Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes: I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get: gs vservers # ln -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00 gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify Can not determine packagemanagement style failed to determine configfiles Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which will probably produce different checksums). When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify will still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve timestamps. But because timestamps are used to check whether files are identically resp. are going into the calculation of the hash value, you will not gain very much with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo. Enrico pgpDukvkGqWs6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo
On Sun January 22 2006 05:38, Enrico Scholz wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes: I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get: gs vservers # ln -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00 gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify Can not determine packagemanagement style failed to determine configfiles Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which will probably produce different checksums). Gentoo does handle binary package management - do: emerge --buildpkg whatever (you can set that option in your FEATURES) the 'install' tools accept binary package.tbz2 with a --usepkg option. The package is a 'tar --bzip2' with additional meta-data The process will preserve timestamps and etc as well as any tar --bzip2 Mike When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify will still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve timestamps. But because timestamps are used to check whether files are identically resp. are going into the calculation of the hash value, you will not gain very much with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo. Enrico ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo
Am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2006 12:38 schrieb Enrico Scholz: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes: I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get: gs vservers # ln -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00 gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify Can not determine packagemanagement style failed to determine configfiles Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which will probably produce different checksums). Yes, but Gentoo has package-management - the portage system. When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify will still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve timestamps. But because timestamps are used to check whether files are identically resp. are going into the calculation of the hash value, you will not gain very much with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo. You have to use binary packages, then you will gain the same amount as with other distributions. And you have to compile the things only once. This is o.k. since the compiler-flags won't change from Vserver to VServer. The only issue might be with the portage-use-flags. Enrico -- -- Wilhelm Meier email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo
On Sunday 22 January 2006 15:46, Wilhelm Meier wrote: Am Sonntag, 22. Januar 2006 12:38 schrieb Enrico Scholz: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wilhelm Meier) writes: I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get: gs vservers # ln -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00 gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify Can not determine packagemanagement style failed to determine configfiles Does vhashify/vunify really make sense on Gentoo? AFAIK, Gentoo does not have a packagemanagement and you have to recompile everything (which will probably produce different checksums). Yes, but Gentoo has package-management - the portage system. When you do a 'make install' from the same source tree, vhashify/vunify will still not work because most 'make install' do not preserve timestamps. But because timestamps are used to check whether files are identically resp. are going into the calculation of the hash value, you will not gain very much with vhashify/vunify on Gentoo. You have to use binary packages, then you will gain the same amount as with other distributions. And you have to compile the things only once. This is o.k. since the compiler-flags won't change from Vserver to VServer. The only issue might be with the portage-use-flags. well, if you want unification you probably use the same use flags among unified guests anyway... Enrico ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
[Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo
Hi, I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get: gs vservers # ln -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00 gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify Can not determine packagemanagement style failed to determine configfiles gs vservers # So, how can I fix this? -- Wilhelm Meier email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
Re: [Vserver] How to vunify/vhashify on Gentoo
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 01:47:41PM +0100, Wilhelm Meier wrote: Hi, I'm using Gentoo as a host and also Gentoo as VPSs. If I try to vunify/vhashify two VPS, I get: gs vservers # ln -s /etc/vservers/vs01 /etc/vservers/vs01c/apps/vunify/refserver.00 gs vservers # vserver vs01c unify Can not determine packagemanagement style failed to determine configfiles gs vservers # So, how can I fix this? no idea, Enrico might know ... but you can use vhashify (manually) which was reported to work fine on gentoo HTH, Herbert -- Wilhelm Meier email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver ___ Vserver mailing list Vserver@list.linux-vserver.org http://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver
