Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello

On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 01:29:02AM +0200, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 12:49:54PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Just uploaded 208 debs for Debian. Please test.
> 
> thanks a lot Ola!
> 
> btw, did you incorporate the updates for the alternative
> syscall implementation yet? if so, we found a bug today
> and fixed it promptly, if not, please consider to do so
> 
> the following patches should be of interest to you:
> 
>  
> http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/UTIL-VSERVER/delta-0.30.208-kheaders.diff
>  
> http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/UTIL-VSERVER/delta-0.30.208-shiny7.diff
> 
I used the 208 relese with the corresponding patch file.

I was not able to apply the patch files you give me here...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/build/debian/util-vserver/unstable/util-vserver-0.30.208$ 
patch -p1 < debian/patches/delta-0.30.208-kheaders.diff
patching file kernel/cvirt_def.h
Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/build/debian/util-vserver/unstable/util-vserver-0.30.208$ 
patch -p1 < debian/patches/delta-0.30.208-shiny7.diff
patching file lib/syscall-alternative.h
Hunk #1 FAILED at 1.
1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file lib/syscall-alternative.h.rej

> they fix syscall support for many archs debian still
> supports ...

Interesting.

Regards,

// Ola

> best,
> Herbert
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[Vserver] Problem Starting up a Vserver instance

2005-08-18 Thread Subhabrata Bhattacharya
Hi,

I am struggling to get a single vserver instance up.I use this command
to build the vserver from scratch:

$ vserver tserv build -m skeleton --hostname face --interface
eth0:10.1.10.1 --rootdir=/var/lib/vservers --force

This file (and a few others) was automatically created

$ cat /etc/vservers/tserv/fstab
none /procprocdefaults  0 0
none /tmp tmpfs   size=16m,mode=17770 0
none /dev/pts devpts  gid=5,mode=6200 0

This is my vservers.conf
$ cat /etc/vservers.conf
BACKGROUND=no
VSERVERS_ROOT=/var/lib/vservers
GENERATEMTAB=yes

But when I try to start the vserver instance I get this error:

$ vserver tserv start

secure-mount: chdir("/tmp"): No such file or directory
/usr/local/etc/vservers/tserv/fstab:2:1: failed to mount fstab-entry
find: var/run: No such file or directory
fakerunlevel: open("/var/run/utmp"): No such file or directory


Failed to start vserver 'tserv'

What could have gone wrong?

~$ubh
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Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 12:49:54PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Just uploaded 208 debs for Debian. Please test.

thanks a lot Ola!

btw, did you incorporate the updates for the alternative
syscall implementation yet? if so, we found a bug today
and fixed it promptly, if not, please consider to do so

the following patches should be of interest to you:

 
http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/UTIL-VSERVER/delta-0.30.208-kheaders.diff
 
http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/UTIL-VSERVER/delta-0.30.208-shiny7.diff

they fix syscall support for many archs debian still
supports ...

best,
Herbert

> Regards,
> 
> // Ola

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Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Thomas Gelf
> http://incoming.debian.org/

cool, didn't know that ;-) thnx!

installed it on a testhost, stopped/started two vservers, restarted
vprocunhide (didn't restart the whole host as I need it atm :)

seems that everything is fine - I have to leave now, will do more tests
later.

Cheers,
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Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:43:41PM +0200, Thomas Gelf wrote:
> Hi Ola,
> 
> I would really like to test it immediately - but atm I can see that
> you did something ( http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/util-vserver.html
> and http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/util-vserver/news/1.html ) but 
> have no idea where to get the binary package from.

