Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 01:14 am, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:59:53AM -0400, Chuck wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 September 2005 12:29 am, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > > > > > I added it to the /vservers mount statement in fstab and it worked > > > > perfectly! > > > > > > good to hear! > > > > > > > > > also the kernel has some extended reiserfs options which are > > > > > > unchecked at this time as I have never known a need for them. > > > > > > Should they be enabled as well? > > > > > > > > > > you probably want CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y but > > > > > I'm not sure if this is required ... > > > > > > > > Guess it cannot hurt to enable it anyway for safety. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > you're welcome! > > > > > > > now i just hope vservers live up to my expectations.. I have been > > > > given the task of finding a way to consolidate which means looking > > > > at virtualizing/partitioning to cut the number of servers down. > > > > What I am hoping for is enough performance to be able to reduce 39 > > > > servers to just 8 or 9 hosts.. we are a fairly busy isp so some of > > > > the servers are hit pretty hard.. > > > > > > well, up to 200 guest for a dual CPU Xeon system were > > > reported working, although I would not suggest to go > > > that hight, especially if you expect higher load ... > > > > > > > the only other problem I fear I will run into is in one host there > > > > will hve to be at least 4 nics since the servers are on various > > > > vlans and each subnet has its assigned switch port. > > > > > > well, 4 nics with GB can be rarely satisfied with PC > > > (and especially 32bit) arch ... if you think about > > > several 100Mbit interfaces, consider using vlans instead > > > > even if all the vservers on a single host were in the same network > > segment, there would still have to be 2 nics due to eth1 being the > > private admin network and also the one that the servers use to > > communicate to each other privately for nfs or remote logging. > > well, this could also be done via vlans, but 2 NICs > are fine, no? > after getting my head more around virtual server concepts, the private network only needs to be addressed in each host. the necessary communications can be done host to host easily enough since it has physical access to all vservers for backup. then i sat down and listed every server we run by network segment and discovered that a majority of them can use a single nic.. for example there are 10 severs now on the same segment. those could be put into one or two hosts since most of them are low usage machines. > > > > to complicate matters even more, several of the vservers will have > > > > to support a few hundred ip addresses each (email and web for > > > > domains with dedicated ip addresses). > > > > > > the current limit is at 16 IPs for each guest, but it > > > can be raised (easily) but this comes with a drawback > > > to the overall performance ... > > > > > > > > you might want to check if it isn't possible to break > > > the hosted IPs down into smaller chunks, and take e.g. > > > 10 guests for 16 IPs each (or maybe 5 with 32) > > > > hmmm... wonder how much of a hit in performance. it is impossible to > > separate them as the large chunks reside on machines with commercially > > licensed and paid for software which means we cannot duplicate these > > hosts to spread the load. it is all or nothing. > > the performance hit is basically a linear O(N) search > for each connection/request which is not terribly > expensive with 4 or 8 IPs but might have some impact > with 128 or 256 IPs ... > we want to get rid of the webserver management software we use as it is hard to impossible to set up without their support people doing it, is very expensive, and has some ludicrous requirements that have driven me insane trying to maintain security (plesk).. and of course we had no clue about these things until we bought into it. however we have not found a suitable substitute yet. if we can get around the licensing issue if there is one we would more than like to separate the quantity of hosted sites per box into smaller chunks :) the requirement for multiple nics comes in in only a few instances where we have name servers on the same vlan.. one is on 32 net and one is on 33 net which is one /23 vlan. to get around the multiple nics in this situatio all of those machines would have to be in one host to be able to use a single nic. having 2 public name servers one one physical machine can lead to trouble if there is a hardware failure i personally am for killing the vlan concept completely as it has caused nothing but headaches for me due to restrictions and I don't believe an isp has any need for such things except one or two network segments to isolate customer colo machines from the rest of our network. but... the boss paid some contracted etwork engineer mucho $$$ to set this up and he would not
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:59:53AM -0400, Chuck wrote: > On Wednesday 14 September 2005 12:29 am, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > > > I added it to the /vservers mount statement in fstab and it worked > > > perfectly! > > > > good to hear! > > > > > > > also the kernel has some extended reiserfs options which are > > > > > unchecked at this time as I have never known a need for them. > > > > > Should they be enabled as well? > > > > > > > > you probably want CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y but > > > > I'm not sure if this is required ... > > > > > > Guess it cannot hurt to enable it anyway for safety. > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > you're welcome! > > > > > now i just hope vservers live up to my expectations.. I have been > > > given the task of finding a way to consolidate which means looking > > > at virtualizing/partitioning to cut the number of servers down. > > > What I am hoping for is enough performance to be able to reduce 39 > > > servers to just 8 or 9 hosts.. we are a fairly busy isp so some of > > > the servers are hit pretty hard.. > > > > well, up to 200 guest for a dual CPU Xeon system were > > reported working, although I would not suggest to go > > that hight, especially if you expect higher load ... > > > > > the only other problem I fear I will run into is in one