 find / /boot /var /usr/local /home /data
-xdev
> >( -fal
> > 8725 ?SN 0:00 sort
> > 8733 ?R  0:00 xterm -class UXTerm -title uxterm -u8
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
> >Wed Mar 03  7:37 AM
> >
> >
> >yet, i think it should at 4:25am if i have my fields correct:
> >
> >
> >SHELL=/bin/sh
> >PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
> >
> >17 * * * * root  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
> >25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >/etc/cron.daily
> >47 6 * * 7 root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >/etc/cron.weekly
> >52 6 1 * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
> >/etc/cron.monthly
> >
> >
> >why is the daily cron running at 7:30am?
>
> What time did you start up the machine? The cron jobs will run through
> anacron shortly after startup if they haven't been run in a certain  
time

> period. Seeing as how my computer is always shutdown at 4:25am, my  
daily

> cronjobs always run shortly after I start up. If I started up the
machine
> at 7:25, they'd run at about 7:30.
ken, that's a good guess.  unfortunately, this machine has been up ever
since i replaced the CPU fans (one of which died, and the other one
sounded like a wailing ghost).  that was about 12 days ago...
I know you recently moved from Davis to the east coast. Did you remember to  
change the timezone on the machine when you moved?

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Re: [vox-tech] cron - not at a different time

2004-03-03 Thread Ken Bloom
On 2004.03.03 04:38, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
cron is running sometime around 7:30am:

 8646 ?SN 0:00 run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
 8651 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /etc/cron.daily/checksecurity
 8678 ?SN 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/checksecurity
 8714 ?SN 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/share/checksecurity/check-setuid
 8724 ?RN 0:06 find / /boot /var /usr/local /home /data -xdev
( -fal
 8725 ?SN 0:00 sort
 8733 ?R  0:00 xterm -class UXTerm -title uxterm -u8
[EMAIL PROTECTED] date
Wed Mar 03  7:37 AM
yet, i think it should at 4:25am if i have my fields correct:

SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
17 * * * * root  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
25 4 * * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.daily
47 6 * * 7 root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.weekly
52 6 1 * * root test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report
/etc/cron.monthly
why is the daily cron running at 7:30am?
What time did you start up the machine? The cron jobs will run through  
anacron shortly after startup if they haven't been run in a certain time  
period. Seeing as how my computer is always shutdown at 4:25am, my daily  
cronjobs always run shortly after I start up. If I started up the machine  
at 7:25, they'd run at about 7:30.

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