Re: [Vserver] Re: typo in mtab ?

2006-01-22 Thread Joep Gommers
You are free to update linux-vserver.org FAQ's, just click the edit button.Thanks in advance,Cheers,J-On 1/22/06, 
zgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On 2006-01-22 17:10:35 +0200, zgrim wrote:
> Hello.>> We noticed [ what we thought is ] a typo in distrib/misc/mtab:>> /dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0>^^^>shoudn't this be 'v' as in vfs ? :)
>Ok, I found the answer, sorry for mailing in a rush,list archives and irc proved faster.A (for anyone asking): It is so to trick the quota tools.refs:[ 
http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg09133.html ][ http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200401/0232.html ]Maybe this one should make its way in the FAQ ?
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[Vserver] Re: typo in mtab ?

2006-01-22 Thread zgrim
On 2006-01-22 17:10:35 +0200, zgrim wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> We noticed [ what we thought is ] a typo in distrib/misc/mtab:
> 
> /dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0
>^^^
>shoudn't this be 'v' as in vfs ? :)
> 

Ok, I found the answer, sorry for mailing in a rush, 
list archives and irc proved faster.

A (for anyone asking): It is so to trick the quota tools.
refs:
[ http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver/msg09133.html ]
[ http://archives.linux-vserver.org/200401/0232.html ]

Maybe this one should make its way in the FAQ ?

Thanks for your time.
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[Vserver] typo in mtab ?

2006-01-22 Thread zgrim
Hello.

We noticed [ what we thought is ] a typo in distrib/misc/mtab:

/dev/hdv1 / ufs defaults 0 0
   ^^^
   shoudn't this be 'v' as in vfs ? :)

... or do you plan silent BSD world domination ? :))


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Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo

2006-01-22 Thread Benedikt Boehm
On Sunday 22 January 2006 15:46, Wilhelm Meier wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2006 12:38 schrieb Enrico Scholz:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes:
> > > I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to
> > > vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get:
> > >
> > > gs vservers # ln
> > > -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00
> > >
> > > gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify
> > > Can not determine packagemanagement style
> > > failed to determine configfiles
> >
> > Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not
> > have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which
> > will probably produce different checksums).
>
> Yes, but Gentoo has package-management - the portage system.
>
> > When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify
> > will still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve
> > timestamps. But because timestamps are used to check whether files are
> > identically resp. are going into the calculation of the hash value, you
> > will not gain very much with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo.
>
> You have to use binary packages, then you will gain the same amount as with
> other distributions. And you have to compile the things only once. This is
> o.k. since the compiler-flags won't change from Vserver to VServer. The
> only issue might be with the portage-use-flags.

well, if you want unification you probably use the same use flags among 
unified guests anyway...

>
> > Enrico
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Re: [Vserver] Logo contest

2006-01-22 Thread Georges Toth
I prefer these: 3, 20 (should have a capital "S")


> The webpage with all discussed logo's can be found here:
> http://www.virtualinfrastructure.nl/personal/vserver/index.htm
> If everybody could reply their preference and remarks to the mailinglist, i
> can count the replies. Maybe herbert should make the final decision?

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Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo

2006-01-22 Thread Wilhelm Meier
Am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2006 12:38 schrieb Enrico Scholz:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes:
> > I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to
> > vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get:
> >
> > gs vservers # ln
> > -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00
> >
> > gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify
> > Can not determine packagemanagement style
> > failed to determine configfiles
>
> Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not
> have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which
> will probably produce different checksums).

Yes, but Gentoo has package-management - the portage system. 

>
> When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify
> will still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve timestamps.
> But because timestamps are used to check whether files are identically
> resp. are going into the calculation of the hash value, you will not gain
> very much with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo.

You have to use binary packages, then you will gain the same amount as with 
other distributions. And you have to compile the things only once. This is 
o.k. since the compiler-flags won't change from Vserver to VServer. The only 
issue might be with the portage-use-flags.

>
>
>
> Enrico

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Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo

2006-01-22 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Sun January 22 2006 05:38, Enrico Scholz wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes:
> 
> > I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to 
> > vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get:
> >
> > gs vservers # ln 
> > -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00
> >
> > gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify
> > Can not determine packagemanagement style
> > failed to determine configfiles
> 
> Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not
> have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which
> will probably produce different checksums).
>
Gentoo does handle binary package management - do:

emerge --buildpkg whatever (you can set that option in your FEATURES)
the 'install' tools accept .tbz2 with a --usepkg option. 

The package is a 'tar --bzip2' with additional meta-data 
The process will preserve timestamps and etc as well as any tar --bzip2

Mike
 
> When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify will
> still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve timestamps. But
> because timestamps are used to check whether files are identically resp. are
> going into the calculation of the hash value, you will not gain very much
> with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo.
> 
> 
> 
> Enrico
> 
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Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo

2006-01-22 Thread Enrico Scholz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes:

> I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to 
> vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get:
>
> gs vservers # ln 
> -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00
>
> gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify
> Can not determine packagemanagement style
> failed to determine configfiles

Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not
have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which
will probably produce different checksums).

When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify will
still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve timestamps. But
because timestamps are used to check whether files are identically resp. are
going into the calculation of the hash value, you will not gain very much
with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo.



Enrico


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