host there > > > will hve to be at least 4 nics since the servers are on various > > > vlans and each subnet has its assigned switch port. > > > > well, 4 nics with GB can be rarely satisfied with PC > > (and especially 32bit) arch ... if you think about > > several 100Mbit interfaces, consider using vlans instead > > even if all the vservers on a single host were in the same network > segment, there would still have to be 2 nics due to eth1 being the > private admin network and also the one that the servers use to > communicate to each other privately for nfs or remote logging. well, this could also be done via vlans, but 2 NICs are fine, no? > > > to complicate matters even more, several of the vservers will have > > > to support a few hundred ip addresses each (email and web for > > > domains with dedicated ip addresses). > > > > the current limit is at 16 IPs for each guest, but it > > can be raised (easily) but this comes with a drawback > > to the overall performance ... > > > > > you might want to check if it isn't possible to break > > the hosted IPs down into smaller chunks, and take e.g. > > 10 guests for 16 IPs each (or maybe 5 with 32) > > hmmm... wonder how much of a hit in performance. it is impossible to > separate them as the large chunks reside on machines with commercially > licensed and paid for software which means we cannot duplicate these > hosts to spread the load. it is all or nothing. the performance hit is basically a linear O(N) search for each connection/request which is not terribly expensive with 4 or 8 IPs but might have some impact with 128 or 256 IPs ... > I was anticipating future growth with those numbers. In real numbers > today, the email machine has i think around 97 ip addresses and the > web machine has in the neighborhood of 124 addresses with the rest of > the sites using name space off the main machine ip. most services can be satisfied with a single IP (e.g. mail, ftp, web) only unfortunate ones require a separate ip (ssl) > all the mail ips are on the same network segment and all the web are > also on their own segment.. each network segment is its own vlan > within the switching system and each machine has its own assigned > switch port. > since the vlans are physical separations, it would not be possible to > combine them onto one nic.. interesting, I always considered virtual lans (vlans) virtual ones not physical ones :) > this is why there would have to be a single nic for each vserver > guest. we have several quad-nic cards that we could use. we had 2 of > those for 8 nics on our news server once. IMHO a dual GB nic and a proper switch (which is vlan aware) would be a much better solution ... but YMMV > not only that but the load would be horrendous using a single nic > for multiple vservers.. we are already beyond the limits of 100mbit > bandwidth on the web server and the email server is pushing about > 50mbit continuous at this time. our entire network is gigabit even > into the border routers. and this is exactly where vlans on a GB interface would improve throughput while reducing the load > if i can't do this, then my only other choice is to leave those 2 as > dedicated servers which i really don't want to do. the rest of the > machines have less than 10 ip addresses in each of their nics. many > of these smaller servers are sharing the same net segment so packing > those into the same host would allow them to share a single nic or two > without trouble. everything is possible ... I'm just suggesting better solutions, so you get a picture ... > its just the 2 big servers that has my ulcers churning. the boss wants > them all consolidated. well,
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 12:29 am, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > > > I added it to the /vservers mount statement in fstab and it worked > > perfectly! > > good to hear! > > > > > also the kernel has some extended reiserfs options which are > > > > unchecked at this time as I have never known a need for them. > > > > Should they be enabled as well? > > > > > > you probably want CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y but > > > I'm not sure if this is required ... > > > > Guess it cannot hurt to enable it anyway for safety. > > > > Thank you! > > you're welcome! > > > now i just hope vservers live up to my expectations.. I have been > > given the task of finding a way to consolidate which means looking at > > virtualizing/partitioning to cut the number of servers down. What I am > > hoping for is enough performance to be able to reduce 39 servers to > > just 8 or 9 hosts.. we are a fairly busy isp so some of the servers > > are hit pretty hard.. > > well, up to 200 guest for a dual CPU Xeon system were > reported working, although I would not suggest to go > that hight, especially if you expect higher load ... > > > the only other problem I fear I will run into is in one host there > > will hve to be at least 4 nics since the servers are on various > > vlans and each subnet has its assigned switch port. > > well, 4 nics with GB can be rarely satisfied with PC > (and especially 32bit) arch ... if you think about > several 100Mbit interfaces, consider using vlans instead > even if all the vservers on a single host were in the same network segment, there would still have to be 2 nics due to eth1 being the private admin network and also the one that the servers use to communicate to each other privately for nfs or remote logging. > > to complicate matters even more, several of the vservers will have to > > support a few hundred ip addresses each (email and web for domains > > with dedicated ip addresses). > > the current limit is at 16 IPs for each guest, but it > can be raised (easily) but this comes with a drawback > to the overall performance ... > > you might want to check if it isn't possible to break > the hosted IPs down into smaller chunks, and take e.g. > 10 guests for 16 IPs each (or maybe 5 with 32) hmmm... wonder how much of a hit in performance. it is impossible to separate them as the large chunks reside on machines with commercially licensed and paid for software which means we cannot duplicate these hosts to spread the load. it is all or nothing. I was anticipating future growth with those numbers. In real numbers today, the email machine has i think around 97 ip addresses and the web machine has in the neighborhood of 124 addresses with the rest of the sites using name space off