Re: [Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-29 Thread alexander goeres - lieblinx GmbH
Nice to know, thanks for the info...

cheers,

Alexander

Am Dienstag, 28. November 2006 17:28 schrieb Peter Mann:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:11:32PM +0100, alexander goeres - lieblinx GmbH 
wrote:
> > just one question aside: is anybody able to figure out, what
> > vserver-versions the debian-kernel-packagers are using?
>
> http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-vserver-686
> http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-vserver-k7
>
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.1
>7-9/changelog
>
> * Update vserver patch to 2.0.2.
>
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.1
>8-5/changelog
>
> * Update vserver patch to 2.0.2.2-rc6.

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Re: [Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-28 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:28:17PM +0100, Peter Mann wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:11:32PM +0100, alexander goeres - lieblinx GmbH 
> wrote:
> > just one question aside: is anybody able to figure out, what 
> > vserver-versions 
> > the debian-kernel-packagers are using?
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-vserver-686
> http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-vserver-k7
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.17-9/changelog
> 
> * Update vserver patch to 2.0.2.
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18-5/changelog
> 
> * Update vserver patch to 2.0.2.2-rc6.

so they are tracking the current stable branch, and I
hope they will also track the upcoming stable (2.2.x)
as soon as it is out ...

great work, big thanks to the debian folks!

best,
Herbert

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Re: [Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-28 Thread Peter Mann
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 05:11:32PM +0100, alexander goeres - lieblinx GmbH 
wrote:
> just one question aside: is anybody able to figure out, what vserver-versions 
> the debian-kernel-packagers are using?

http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-vserver-686
http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-vserver-k7

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.17-9/changelog

* Update vserver patch to 2.0.2.

http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-2.6_2.6.18-5/changelog

* Update vserver patch to 2.0.2.2-rc6.

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Re: [Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-28 Thread alexander goeres - lieblinx GmbH
Hello List,

just one question aside: is anybody able to figure out, what vserver-versions 
the debian-kernel-packagers are using?

Alexander

Am Dienstag, 28. November 2006 16:23 schrieb Michael S. Zick:
> On Tue November 28 2006 08:56, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:18:15PM -0600, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> > > On Sun November 26 2006 12:15, Philippe Clérié wrote:
> > > > Gerald at uni-klu was kind enough to reply to a query I sent him. He
> > > > will not soon be building a vserver kernel for edgy because of lack
> > > > of time.
> > > >
> > > > So I think I'll stick to dapper for a while yet.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding vserver and feisty, it's very likely that the patch is not
> > > > in the distribution because it's no longer in sid. And it makes sense
> > > > not to include it in sid since debian is building kernels with
> > > > built-in vserver. For all architectures too!
> > >
> > > All?
> > > Can't find the -ixp4xx (arm, little endian), nor pa-risc 32 or 64 bit.
> > > The ones posted only have the VServer Kconfig changes.
> >
> > hppa(/64) works quite fine in Linux-VServer, arm
> > too, arm26 is not really tested ... but I don't
> > know for the debian versions ...
>
> Sorry if I was unclear.  The answer is not what architectures work,
> but what architectures Debian provides pre-built kernels for.
>
> I test virgin kernel+VServer on armv5tel Joel tests on hppa/32/64 -
> but neither of us test the _Debian_ pre-builts.
>
> None of those machines are speed demons - so when someone said that
> pre-built kernels where available - I did spend time searching the
> package depositories for them.  Then offered my update of the word: _all_.
>
> For those who roll-their-own:
> Your best bet on arm is 2.6.18.3 or newer to avoid swap problems ...
> Probably 2.6.16.???-pa on hppa (after the spinlock fixes)
> to avoid scsi iommu problems ...
> (Neither set of problems are VServer related.)
>
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Re: [Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-28 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Tue November 28 2006 08:56, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:18:15PM -0600, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> > On Sun November 26 2006 12:15, Philippe Clérié wrote:
> > > Gerald at uni-klu was kind enough to reply to a query I sent him. He will
> > > not soon be building a vserver kernel for edgy because of lack of time.
> > > 
> > > So I think I'll stick to dapper for a while yet.
> > > 
> > > Regarding vserver and feisty, it's very likely that the patch is not in 
> > > the
> > > distribution because it's no longer in sid. And it makes sense not to
> > > include it in sid since debian is building kernels with built-in vserver.
> > > For all architectures too! 
> > 
> > All?
> > Can't find the -ixp4xx (arm, little endian), nor pa-risc 32 or 64 bit.
> > The ones posted only have the VServer Kconfig changes.
> 
> hppa(/64) works quite fine in Linux-VServer, arm
> too, arm26 is not really tested ... but I don't 
> know for the debian versions ...
>

Sorry if I was unclear.  The answer is not what architectures work,
but what architectures Debian provides pre-built kernels for.

