[Vserver] UDP not working

2007-08-03 Thread Georges Toth
Hi,

I'm trying to run bind inside a vserver.
Port 53/tcp works perfectly, but the udp equivalent doesn't work.
When I do a tcpdump, I see the packets arriving, but no reply from the 
vserver.

I've tried running bind on the host, with the same IP, and it did work (to 
rule out netfilter misconfigurations).
Also adding various capabilities (NET_ADMIN, NET_RAW, ...) doesn't help.

The kernel version is 2.6.22.1 (including latest patch + utils).


Any idea what the problem might be ?


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Re: [Vserver] [Gentoo] baselayout-vserver is dead!

2006-11-04 Thread Georges Toth
On Friday 03 November 2006 18:00, Benedikt Böhm wrote:
 Just want to let you know that baselayout-vserver is dead now, since we got
 baselayout-1.13.0_alpha5 working within vservers.

Great work, thanks !! :-)


Will that eventually be merged into the main portage tree or will it remain in 
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Re: [Vserver] reiserfs user quotas

2006-09-06 Thread Georges Toth
On Thursday 07 September 2006 02:08, Chuck wrote:
 On Wednesday 06 September 2006 16:18, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 08:43:16AM -0400, Chuck wrote:
   we use reiserfs v3 in each guest.
  
   each guest is its own partition using lvm to solve guest server total
   quota
  
   is there a way to manage user disk quotas separately within each
   guest?
 
  yes, should work fine with the help of vroot
  (you need one device per guest)

 ok will look into this.. im not sure i was completely clear on our setup..
 each vserver has its own partition so its controlled by that for the server
 itself..

You have to use vroot, as Herbert mentioned

See this guide for in-detail instructions on how to use quotas in this 
situation:
http://www.5dollarwhitebox.org/wiki/index.php/Howtos_Linux-Vserver_With_LVM_And_Quotas


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Re: [Vserver] Startup Scripts (Related to: sys-apps/baselayout-vserver)

2006-07-02 Thread Georges Toth
 as far as I know, gentoo is the only distro which uses
 a 'special' init system, which does not work inside a
 virtual environment (well, without minor tweaks), IMHO
 that is not a deficiency in gentoo, only a missing
 (or better incomplete) 'implementation' of the gentoo
 init style

AFAIK the problem with gentoo init scripts is, that some of the scripts depend 
on other scripts like clock, ntp, net.eth0, etcwhich configure system 
level things.
As that is not possible / allowed inside a regular guest, they will fail, and 
as such the scripts depending on them as well.

That's why you have to use the baselayout-vserver, which includes emtpy 
scripts for those ones.

- init scripts get not only started if they are in a specific runlevel, but 
also if another script depends on them.
so that might be the reason why on gentoo you have to use other init scripts 
whereas on ubuntu etc, it works out of the box.

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Re: [Vserver] bind9 in vserver

2006-06-11 Thread Georges Toth
 I'd like to know what is the security problem with CAP_SYS_RESSOURCE ?
 Herbert said
 Currently the following Linux Capabilities are considered secure, if
 you add others to them, you will probably open some security hole.

 but what is the problem  with override resource limits, quota, reserved
 space on fs, ...? DOS on another vserver using the whole ressources ?

 what else ?

I'm sure some other people on this list can explain that a lot better than I 
can.
The great thing about vserver is besides the stuff you surely know, that it 
restricts access to the host system a lot.
So only basic stuff is allowed.

If you need quota...which is safe AFAIK, you have to add that capetc... 
(and use vroot).

The problem with that sys-ressource cap is IIRC that it gives too much access 
rights to the guest. Which in turn _may_ lead to a host take over ... correct 
me if I'm wrong..

The bind problem is that with the default installation, it tries to raise its 
caps on runtime. And that is bad, and by default disabled for a 
vserver-guest.

I run several name servers as guests, and have compiled bind with 
caps-disabled, and it works great.
So either use the dev version of vserver (as suggested) or recompile bind.


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Re: [Vserver] Re: IPV6 and VSERVER ?

2006-05-30 Thread Georges Toth
 I want to test Bruno's ipv6 patch, but where can I get the latest
 vserver-2. 1.1 patch for kernel-2.6.16.18?

 I've get kernel-2.6.16.18 from www.kernel.org, and
 patch-2.6.16.18-vs2.1.1rc21-ipv6a.diff from
 http://homepage.internet.lu/brunop/vserver/. But I can't get vs2.1.1 patch
 for kernel-2.6.16.18. I searched in
 http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/, but only get
 patch-2.6.16.17-vs2. 1.1-rc21.diff.