the main machine ip. all the mail ips are on the same network segment and all the web are also on their own segment.. each network segment is its own vlan within the switching system and each machine has its own assigned switch port. since the vlans are physical separations, it would not be possible to combine them onto one nic.. this is why there would have to be a single nic for each vserver guest. we have several quad-nic cards that we could use. we had 2 of those for 8 nics on our news server once. not only that but the load would be horrendous using a single nic for multiple vservers.. we are already beyond the limits of 100mbit bandwidth on the web server and the email server is pushing about 50mbit continuous at this time. our entire network is gigabit even into the border routers. if i can't do this, then my only other choice is to leave those 2 as dedicated servers which i really don't want to do. the rest of the machines have less than 10 ip addresses in each of their nics. many of these smaller servers are sharing the same net segment so packing those into the same host would allow them to share a single nic or two without trouble. its just the 2 big servers that has my ulcers churning. the boss wants them all consolidated. > > > I only hope this can do it as i have found nothing else suitable other > > than the ibm partitioned minis or blades.($$$).. I believe UML has > > entirely too much overhead for our needs. > > I'm pretty sure it will ... but keep us updated > > best, > Herbert > > > > > > best, > > > Herbert > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > best, > > > > > Herbert > > > > > > > > > > > > > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > > > > > > > > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > > > > > > > > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > > > > > > > > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > > > > > > > > the difference > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > Herbert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:10:29AM -0400, Chuck wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:58 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:49:56PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > > > On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:45 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > > > > > > > using reiserfs v3 > > > > > > > > ah, yes, reiser v3 requires the 'attrs' mount option > > > > to support xattrs (those you can set with chattr), and > > > > some of those flags are used for the barrier and the > > > > unification, so you have to add that to the mount options > > > > > > > > > > do i add that only to the fstab entryt for the /vservers mount point > > > or do I add that to the system / as well? > > > > should be sufficient for the /vservers partition > > I added it to the /vservers mount statement in fstab and it worked > perfectly! good to hear! > > > also the kernel has some extended reiserfs options which are > > > unchecked at this time as I have never known a need for them. > > > Should they be enabled as well? > > > > you probably want CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y but > > I'm not sure if this is required ... > > Guess it cannot hurt to enable it anyway for safety. > > Thank you! you're welcome! > now i just hope vservers live up to my expectations.. I have been > given the task of finding a way to consolidate which means looking at > virtualizing/partitioning to cut the number of servers down. What I am > hoping for is enough performance to be able to reduce 39 servers to > just 8 or 9 hosts.. we are a fairly busy isp so some of the servers > are hit pretty hard.. well, up to 200 guest for a dual CPU Xeon system were reported working, although I would not suggest to go that hight, especially if you expect higher load ... > the only other problem I fear I will run into is in one host there > will hve to be at least 4 nics since the servers are on various > vlans and each subnet has its assigned switch port. well, 4 nics with GB can be rarely satisfied with PC (and especially 32bit) arch ... if you think about several 100Mbit interfaces, consider using vlans instead > to complicate matters even more, several of the vservers will have to > support a few hundred ip addresses each (email and web for domains > with dedicated ip addresses). the current limit is at 16 IPs for each guest, but it can be raised (easily) but this comes with a drawback to the overall performance ... you might want to check if it isn't possible to break the hosted IPs down into smaller chunks, and take e.g. 10 guests for 16 IPs each (or maybe 5 with 32) > I only hope this can do it as i have found nothing else suitable other > than the ibm partitioned minis or blades.($$$).. I believe UML has > entirely too much overhead for our needs. I'm pretty sure it will ... but keep us updated best, Herbert > > > best, > > Herbert > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > best, > > > > Herbert > > > > > > > > > > > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > > > > > > > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > > > > > > > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > > > > > > > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > > > > > > > the difference > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Herbert > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > Vserver mailing list > > > > > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > > > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > > > > > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > > > > > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > > > > > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > > > > > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > Vserver mailing list > > > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > > > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > > > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > > > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > > > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Vserver mailing list > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > -- > > Chuck > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or t