http://incoming.debian.org/

Regards,

// Ola

> Cheers,
> Thomas Gelf
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 18.08.2005, 12:49 +0200 schrieb Ola Lundqvist:
> > Hello
> > 
> > Just uploaded 208 debs for Debian. Please test.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > // Ola
> > 
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:32:31AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > > Hello
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 01:47:49PM +0200, Harald Kapper wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:19:45 + (UTC), John Goerzen <[EMAIL 
> > > > PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >> The debian maintainer is working on .208 debs now:
> > > > >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321659
> > > > >
> > > > >It was really trivial (<5 min) to take the 207 and make 208 debs.  I've
> > > > >posted my source packages at http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/vs/ for
> > > > >anyone that wants them.
> > > > >
> > > > >They include fix1.
> > > > 
> > > > hi
> > > > thanks for the dsc - one odd thing came up through building - it 
> > > > claimed (though
> > > > installed) that beecrypt couldn't be found and this would not allow to 
> > > > vhashify
> > > > - actually I'm quite clueless what this finally means, but maybe 
> > > > someone here
> > > > can enlighten me.
> > > 
> > > Note that if you use beecrypt2 it will work. That library is not
> > > included in Debian sid so I can not use it.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > // Ola
> > > 
> > > > regards
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Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Andreas John

Hi!

I have the same problem - where does the light go in the night? In the 
fridge? Where are debian packages uploaded by a maintainer but not 
available in sid and experimental? I cannot find an FTP link ;(


Ola, please help those without patience! :)

rgds,
Andreas

Thomas Gelf wrote:

Hi Ola,

I would really like to test it immediately - but atm I can see that
you did something ( http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/util-vserver.html
and http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/util-vserver/news/1.html ) but 
have no idea where to get the binary package from.


Cheers,
Thomas Gelf

Am Donnerstag, den 18.08.2005, 12:49 +0200 schrieb Ola Lundqvist:


Hello

Just uploaded 208 debs for Debian. Please test.

Regards,

// Ola

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:32:31AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:


Hello

On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 01:47:49PM +0200, Harald Kapper wrote:


On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:19:45 + (UTC), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



The debian maintainer is working on .208 debs now:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321659


It was really trivial (<5 min) to take the 207 and make 208 debs.  I've
posted my source packages at http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/vs/ for
anyone that wants them.

They include fix1.


hi
thanks for the dsc - one odd thing came up through building - it claimed (though
installed) that beecrypt couldn't be found and this would not allow to vhashify
- actually I'm quite clueless what this finally means, but maybe someone here
can enlighten me.


Note that if you use beecrypt2 it will work. That library is not
included in Debian sid so I can not use it.

Regards,

// Ola



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Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Thomas Gelf
btw: I was using your 0.30.207-7 (on sarge) for a while now - it's
running fine (also with vs2.0)

Am Donnerstag, den 18.08.2005, 12:49 +0200 schrieb Ola Lundqvist:
> Hello
> 
> Just uploaded 208 debs for Debian. Please test.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> // Ola

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Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Thomas Gelf
Hi Ola,

I would really like to test it immediately - but atm I can see that
you did something ( http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/util-vserver.html
and http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/util-vserver/news/1.html ) but 
have no idea where to get the binary package from.

Cheers,
Thomas Gelf

Am Donnerstag, den 18.08.2005, 12:49 +0200 schrieb Ola Lundqvist:
> Hello
> 
> Just uploaded 208 debs for Debian. Please test.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> // Ola
> 
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:32:31AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > Hello
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 01:47:49PM +0200, Harald Kapper wrote:
> > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:19:45 + (UTC), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > >> The debian maintainer is working on .208 debs now:
> > > >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321659
> > > >
> > > >It was really trivial (<5 min) to take the 207 and make 208 debs.  I've
> > > >posted my source packages at http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/vs/ for
> > > >anyone that wants them.
> > > >
> > > >They include fix1.
> > > 
> > > hi
> > > thanks for the dsc - one odd thing came up through building - it claimed 
> > > (though
> > > installed) that beecrypt couldn't be found and this would not allow to 
> > > vhashify
> > > - actually I'm quite clueless what this finally means, but maybe someone 
> > > here
> > > can enlighten me.
> > 
> > Note that if you use beecrypt2 it will work. That library is not
> > included in Debian sid so I can not use it.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > // Ola
> > 
> > > regards
> > > Harald Kapper, icq# 36178328 http://kapper.net
> > > software-development and loeblichgasse   6
> > > security-consulting  1090 vienna,  .at
> > > tel +43 1 3195500-0, fax +43 1 3195502, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > --mark---
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Re: [Vserver] can not deactivate any block device with running vserver 2.0