Just use patch-2.6.16.17-vs2. 1.1-rc21.diff

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Re: [Vserver] Backupninja and Vservers

2006-05-29 Thread Georges Toth
Hi Mark,

 Could anyone elaborate on the use of backupninja with vservers?

Haven't tried that one yet.

But have a look at:
rsnapshot   http://www.rsnapshot.org/
and
rdiff-backuphttp://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/

Both work very well.


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Re: [Vserver] Logo contest

2006-01-22 Thread Georges Toth
I prefer these: 3, 20 (should have a capital S)


 The webpage with all discussed logo's can be found here:
 http://www.virtualinfrastructure.nl/personal/vserver/index.htm
 If everybody could reply their preference and remarks to the mailinglist, i
 can count the replies. Maybe herbert should make the final decision?

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[Vserver] patch for linux-2.6.14.3

2005-12-07 Thread Georges Toth
Hi Bertl,

Could you please make a patch for linux-2.6.14.3 ?

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Re: [Vserver] patch for linux-2.6.14.3

2005-12-07 Thread Georges Toth
 *phew* traveled into the past and did a few releases
 so folks are happy again ... :)

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Re: [Vserver] simple disk quota -thoroughly confused

2005-10-11 Thread Georges Toth
 before i continue, i assume that quotas will work on reiserfs ? every
 system we have is reiser.

IIRC is does


 There are several documents about them for vservers but this one looks like
 it may be the most current?
 http://linux-vserver.org/Standard+non-shared+quota

That's the most recent one, yes.


 so in my case since we use udev. i could issue
 vrsetup /dev/vroot1 /dev/sda4  ?

yes


 what would i replace lvm or evm with? i am using neither.. i simply created
 one huge volume on sda4 which all the guests use.

Then that doc is not for you
Think about using lvm, it makes life so much easier :-)


 so there are a few questions out of all this... arbitrarily choose a
 vserverx block device? what to use in place of evm or lvm above?  then the
 instruction below..

The doc is only for the case where you have a seperate partition or lv for 
every guest


 -
 - inside the guest run:
 quotacheck -maugv
 -
 umm.. there is no quotacheck program or script inside the guest that i can
 find... what package is it included in?

quota pkg


 an alternative would be to create a fixed size (maybe 20g or 40g) file
 mounted via loopback creating a virtual disk for each of  the colos as
 their 'drive'..maybe that would be better? then they could never corrupt
 anything to do with our main disks...

Why don't you use lvm ?
Better and faster than loopback

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Re: [Vserver] simple disk quota -thoroughly confused

2005-10-11 Thread Georges Toth
 thing is with lvm if each guest gets its own logical volume, then why use
 quotas since that volume can be partitioned as it will anyway no?

exactly! :-)
no need to do some fancy magiclwm does it for you :-)
btw, LV's are resizeable...
per user quota may be easily implemented if you want/need to, with lvm.
on a shared partition this is currently not possible AFAIK


 i may be 
 talking out my xxx here since i have not even read about lvm yet. never
 bothered with it.. think ill read up on it a bit before i say or ask
 anything more so i dont look like a total stooge :D

Check this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/lvm2.xml

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Re: [Vserver] Problem with new utils ?

2005-06-06 Thread Georges Toth
i'm currently migrating my vservers to the new config-style.
the name of the vserver isn't displayed here neither, but i'm able to start 
stop them _with_ the name (as usual).
the vserver prog then says assuming legacy mode

i guess you didn't compile your tools with the legacy  api enabled...

On Monday 06 June 2005 15:05, Benoit des Ligneris wrote:
 A problem this time,

 When using the new tools (witvdirh the legacy method), the
 name of the vservers running on the system is empty and it is not
 possible to enter/stop/start/... them.  vserver-stat display the vservers,
 processes, etc. however, name is empty too.

 Has anyone already had this kind of problem ?

 We are using a 2.6.9-vs1.9.3 kernel which is a bit old but not that
 much.

 Because those are productions systems we would like the transition to
 be as smooth as possible :
 1) remove old utils
 2) install the new version : util-vserver-0.30.204
 3) use it ;-)

 If some additional steps are necessary, we would like to document/script
 them and maybe, provide an upgrade path for others.

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Re: [Vserver] [Arch] i686

2005-05-09 Thread Georges Toth
  Where do I find the test?  I'll run it for x86_64 for you.  I'm
  currently at 2.6.11.7-vs2.0-pre3.  I'll run it and then upgrade and run
  again.

 hey that would be great!