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:58 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:49:56PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:45 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > > > > > using reiserfs v3 > > > > > > ah, yes, reiser v3 requires the 'attrs' mount option > > > to support xattrs (those you can set with chattr), and > > > some of those flags are used for the barrier and the > > > unification, so you have to add that to the mount options > > > > > > > do i add that only to the fstab entryt for the /vservers mount point > > or do I add that to the system / as well? > > should be sufficient for the /vservers partition I added it to the /vservers mount statement in fstab and it worked perfectly! > > > also the kernel has some extended reiserfs options which are unchecked > > at this time as I have never known a need for them. Should they be > > enabled as well? > > you probably want CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y but > I'm not sure if this is required ... > Guess it cannot hurt to enable it anyway for safety. Thank you! now i just hope vservers live up to my expectations.. I have been given the task of finding a way to consolidate which means looking at virtualizing/partitioning to cut the number of servers down. What I am hoping for is enough performance to be able to reduce 39 servers to just 8 or 9 hosts.. we are a fairly busy isp so some of the servers are hit pretty hard.. the only other problem I fear I will run into is in one host there will hve to be at least 4 nics since the servers are on various vlans and each subnet has its assigned switch port. to complicate matters even more, several of the vservers will have to support a few hundred ip addresses each (email and web for domains with dedicated ip addresses). I only hope this can do it as i have found nothing else suitable other than the ibm partitioned minis or blades.($$$).. I believe UML has entirely too much overhead for our needs. > best, > Herbert > > > Chuck > > > > > best, > > > Herbert > > > > > > > > > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > > > > > > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > > > > > > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > > > > > > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > > > > > > the difference > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > Herbert > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Vserver mailing list > > > > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > > > > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > > > > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > > > > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > > > > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Vserver mailing list > > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chuck > > > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > > > > ___ > > Vserver mailing list > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > -- Chuck "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:49:56PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:45 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > > > using reiserfs v3 > > > > ah, yes, reiser v3 requires the 'attrs' mount option > > to support xattrs (those you can set with chattr), and > > some of those flags are used for the barrier and the > > unification, so you have to add that to the mount options > > > > do i add that only to the fstab entryt for the /vservers mount point > or do I add that to the system / as well? should be sufficient for the /vservers partition > also the kernel has some extended reiserfs options which are unchecked > at this time as I have never known a need for them. Should they be > enabled as well? you probably want CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y but I'm not sure if this is required ... best, Herbert > Chuck > > > best, > > Herbert > > > > > > > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > > > > > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > > > > > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > > > > > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > > > > > the difference > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > Herbert > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > Vserver mailing list > > > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > > > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > > > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > > > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > > > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Vserver mailing list > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > -- > > Chuck > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:45 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > using reiserfs v3 > > ah, yes, reiser v3 requires the 'attrs' mount option > to support xattrs (those you can set with chattr), and > some of those flags are used for the barrier and the > unification, so you have to add that to the mount options > do i add that only to the fstab entryt for the /vservers mount point or do I add that to the system / as well? also the kernel has some extended reiserfs options which are unchecked at this time as I have never known a need for them. Should they be enabled as well? Chuck > best, > Herbert > > > > > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > > > > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > > > > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > > > > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > > > > the difference > > > > > > TIA, > > > Herbert > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Vserver mailing list > > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chuck > > > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > > > > ___ > > Vserver mailing list > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > -- Chuck "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:39:53PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:20 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:01:55PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > > > I am running a Gentoo system and am installing vserver for the > > > first time in an already running machine. I installed the kernel, > > > util-vserver versions of which are below, and ran the testme script > > > which passed. > > > > could you paste the output of this script please? > > davin ~ # ./testme.sh > Linux-VServer Test [V0.13] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 