2005-08-18 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:14:35AM +0200, Enrico Scholz wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("lukas.rueegg [pixworx multimedia]") writes:
> 
> >>   c) using the cleanup feature we added to the kernel
> >>  (please discuss this with Enrico)
> > enrico, we read your talk with sam and others in november '04 but didn't
> > get any hints about the current status. is there any way of cleaning up
> > a new namespace in the pre-start-script or generally for all namespaces
> > available?
> >
> > at the moment, we are playing around with the pre-start-scripts, until
> > now unsuccessfully...
> 
> atm, manual unmounting in the *pre-start script will be the best
> choice. The architecture of the 'vserver' script does not allow
> automatic cleanup. Perhaps I will add some logic datermining and
> unmounting removable devices but this will be more a hack than a
> clean solution.
> 
> I am thinking about a daemon doing the vserver startup; this daemon
> could be started very early, lives in its own namespace and would not be
> affected by changes in the main-namespace. But this daemon does not have
> a big priority...

well, it would solve a bunch of issues at once, but
it would probably run into the same problems once it 
is restarted, no?

maybe we should improve the 'cleanup' of the guest
namespace somehow, but I have absolutely no idea what
your requirements in this regard are ...

best,
Herbert

PS: guess I would appreciate some scheduled discussions
via IRC or if you insist, we can do it via email ...

> Enrico

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Re: [Vserver] Re: Conversion script for legacy config files to new config directory

2005-08-18 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:20:20AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 09:33:58AM +0200, Dennis Roos wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 08:21 +0200, Dirk Ruediger wrote:
> > > Hi Dennis,
> > > 
> > > Dennis Roos wrote (some time ago):
> > > > 
> > > > After half an hour of scripting I came up with a somewhat working
> > > > conversion script for Linux-VServer configs to the new directory
> > > > configuration layout.
> > > > 
> > > > It has been created for my specific environment, but I hope it helps
> > > > someone ;)
> > > 
> > > I used your vscfg-conf.sh for my migration to the new config layout.
> > > Thanks for providing this!
> > No problem... Glad to have returned something useful for the community ;)
> > 
> > > I adopted it and corrected the handling of multiple network devices.
> > > Also I set the flag /apps/init/mark to "default" so that the vserver is
> > > started via /etc/init.d/vserver-default (under debain at least ;-))
> > > So I want to share these changes too.
> > It might be an idea to add the code to the wiki somewhere? If no one
> > objects to this I can do this later today.
> 
> Or even better. Add it to util-vserver package.

excellent idea, second that ...

best,
Herbert

> Regards,
> 
> // Ola
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Re: [Vserver] Re: util-vserver 0.30.208 debs?

2005-08-18 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello

Just uploaded 208 debs for Debian. Please test.

Regards,

// Ola

On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:32:31AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Hello
> 
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 01:47:49PM +0200, Harald Kapper wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:19:45 + (UTC), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >> The debian maintainer is working on .208 debs now:
> > >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=321659
> > >
> > >It was really trivial (<5 min) to take the 207 and make 208 debs.  I've
> > >posted my source packages at http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/vs/ for
> > >anyone that wants them.
> > >
> > >They include fix1.
> > 
> > hi
> > thanks for the dsc - one odd thing came up through building - it claimed 
> > (though
> > installed) that beecrypt couldn't be found and this would not allow to 
> > vhashify
> > - actually I'm quite clueless what this finally means, but maybe someone 
> > here
> > can enlighten me.
> 
> Note that if you use beecrypt2 it will work. That library is not
> included in Debian sid so I can not use it.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> // Ola
> 
> > regards
> > Harald Kapper, icq# 36178328 http://kapper.net
> > software-development and loeblichgasse   6
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RE: [Vserver] 13thfloor.at down?

2005-08-18 Thread Gaz Wilson
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, martin rueegg [metaworx rueegg] wrote:

> > Is the 13thfloor website down?  Having trouble accessing it
> > from the UK, get a timeout - anyone else seeing this?
>
> have the same from germany (isp: arcor.de)
>
> but not from switzerland (isp: easynet.ch)
>

Back now - looks like one of the transit providers had a routing loop.

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RE: [Vserver] 13thfloor.at down?

2005-08-18 Thread martin rueegg [metaworx rueegg]
> Is the 13thfloor website down?  Having trouble accessing it 
> from the UK, get a timeout - anyone else seeing this?

have the same from germany (isp: arcor.de)

but not from switzerland (isp: easynet.ch)

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[Vserver] 13thfloor.at down?

2005-08-18 Thread Gaz Wilson

Is the 13thfloor website down?  Having trouble accessing it from the UK,
get a timeout - anyone else seeing this?

Thanks

Gaz


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RE: [Vserver] vserver + vlans

2005-08-18 Thread Dennis Roos
On Thu, 2005-08-18 at 09:58 +0200, metaworx lists wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:01:47AM +0200, Matvey Gladkikh wrote:
> > > I have small question. Can vserver guests be bind to vlan 
> > > interfaces eg. bond0.10 not phisical eth0 and eth1?
> > 
> > Yes
> 
> > I have not tested on recent versions so though.
> 
> we are running vlans on top of a bridged device and bind guests to this
> interfaces and everything seems to work as expected so far.
> 
> what we have not yet fully tested, whether different guests in different
> vlans can communicate to each other while running on the same host (Kernel).
> I suppose thy can, but this does normaly not match the intention sice you
> place them in different vlans ;-)
They probably can communicate with eachother, they all share the same
routing table as they are in the same box :)

> the reason is that it is the same kernal and therefore the packages do not
> pass the vlan part of the device driver. a solution could be iptables, the
> way we will try to separate the vservers.
Try iproute2 (I got this originally from the wiki, but I don't have the link 
handy at the moment).

Create a new routing table (I use the vlan ID as table ID, but anything
goes as long as it's less than 255 (AFAIK) )

The versions in use with my setup are:# vserver-info
Versions:
   Kernel: 2.6.11.6-grsec-vs1.9.5
   VS-API: 0x00010025
 util-vserver: 0.30.207; May 18 2005, 17:47:45


Here's an example:
${MYNET} == Server's network address
${SVRPFX} == Server's network prefix (CIDR notation)
${MYVLAN} == Vlan ID
${VLAN} == Vlan ID < 255

echo "10VLAN10" > /etc/iproute2/rt_tables

ip rule add from ${MYNET}/${SVRPFX} table ${VLAN}
ip route add ${MYNET}/${SVRPFX} dev eth1.${MYVLAN} table ${VLAN}
ip route add default via ${MYGW} dev eth1.${MYVLAN} table ${VLAN}  

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RE: [Vserver] vserver + vlans

2005-08-18 Thread metaworx lists
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:01:47AM +0200, Matvey Gladkikh wrote:
> > I have small question. Can vserver guests be bind to vlan 
> > interfaces eg. bond0.10 not phisical eth0 and eth1?
> 
> Yes

> I have not tested on recent versions so though.

we are running vlans on top of a bridged device and bind guests to this
interfaces and everything seems to work as expected so far.

what we have not yet fully tested, whether different guests in different
vlans can communicate to each other while running on the same host (Kernel).
I suppose thy can, but this does normaly not match the intention sice you
place them in different vlans ;-)

the reason is that it is the same kernal and therefore the packages do not
pass the vlan part of the device driver. a solution could be iptables, the
way we will try to separate the vservers.

regards,
martin.

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