Kernel: 2.6.11.8-vs2.0-pre4
util-vserver:   0.30.207 (linked against glibc)
CPU:
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 31
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
stepping: 0
cpu MHz : 1005.172

Test-results:
Linux-VServer Test [V0.12] (C) 2003-2005 H.Poetzl
chcontext is working.
chbind is working.
Linux 2.6.11.8-vs2.0-pre4 x86_64/0.30.207/0.30.207 [Ea]
VCI:  0001:0025 236 0376
---
[000]# succeeded.
[001]# succeeded.
[011]# succeeded.
[031]# succeeded.
[101]# succeeded.
[102]# succeeded.
[201]# succeeded.
[202]# succeeded.

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Re: [Vserver] error compiling util-vserver on x86_64

2005-04-16 Thread Georges Toth
Hi Arjen,

 I'm playing around with vserver on x86_64 too and get the same error
 as you got. I was wondering if you or someone else found a solution
 yet? Have you tried the patch (on 13thfloor)? Please let me know if
 you got a fix.

I haven't had time yet to try out the patch. I had only tested with an 
unpatched dietlibc, which didn't work.


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Re: [Vserver] error compiling util-vserver on x86_64

2005-04-10 Thread Georges Toth
On Monday 11 April 2005 00:35, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:05:48AM +0200, Georges Toth wrote:
  kernel: 2.6.11.6
  patch: 1.9.5
  util-vserver: 0.30.205
  using: dietlibc-0.28
 
 
  Any idea ?

 yup .. get a new dietlibc, the right compiler and
 fixed tools, it should work then ;)

i'm using gcc-3.3.5
i'll try that patch..


 btw, looks like broken glibc/kernel headers to me ...

i doubt that...
it's a fresh gentoo install
using 2.6 headers, latest stable glibc
i don't see what could be broken... the setup is the same as on my non-64 
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Re: [Vserver] Linux-VServer Agenda ...

2005-02-20 Thread Georges Toth
Hi bertl,

sounds great to me, go for it! :-)

On Sunday 20 February 2005 02:03, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 Hi Community!

 yesterday evening I had the pleasure to meet with
 Serguei Beloussov. we had excellent Dinner at the
 'Schnitzelwirt' where we talked about - who would
 have guessed - different virtualization techniques
 and various commercial and non commercial products
 in this area ...

 he clearly pointed out that his company has some
 interest, that virtualization techniques - like the
 one linux-vserver uses - 'gain momentum' in the face
 of system emulators like VMware(tm) and partitioning
 approaches like Xen. he also told me that they are
 watching this project very closely and that, while
 it is small compared to their products, it's quite
 interesting ...

 after that we had some fun with Billards (Carambol)
 and right afterwards I was basically offered a job
 where I would be able to do some kernel development
 and get payed for doing so ...

 let me know what you think!

 TIA,
 Herbert


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Re: [Vserver] XFS on 2.4.28 problem to compile

2004-11-28 Thread Georges Toth
 btw, who else is using XFS with linux-vserver?
 (just curious)

i was, and would love to, if quota (inside vserver, every vserver on a 
separate partition) would work with xfs.
but IIRC, it doesn't.


ps: haven't had time yet to test vserver on 2.6, will try to do so in the next 
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Re: [Vserver] XFS on 2.4.28 problem to compile

2004-11-28 Thread Georges Toth
On Sunday 28 November 2004 17:09, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:03:03PM +0100, Georges Toth wrote:
   btw, who else is using XFS with linux-vserver?
   (just curious)
 
  i was, and would love to, if quota (inside vserver, every vserver on a
  separate partition) would work with xfs.
  but IIRC, it doesn't.

 should work fine .. at least I don't see why it shouldn't ...

hmm, ok.
i'm wondering then why i formated all the lvm partitions with ext3 :-)

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[Vserver] kprobes

2004-08-21 Thread Georges Toth
hi,

i saw this on lwn.net:
IBM developerWorks [0] shows how to use Kprobes to debug the Linux kernel. 
The benefits of using Kprobes are many. printk's can be inserted without 
rebuilding and rebooting the kernel. Processor registers can be logged and 
even modified for debugging -- without disruption to the system. Similarly, 
Linux kernel data structures can also be logged and even modified 
non-disruptively as well. You can even debug race conditions on SMP systems 
with Kprobes -- and save yourself the trouble of all that rebuilding and 
rebooting. You'll find kernel debugging is faster and easier than ever.


maybe that could be _real_ useful for the vserver project ? :-)


[0]: 
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-kprobes.html?ca=dgr-lnxw04Kprobe

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Re: [Vserver] Re: kprobes

2004-08-21 Thread Georges Toth
 I've been monitoring the kprobes project for some
 time now, and it really is interesting, especially
 as the code required for each arch is very small

  maybe that could be _real_ useful for the vserver project ? :-)

 yeah, it probably could, especially for hunting
 down nasty stuff on a real system ...

 do you have any specific kernel debugging case in
 mind here?

not directly... i just wanted to let you (and others) know about that project 
in case you don't already :-).
i haven't had time yet to fully check it out, but thought it might be useful 
for debugging various stuff.
(i.e. quota, limitations(cpu, mem), ...)