H.Poetzl > chcontext is working. > chbind is working. > Linux 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo i686/0.30.208/0.30.208 [Ea] (0) > VCI: 0002:0001 273 03000116 > --- > [000]# succeeded. > [001]# succeeded. > [011]# succeeded. > [031]# succeeded. > [101]# succeeded. > [102]# succeeded. > [201]# succeeded. > [202]# succeeded. > > > > when i run this command to create the skeleton as instructed in > > > hollow's guide I get the result under it. Any clues? > > > > > > davin ~ # vserver gentoo build -m skeleton --hostname gentoo --initstyle > plain > > > --context 84 --interface gentoo=eth0:64.113.38.84/255.255.255.240 > > > > > > chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags > > > on /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/gentoo > > > > where does /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/gentoo point to > > and what filesystem is used there? > > vdirbase is a symlink pointing to /vservers which then contains the gentoo > directory. i intended this /vservers as a mount point to another drive. i > tried the skeleton creation with /vservers unmounted as well so it lived on > the same hdd... same error. > > using reiserfs v3 ah, yes, reiser v3 requires the 'attrs' mount option to support xattrs (those you can set with chattr), and some of those flags are used for the barrier and the unification, so you have to add that to the mount options best, Herbert > > > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > > > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > > > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > > > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > > > the difference > > > > TIA, > > Herbert > > > > > -- > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Vserver mailing list > > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > > > > -- > > Chuck > > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose > for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " > The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 11:20 pm, Herbert Poetzl wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:01:55PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > > I am running a Gentoo system and am installing vserver for the > > first time in an already running machine. I installed the kernel, > > util-vserver versions of which are below, and ran the testme script > > which passed. > > could you paste the output of this script please? > davin ~ # ./testme.sh Linux-VServer Test [V0.13] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 H.Poetzl chcontext is working. chbind is working. Linux 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo i686/0.30.208/0.30.208 [Ea] (0) VCI: 0002:0001 273 03000116 --- [000]# succeeded. [001]# succeeded. [011]# succeeded. [031]# succeeded. [101]# succeeded. [102]# succeeded. [201]# succeeded. [202]# succeeded. > > when i run this command to create the skeleton as instructed in > > hollow's guide I get the result under it. Any clues? > > > > davin ~ # vserver gentoo build -m skeleton --hostname gentoo --initstyle plain > > --context 84 --interface gentoo=eth0:64.113.38.84/255.255.255.240 > > > > chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags > > on /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/gentoo > > where does /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/gentoo point to > and what filesystem is used there? vdirbase is a symlink pointing to /vservers which then contains the gentoo directory. i intended this /vservers as a mount point to another drive. i tried the skeleton creation with /vservers unmounted as well so it lived on the same hdd... same error. using reiserfs v3 > > > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > > the difference > > TIA, > Herbert > > > -- > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > ___ > > Vserver mailing list > > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver > -- Chuck "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger, and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. " The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] Error when making skeleton
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:01:55PM -0400, Chuck wrote: > I am running a Gentoo system and am installing vserver for the > first time in an already running machine. I installed the kernel, > util-vserver versions of which are below, and ran the testme script > which passed. could you paste the output of this script please? > when i run this command to create the skeleton as instructed in > hollow's guide I get the result under it. Any clues? > > davin ~ # vserver gentoo build -m skeleton --hostname gentoo --initstyle > plain > --context 84 --interface gentoo=eth0:64.113.38.84/255.255.255.240 > > chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags > on /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/gentoo where does /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/gentoo point to and what filesystem is used there? > the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo > the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 > the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I > the tried adding .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a > the difference TIA, Herbert > -- > > Chuck > > > > ___ > Vserver mailing list > Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org > http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] Error when making skeleton
I am running a Gentoo system and am installing vserver for the first time in an already running machine. I installed the kernel, util-vserver versions of which are below, and ran the testme script which passed. when i run this command to create the skeleton as instructed in hollow's guide I get the result under it. Any clues? davin ~ # vserver gentoo build -m skeleton --hostname gentoo --initstyle plain --context 84 --interface gentoo=eth0:64.113.38.84/255.255.255.240 chattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device while reading flags on /etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/gentoo the kernel version is 2.6.13-vs2.1.0-pre5-gentoo the util-vserver version is util-vserver-0.30.208-r2 the host ip is 64.113.38.83 on eth0. when i saw the above error I tried adding the .84 ip to the host as eth0:1 but it didn't make a difference -- Chuck ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
