Re: [Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com

2006-02-22 Thread Michael S. Zick
On Wed February 22 2006 15:28, Matt Nuzum wrote:
> 
> Well, one mistake I made when deciding on a data center was to failing
> to see if their service is used by spammers. When I signed up with
> "Neutelligent" in the Tampa Bay are of Florida, USA I didn't check
> this. At the time our servers were installed, several IP blocks were
> black listed and our users could not send e-mail to some domains (such
> as AOL). Fortunately, they had already enacted a policy to get abusers
> off of their network and after a few months the IP Blocks were removed
> from the DNSbl.
> 
> Anytime I consider a host in the future, I'm going to ask what their
> policy on spammers is and check the dns black lists to see if they're
> listed.
>

I wrote a tool for that purpose (among others), see:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/spamviz/
 
Requires that your system have bash and dig installed. GraphViz is optional.

Mike
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Re: [Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com

2006-02-22 Thread Matt Nuzum
On 2/22/06, Eric Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who has replied.  Does anyone have any reason to believe
> that the service from the US company, server4you.com would be any different
> than the service from the German company?
>
> And if it matters, I'm looking for a dedicated host, not an individual
> vserver guest.
>
> Thanks again everyone.

Well, one mistake I made when deciding on a data center was to failing
to see if their service is used by spammers. When I signed up with
"Neutelligent" in the Tampa Bay are of Florida, USA I didn't check
this. At the time our servers were installed, several IP blocks were
black listed and our users could not send e-mail to some domains (such
as AOL). Fortunately, they had already enacted a policy to get abusers
off of their network and after a few months the IP Blocks were removed
from the DNSbl.

Anytime I consider a host in the future, I'm going to ask what their
policy on spammers is and check the dns black lists to see if they're
listed.

SERVER4YOU.COM has been blacklisted in the past. This means that you
should talk to a real person there and find out what their policy is
on dealing with spammers, if they have a guarantee that you will be
able to send mail (not spam) and what recourse you have if your IP
address/block gets black listed.

Their entry-level pricing is pretty good, however their prices quickly
jump up to be about the same as everyone else's (you can find $99/mo
hosting all over).

If I were looking for an entry level server and found that they have
(and enforce) a good no-spam policy I'd consider them.

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Re: [Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com

2006-02-22 Thread Eric Jorgensen
Thanks
to everyone who has replied.  Does anyone have any reason to
believe that the service from the US company, server4you.com would be
any different than the service from the German company?

And if it matters, I'm looking for a dedicated host, not an individual vserver guest.

Thanks again everyone.
- Original Message From: Oliver Welter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: vserver@list.linux-vserver.orgSent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:55:03 AMSubject: Re: [Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com> Stay away from server4free. I've used both their dedicated> server and vservers, and the latter product was awful. Service> was nonexistent, and I was threatened with a suit when I demanded> termination because of sever4free/server4u were defaulting> on their part of the contract.I just can tell you the same - I had a business with them (actually another company name but same business behind) and they are very unfriendly, bad service and not cooperational...Oliver-- Diese Nachricht wurde digital unterschriebenoliwel's public key: http://www.oliwel.de/oliwel.crtBasiszertifikat: http://www.ldv.ei.tum.de/page72___Vserver mailing listVserver@list.linux-vserver.orghttp://list.linux-vserver.org/mailman/listinfo/vserver___
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Re: [Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com

2006-02-19 Thread Oliver Welter

Stay away from server4free. I've used both their dedicated
server and vservers, and the latter product was awful. Service
was nonexistent, and I was threatened with a suit when I demanded
termination because of sever4free/server4u were defaulting
on their part of the contract.


I just can tell you the same - I had a business with them (actually 
another company name but same business behind) and they are very 
unfriendly, bad service and not cooperational...


Oliver
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Re: [Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com

2006-02-19 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 11:05:27AM +0100, Norbert Klamann (gpre) wrote:

> I have no account with them, but according to some postings on other 
> hosters boards their service seems not to be the best.

Stay away from server4free. I've used both their dedicated
server and vservers, and the latter product was awful. Service
was nonexistent, and I was threatened with a suit when I demanded
termination because of sever4free/server4u were defaulting
on their part of the contract.

I've eventually moved all my business to Hetzner, who
so far I've been very happy with (their (naked) rack hosting is
very reasonably priced -- 99 EUR/month, with 300 EUR setup fee).

I'm also running a flat rodent 10 MBit server at EUserv which
is okay but giving me about half of the advertised bandwidth --
suddenly -- which leds me to think they've started to throttle
traffic (which they deny they do).

> In general the support boards of the german providers are 
> german-speaking, so you should think twice to host there if you don't 
> know the language.

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Re: [Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com

2006-02-19 Thread Norbert Klamann (gpre)

Eric Jorgensen schrieb:

Hello,

I am looking go to a "real" hosting provider and was wondering if anyone 
on the list has experience using vservers at server4you.com on their 
dedicated hosting plans.  Google has plenty of examples of people using 
vservers with them, and there is even a vserver forum on server4you.de, 
but I do not speach German.  :-)


So I was wondering:  Is it difficult to set up without access to the 
console?  How responsive is their customer support?  How have you found 
their network bandwidth and reliability to be?


I have no account with them, but according to some postings on other 
hosters boards their service seems not to be the best.
In general the support boards of the german providers are 
german-speaking, so you should think twice to host there if you don't 
know the language.





Thanks for any insight!

Eric




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[Vserver] vserver hosting on server4you.com

2006-02-18 Thread Eric Jorgensen
Hello,

I am looking go to a "real" hosting provider and was wondering if
anyone on the list has experience using vservers at server4you.com on
their dedicated hosting plans.  Google has plenty of examples of
people using vservers with them, and there is even a vserver forum on
server4you.de, but I do not speach German.  :-)

So I was wondering:  Is it difficult to set up without access to
the console?  How responsive is their customer support?  How
have you found their network bandwidth and reliability to be?

Thanks for any insight!

Eric
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