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Re: [Vserver] ebuild for alpha util-vserver 0.29.214

2004-07-28 Thread Georges Toth
hi,

could you please make a bugtracker entry on gentoo.org for that ebuild for it 
to be included in the portage tree ? :-)


On Wednesday 28 July 2004 18:44, Luc Dumaine wrote:
 hi,

 i hacked an ebuild for util-vserver 0.29.214.

 i can send it by email to the interested parties, or post it on the list
 if attachments are tolerated.

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Re: [Vserver] automated response

2004-07-26 Thread Georges Toth
euh?
what's wrong with the mailinglist?
(bunch of weird mails arrived today...)


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Re: [Vserver] Weekly News (001)

2004-06-27 Thread Georges Toth
hi herbert,

  - first experimental testing of Vserver Disk Limits for
the Linux 2.6 development releases

which means using quota (in a VS) in 2.6 could soon be reality, right?
if soGREAT :-)


  - Test Suite for Kernel/Tool testing

kool


 PS: I'd like to get some feedback if this kind of
 info is appreciated or not ...

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Re: [Vserver] Mailing List Future ...

2004-06-21 Thread Georges Toth
  1) do we want an open mailing list (like lkml)
 instead of a closed (subscription only) list

i don't care
i can live with the few spam i get from this list
(which doesn't mean i don't think it's annoying though :-) )


  2) do we want martin to maintain and further
 improve the existing solution

yes


  3) are we able to tolerate/ignore the unavoidable
 spam every day/week/month

(if it's unavoidable) yes


  4) do we want the mailing list to become a medium
 of communication and cooperation for linux
 vserver

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Re: [Vserver] Documentation

2004-05-27 Thread Georges Toth
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 I wrote some Gentoo specific howto's, not on the installation, but on
 the administration of vservers. It can be obtained from:
 http://vserveradmin.intouch.nl/

that link doesn't work for me...?

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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Development 1.9.0

2004-05-10 Thread Georges Toth
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hi,

so this means that v1.9.0 supports everything the stable release does + much 
more, but except vroot. is that correct ?

On Monday 10 May 2004 18:34, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 Hi Community!

 I'm happy to present the initial Linux 2.6 development
 version of Linux-VServer aka vs1.9.0.

 it can be downloaded as all-in-one patch and broken out
 devel patches (splits) from:

 http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/d_rel26/v1.9.0/

 there are many changes and new features in this release,
 especially a legacy mode which allows you to use older
 tools (back to vserver 0.27) to work.

 nevertheless development tools are required to unleash
 the full power. a feature overview can be found at:

 http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=Release+FAQ

 documentation and examples will follow shortly.
 please test this version and report any issues (e.g.
 with the template provided at:
 http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/BugTemplate-01.txt)

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Re: [Vserver] 1.26 includes quota patch?

2004-03-28 Thread Georges Toth
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do those quota patches work for xfs as well?

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Re: [Vserver] [Release] Context Quota Disk Limits q0.13

2004-02-11 Thread Georges Toth
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2004 15:28 schrieb Herbert Poetzl:
 if there is demand, a release for the stable
 branch will follow (just let me know)

 enjoy,
 Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] At the Eve of this Year ...

2003-12-31 Thread Georges Toth
I too, would like to thank Herbert for his great work
and, Enrico and Jack, and all the other people involved in this project.
Let's see what next year brings... :-)

Have a great new year, and c ya all in 2004, yup :-)!!


On Wednesday 31 December 2003 15:27, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
 Per Aspera Ad Astra!

 First I would like to thank everyone from the bottom
 of my heart who contributed to Linux-VServer development.
 We value every aid we get in striving for our ultimate
 goal, to provide the best Virtual Private Server solution
 for free (as in speech and beer ;)

 The future looks bright, and I'm confident, that the next
 year will be an interesting one. Well, at least the last
 quarter of this year was interesting for me ... ;)


 A Three Month Retrospective
 (or This Year for Linux-VServer)

 At the end of September after maintaining and rediffing
 Vserver patches for over a year, I decided to take over
 the leadership of Linux-VServer.

 A month later, Jack had returned and officially handed
 over project leadership to me, the first 'brand new'
 Linux-Vserver release was done on the 1st of November.

 Since then, we had four (4) stable releases, and nine
 (9) development release, and Linux-Vserver was ported
 to eleven (11) different architectures, and three non
 mainline kernels.

 Last but not least the multitude of 'new' and 'improved'
 userspace tools and scripts, aiding in vserver creation,
 maintenance and testing.

 Maybe Linux-VServer development did happen a little too
 fast, or maybe the community just wasn't used to this
 kind of 'rapid evolution', anyway I think it was very
 beneficial for all who joined and controlled the game.


 And the Future?

 First I hope that ALL community members, especially those
 who are still paralyzed by the high release frequency,
 may speak up, and let us all know, what direction they
 would like best, what path we shall take in the future.

 This doesn't mean that I have no plans for Linux-VServer,
 this just means, that I would like to collect your ideas
 and desires to lay a path which suits the community most.

 Second, I would like to integrate commercially interested
 groups of the vserver community (the business people ;)
 more deeply into the development process, and as a start,
 I would like to form a platform, where hosting providers
 can deposit, discuss and share their requirements, issues
 and solutions regarding Linux-VServer in an appropriate
 way they consider useful.

 And of course, development, development and development ...


 I honestly hope, that You enjoyed the journey as much
 I did, and that you will continue accompany me ...

 thanks for this year,
 and good luck for the next,
 Herbert


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[Vserver] LTP

2003-12-30 Thread Georges Toth
Herbert,

maybe this could be useful for testing new vserver patches?
http://ltp.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [Vserver] first stage of Gentoo ebuilds completed

2003-11-20 Thread Georges Toth
 I think, for now, it would be sufficient, to provide
 and url, where I can download the patches, gentoo
 uses ontop of the vanilla kernel ...

i'm a gentoo person :-)
first of all, great work chip !!!
i'm using gentoo on all of my servers as well as vservers... :-)

herbert, there is no gentoo kernel like there is a i.e. RH-kernel,
there are many kernels you can choose of.
here's the list of currently available kernels under gentoo:

list
aa-sources   hppa-headers ppc-headers
ac-sources   hppa-sources ppc-sources
alpha-sourceshppa-sources-dev ppc-sources-benh
arm-headers  ia64-sources ppc-sources-crypto
arm-sources  ksymoops ppc-sources-dev
ck-sources   linux-headersredhat-sources
compaq-sources   mips-headers rsbac-sources
development-sources  mips-prepatch-sourcesselinux-sources
gaming-sources   mips-sources sparc-sources
genkernelmjc-sources  timestamp.x
gentoo-dev-sources   mm-sources   usermode-sources
gentoo-sources   mosix-sourcesvanilla-prepatch-sources
gentoo-test-sources  openmosix-sourcesvanilla-sources
grsec-sourcespfeifer-sources  win4lin-sources
gs-sources   planet-ccrma-sources wolk-sources
hardened-sources ppc-development-sources  xfs-sources
/list

if i understood that correctly, chip wants to make a vanilla+vserver ebuild 
(package)...?
so there are no strange patches already applied by gentoo which cause 
conflicts or such...


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Re: [Vserver] first stage of Gentoo ebuilds completed

2003-11-20 Thread Georges Toth
  herbert, there is no gentoo kernel like there is a i.e. RH-kernel,
  there are many kernels you can choose of.
  here's the list of currently available kernels under gentoo:

 hmm, and what is in the gentoo-sources?

:-D waht i meant is, there is no single kernel like on suse mandr rh 
etc  
there are many including vanilla etc
gentoo-sources is the latest considered stable kernel + some patches and 
fixes etc

  if i understood that correctly, chip wants to make a vanilla+vserver
  ebuild (package)...?
  so there are no strange patches already applied by gentoo which cause
  conflicts or such...

 okay, so if I understand that right, it would make sense
 to have two? vserver-sources kernels, one stable and the
 other 'experimental' which actually is devel+ all the
 other nice stuff like quota, disk-limits, memory-limits
 O(1) scheduler and rmap15k ... right?

actually one
you create ebuilds for all version of vserver including the experiemental 
stuff. the devel ebuilds get masked.
so people who want to have a stable system install the stable ebuilds, others 
install the devel ebuilds.

(ebuilds are stored in a folder, in the portage tree i.e. vserver-sources)

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