Re: [Vserver] CPAN and sys$command (gentoo specific prob???)
On Saturday 24 September 2005 01:32 am, Vaughn Skinner wrote: > Did you look at lsattr or fuser output for the file? > > Vaughn honestly no. i have so much causing me grief at this moment that i did not bother to take time on it. i just wiped the /vservers partition clean and reinstalled.. since this was a template install it was the first on the partition. > > On Friday 23 September 2005 20:25, Chuck wrote: > > ok i am firmly convinced never to touch cpan in guests. ever. > > it not only blows up every time as mentioned in earlier messages but it > > then proceeds to leave a file in the root directory of the guest that is > > unremovably linked to /sys. > > > > i spent hours searching google and the gentoo support forums on the cpan > > error about terminal not supporting addhistory.. tons of entries and not > > one solution. so the heck with it. any additions to cpan will be done > > manually via packages. > > > > when i try to remove the file cpan leaves when it exits with the no history > > support, it says it is a directory.. here is the ls on it > > > > -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 23 Sep 23 20:40 sys$command > > > > looks like a normal file to me.. > > > > so since this is experimental, i used rmdir on it. > > > > /sys vanished and it stayed in the directory listing. dang thing is > > permanent. operations on this file give no unexpected error messages but > > everything i do to that file affects only /sys > > > > since im the only one to ever see the guests in this machine, im leaving it > > alone unless it will present some kind of problem later on. > > > > i dont need it for this machine, but i must solve this cpan problem for the > > next machine as there will be guests run by other admins that are cpan and > > perl crazy. i think their breakfast bowls have perl /cpan logos on them! > > > > before i tackle cpan though i must study iproute2 and get the 3rd nic to > > work on a 3rd network in this machine (tomorrow i hope). > > > > Bertl hinted possibly something wrong in the paths configurations so when i > > go to cpan debugging readline is the first place im looking for that line > > number and go from there. > > > > Hollow if you are reading this, with the stage3-latest on your site, do you > > have any perl cpan problems? remember i only use remote terminals via ssh > > into the machines. > ___ > Vserver mailing list > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > -- Chuck "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] CPAN and sys$command (gentoo specific prob???)
Did you look at lsattr or fuser output for the file? Vaughn On Friday 23 September 2005 20:25, Chuck wrote: > ok i am firmly convinced never to touch cpan in guests. ever. > it not only blows up every time as mentioned in earlier messages but it > then proceeds to leave a file in the root directory of the guest that is > unremovably linked to /sys. > > i spent hours searching google and the gentoo support forums on the cpan > error about terminal not supporting addhistory.. tons of entries and not > one solution. so the heck with it. any additions to cpan will be done > manually via packages. > > when i try to remove the file cpan leaves when it exits with the no history > support, it says it is a directory.. here is the ls on it > > -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 23 Sep 23 20:40 sys$command > > looks like a normal file to me.. > > so since this is experimental, i used rmdir on it. > > /sys vanished and it stayed in the directory listing. dang thing is > permanent. operations on this file give no unexpected error messages but > everything i do to that file affects only /sys > > since im the only one to ever see the guests in this machine, im leaving it > alone unless it will present some kind of problem later on. > > i dont need it for this machine, but i must solve this cpan problem for the > next machine as there will be guests run by other admins that are cpan and > perl crazy. i think their breakfast bowls have perl /cpan logos on them! > > before i tackle cpan though i must study iproute2 and get the 3rd nic to > work on a 3rd network in this machine (tomorrow i hope). > > Bertl hinted possibly something wrong in the paths configurations so when i > go to cpan debugging readline is the first place im looking for that line > number and go from there. > > Hollow if you are reading this, with the stage3-latest on your site, do you > have any perl cpan problems? remember i only use remote terminals via ssh > into the machines. ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] CPAN and sys$command (gentoo specific prob???)