I test virgin kernel+VServer on armv5tel Joel tests on hppa/32/64 -
but neither of us test the _Debian_ pre-builts.

None of those machines are speed demons - so when someone said that
pre-built kernels where available - I did spend time searching the
package depositories for them.  Then offered my update of the word: _all_.

For those who roll-their-own:
Your best bet on arm is 2.6.18.3 or newer to avoid swap problems ...
Probably 2.6.16.???-pa on hppa (after the spinlock fixes)
to avoid scsi iommu problems ...
(Neither set of problems are VServer related.)

Mike
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Re: [Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-28 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:18:15PM -0600, Michael S. Zick wrote:
> On Sun November 26 2006 12:15, Philippe Clérié wrote:
> > Gerald at uni-klu was kind enough to reply to a query I sent him. He will
> > not soon be building a vserver kernel for edgy because of lack of time.
> > 
> > So I think I'll stick to dapper for a while yet.
> > 
> > Regarding vserver and feisty, it's very likely that the patch is not in the
> > distribution because it's no longer in sid. And it makes sense not to
> > include it in sid since debian is building kernels with built-in vserver.
> > For all architectures too! 
> 
> All?
> Can't find the -ixp4xx (arm, little endian), nor pa-risc 32 or 64 bit.
> The ones posted only have the VServer Kconfig changes.

hppa(/64) works quite fine in Linux-VServer, arm
too, arm26 is not really tested ... but I don't 
know for the debian versions ...

best,
Herbert

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[Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-27 Thread Philippe Clérié
Christoph Lukas wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>> It looks like Ubuntu is no longer going to include kernel-patch-vserver
>> in the distribution. It's not in feisty.
>> 
>> The patch included in edgy does not apply to the stock linux sources
>> (2.6.17) and edgy does not include 2.6.12/2.6.13/2.6.15 which the patch
>> requires. And, there are no images at ubuntu.uni-klu.ac.at.
> 
> I have applied the original patch for 2.6.17.13 from
> 
>
http://ftp.linux-vserver.org/pub/kernel/vs2.0/patch-2.6.17.13-vs2.0.2.1.diff.bz2
> 
> to linux-source-2.6.17 (version 2.6.17-10.33) from edgy and fixed the
> rejects.
> 
> I can supply the resulting patch or even kernel-image debs if anyone is
> interested.
> 

Thanks for the effort and the offer. I have been reevaluating my _need_ for
vserver on edgy. In fact I am reevaluating the need for edgy on servers.
I'll stick to dapper. At least for a while.

Thanks.



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Re: [Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-26 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Sun November 26 2006 12:15, Philippe Clérié wrote:
> Gerald at uni-klu was kind enough to reply to a query I sent him. He will
> not soon be building a vserver kernel for edgy because of lack of time.
> 
> So I think I'll stick to dapper for a while yet.
> 
> Regarding vserver and feisty, it's very likely that the patch is not in the
> distribution because it's no longer in sid. And it makes sense not to
> include it in sid since debian is building kernels with built-in vserver.
> For all architectures too! 

All?
Can't find the -ixp4xx (arm, little endian), nor pa-risc 32 or 64 bit.
The ones posted only have the VServer Kconfig changes.

Mike
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[Vserver] Re: future vserver on ubuntu

2006-11-26 Thread Philippe Clérié
Gerald at uni-klu was kind enough to reply to a query I sent him. He will
not soon be building a vserver kernel for edgy because of lack of time.

So I think I'll stick to dapper for a while yet.

Regarding vserver and feisty, it's very likely that the patch is not in the
distribution because it's no longer in sid. And it makes sense not to
include it in sid since debian is building kernels with built-in vserver.
For all architectures too! They even have kernels with xen+vserver!!!

Cheerio
Philippe


Herbert Poetzl wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 11:30:33AM -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:
>> It looks like Ubuntu is no longer going to include
>> kernel-patch-vserver in the distribution. It's not in feisty.
>> 
>> The patch included in edgy does not apply to the stock linux sources
>> (2.6.17) and edgy does not include 2.6.12/2.6.13/2.6.15 which the
>> patch requires. And, there are no images at ubuntu.uni-klu.ac.at.
>> 
>> Does anyone know what the plans are?
> 
> would be good to contact ubuntu folks (maintainers),
> they probably know more about that ...
> (please CC us, if you do)
> 
> best,
> Herbert
> 
>> Thanks
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
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