On Saturday 24 September 2005 07:59 am, Tom Laermans wrote: > On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 05:02 -0400, Chuck wrote: > > > yeah.. heh took me 2 tries before i remembered about the esacpe.. thing is it > > says the file is a directory when i try rm.. > > If you don't escape, you're trying to "rm sys" cause I assume the > command variable would be empty.. which would lead to that problem if > you are in / while doing it... > > > im just going to make another template since this was a minimal insall. this > > time when i ran perl cpan config i was smart enough not to do it after > > spending hours installing packages :) > > I have run perl cpan shell many times inside a vserver host without any > problems.. > i figured it should run... there has to be something inherently wrong somewhere in the base install package then. something to do with terminal definitions or paths im not sure which as i have not looked at the line of the error in readline.. once i figure out rproute2 so i can put mutiple public internet connections from different providers on one box with multiple nics and multiple networks, then i can go back to this cpan problem. > Tom > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > -- Chuck "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] CPAN and sys$command (gentoo specific prob???)
On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 05:02 -0400, Chuck wrote: > yeah.. heh took me 2 tries before i remembered about the esacpe.. thing is > it > says the file is a directory when i try rm.. If you don't escape, you're trying to "rm sys" cause I assume the command variable would be empty.. which would lead to that problem if you are in / while doing it... > im just going to make another template since this was a minimal insall. this > time when i ran perl cpan config i was smart enough not to do it after > spending hours installing packages :) I have run perl cpan shell many times inside a vserver host without any problems.. Tom ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] CPAN and sys$command (gentoo specific prob???)
On Saturday 24 September 2005 03:32 am, Tom Laermans wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 23:25 -0400, Chuck wrote: > > > when i try to remove the file cpan leaves when it exits with the no history > > support, it says it is a directory.. here is the ls on it > > > > -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 23 Sep 23 20:40 sys$command > > > > looks like a normal file to me.. > > > > so since this is experimental, i used rmdir on it. > > > > /sys vanished and it stayed in the directory listing. > > Maybe a silly question, but you _are_ escaping the $, right? > rmdir won't work on a file anyway - rm sys\$command is what you ran? yeah.. heh took me 2 tries before i remembered about the esacpe.. thing is it says the file is a directory when i try rm.. im just going to make another template since this was a minimal insall. this time when i ran perl cpan config i was smart enough not to do it after spending hours installing packages :) > > Tom > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > -- Chuck "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] CPAN and sys$command (gentoo specific prob???)
Hi, On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 23:25 -0400, Chuck wrote: > when i try to remove the file cpan leaves when it exits with the no history > support, it says it is a directory.. here is the ls on it > > -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 23 Sep 23 20:40 sys$command > > looks like a normal file to me.. > > so since this is experimental, i used rmdir on it. > > /sys vanished and it stayed in the directory listing. Maybe a silly question, but you _are_ escaping the $, right? rmdir won't work on a file anyway - rm sys\$command is what you ran? Tom ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] CPAN and sys$command (gentoo specific prob???)
ok i am firmly convinced never to touch cpan in guests. ever. it not only blows up every time as mentioned in earlier messages but it then proceeds to leave a file in the root directory of the guest that is unremovably linked to /sys. i spent hours searching google and the gentoo support forums on the cpan error about terminal not supporting addhistory.. tons of entries and not one solution. so the heck with it. any additions to cpan will be done manually via packages. when i try to remove the file cpan leaves when it exits with the no history support, it says it is a directory.. here is the ls on it -rw-r--r-- 2 root root 23 Sep 23 20:40 sys$command looks like a normal file to me.. so since this is experimental, i used rmdir on it. /sys vanished and it stayed in the directory listing. dang thing is permanent. operations on this file give no unexpected error messages but everything i do to that file affects only /sys since im the only one to ever see the guests in this machine, im leaving it alone unless it will present some kind of problem later on. i dont need it for this machine, but i must solve this cpan problem for the next machine as there will be guests run by other admins that are cpan and perl crazy. i think their breakfast bowls have perl /cpan logos on them! before i tackle cpan though i must study iproute2 and get the 3rd nic to work on a 3rd network in this machine (tomorrow i hope). Bertl hinted possibly something wrong in the paths configurations so when i go to cpan debugging readline is the first place im looking for that line number and go from there. Hollow if you are reading this, with the stage3-latest on your site, do you have any perl cpan problems? remember i only use remote terminals via ssh into the machines. -- Chuck "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver