Re: Meeting Notes (while still at the meeting.)

[Daniel Forsdyke]

Thanks Daniel for the notes from the Wamug meeting.

I  was unfortunately unable to make the meeting.  It was great to get 
the meeting notes as there were several things that I wanted to see at 
the meeting, especially the Filemaker Pro 7 review by Peter.


Here's hoping I get to the next meeting!!

Regards
Daniel F.


On 06/04/2004, at 9:52 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


Hi All!!

For those that missed the meeting here is a run down of what happened.
(Apologies for any errors or mistakes. I'll get better over time.) :o)

Peter opened the meeting with Q & A.
€ There was a query with a G5 that locks up on sleep. The screen 
doesn't

kernal panic but in fact pixelates where the mouse pointer used to be.
Suggested checking for G5 firmware update.

€ Another query in regards to File sharing with OS9 and OSX and if 
10.3.3.
Would make it any better. Peter Hinchliffe said it should just work 
fine and

drag and drop should still work the same.


Martin Hill demonstrated Sailing Clicker with his Sony Ericsson P900 
phone

and his computer. He used Bluetooth to show off how to control iTunes
through the phone while wondering around. Changing tracks, adjusting 
volume
and more. He also covered some of the features of the P900 and how it 
is
combined with with a PDA, diary features and more. His phone rang and 
the

music paused while someone was calling.
It would also be useful as a remote for PowerPoint/Keynote 
presentations and

controlling slides, and also getting the speakers notes on the phone.
You can also go into mouse mode and use the phone as a mouse on the 
laptop

to control the pointer.
You can also access your email account and look at your email as well, 
and

use the Opera browser as well.


Matt Healey then showed off Garage Band using a USB (piano) Keyboard.
(Kindly borrowed off Peter Botman. Sells from Kosmic in Osborne Park 
for

$99.) GarageBand being part of iLife '04. (Retails for $79 from your
favourite Apple supplier.)
By using the USB keyboard you can play musical notes and tunes which 
then
get added to your track. Once you are happy with it you can then add 
another
instrument by changing your selection. It comes with many sounds pre 
built
in (you can add more by purchasing the GarageBand Jam Pack for $158). 
You

can then build up your musical template and have layer after layer of
different instruments.
You can also export it to iTunes (as an mp3) once you are happy with 
your

"compilation" and share it with the world.
Matt played one of the demos to give an idea of what can be 
accomplished.

For best performance you need a G4 500-600MHz or better.
So you don't necessarily have to have a lot of musical talent, but you 
can

certainly have a lot of fun!!


Peter Hinchliffe then demo'ed the new version of FileMaker, Version 
7.The

idea is to show us some of the underlying changes.
He gave a brief history through the versions. Version 7 is quite a 
change to
the program and the workings of it. Filemaker gains table formats for 
the
first time. Peter then demo's how FileMaker uses relationships and 
portals.
(2 files work together quite nicely.) With a lot of scripting you 
could have

a lot of files all open and working together, which can slow it down a
little over networking. Filemaker 7 changes this.
Business tracker lets you have one file open which accesses different
tables/file references rather then many separate databases. It uses a 
lot of
internal tables, rather than separate files. It makes it easier and 
more
straight forward. (It also gives you a more complex relationship 
overview

that you can work with more.)
The trick is to keep it organised at the start and keep it going from 
there.

It will then allow you to build some powerful solutions.
Using repeating fields, graphics and properties allows you to build a 
tabbed
Filemaker solution that is a lot more powerful then previous versions. 
(Also

helped through scripting.)
Another technical change added is a lot more functions, a new one 
called

"get function" and "logic" functions (called "let" which allows local
variables, which wasn't used before. It allows you to write your own
functions. Almost close to a programmable language.)
Accounts and privileges are also increased. It is now a lot more 
secure.

Peter then showed a QuickTime demo of some of the changes.

I then demo'ed the new Nanosaur 2:Hatchling game which allows you to 
play I
3D. We showed this off with some 3D glasses kindly loaned from Shay 
Telfar.
Nanosaur 2 is a continuation of the original Nanosaur storyline, yet 
this
time you get to fly a pteradactyl who's loaded with hi-tech weaponry, 
and

the game is much larger than the original 1998 game. In addition to the
adventure mode where you blast enemy dinos and save eggs, there are 
also six

two-player levels including racing, capture-the-flag, and battle.
The demo is available off the local WAMUG mirror site. (If not there 
as yet,

it will be shortly)

Re: Meeting Notes (while still at the meeting.)

[Paul Troester]

On 6 Apr 2004, at 2152, Daniel Kerr wrote:


Hi All!!

For those that missed the meeting here is a run down of what happened.
(Apologies for any errors or mistakes. I'll get better over time.) :o)

Door prizes given away and the meeting closed with Tea and Coffee.


I would like to thank Daniel and Matt for the new mouse. Took that 
puppy home and ripped the covering off, plugged it in and it worked 
just great. My son was looking at the instructions and install CD with 
a puzzled look on his face; and I told him it was for  the IBMs (Dark 
Side) computers. "Seems like a lot of hard work. (Out of the mouth of 
Babes.)


Regards, Paul

Born to Fish; forced to work

The verbiage

[Vladimir James]

Gee guys, how about reducing the verbiage. The letters are too important
to be buried in unnecessary copy. It took only seconds to reduce the last
Digest to a few dozen words. I'm sure others could do this kind of
editing with their submissions as well:

-- WAMUG email 

>WAMUG Mailing List Digest #247
> 1) Problem with mail
>by Peter Hinchliffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 2) dig camera as a web cam
>by Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> - - - - - about 8 million words excised - - - - 
>
>End of WAMUG Mailing List Digest #247
>

---
I seem to remember Onno and others posting useful suggestions on
submitting letters. It's time for a reminder. 

Vlad James

Meeting Notes (while still at the meeting.)

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi All!!

For those that missed the meeting here is a run down of what happened.
(Apologies for any errors or mistakes. I'll get better over time.) :o)

Peter opened the meeting with Q & A.
€ There was a query with a G5 that locks up on sleep. The screen doesn't
kernal panic but in fact pixelates where the mouse pointer used to be.
Suggested checking for G5 firmware update.

€ Another query in regards to File sharing with OS9 and OSX and if 10.3.3.
Would make it any better. Peter Hinchliffe said it should just work fine and
drag and drop should still work the same.


Martin Hill demonstrated Sailing Clicker with his Sony Ericsson P900 phone
and his computer. He used Bluetooth to show off how to control iTunes
through the phone while wondering around. Changing tracks, adjusting volume
and more. He also covered some of the features of the P900 and how it is
combined with with a PDA, diary features and more. His phone rang and the
music paused while someone was calling.
It would also be useful as a remote for PowerPoint/Keynote presentations and
controlling slides, and also getting the speakers notes on the phone.
You can also go into mouse mode and use the phone as a mouse on the laptop
to control the pointer.
You can also access your email account and look at your email as well, and
use the Opera browser as well.


Matt Healey then showed off Garage Band using a USB (piano) Keyboard.
(Kindly borrowed off Peter Botman. Sells from Kosmic in Osborne Park for
$99.) GarageBand being part of iLife '04. (Retails for $79 from your
favourite Apple supplier.)
By using the USB keyboard you can play musical notes and tunes which then
get added to your track. Once you are happy with it you can then add another
instrument by changing your selection. It comes with many sounds pre built
in (you can add more by purchasing the GarageBand Jam Pack for $158). You
can then build up your musical template and have layer after layer of
different instruments.
You can also export it to iTunes (as an mp3) once you are happy with your
"compilation" and share it with the world.
Matt played one of the demos to give an idea of what can be accomplished.
For best performance you need a G4 500-600MHz or better.
So you don't necessarily have to have a lot of musical talent, but you can
certainly have a lot of fun!!


Peter Hinchliffe then demo'ed the new version of FileMaker, Version 7.The
idea is to show us some of the underlying changes.
He gave a brief history through the versions. Version 7 is quite a change to
the program and the workings of it. Filemaker gains table formats for the
first time. Peter then demo's how FileMaker uses relationships and portals.
(2 files work together quite nicely.) With a lot of scripting you could have
a lot of files all open and working together, which can slow it down a
little over networking. Filemaker 7 changes this.
Business tracker lets you have one file open which accesses different
tables/file references rather then many separate databases. It uses a lot of
internal tables, rather than separate files. It makes it easier and more
straight forward. (It also gives you a more complex relationship overview
that you can work with more.)
The trick is to keep it organised at the start and keep it going from there.
It will then allow you to build some powerful solutions.
Using repeating fields, graphics and properties allows you to build a tabbed
Filemaker solution that is a lot more powerful then previous versions. (Also
helped through scripting.)
Another technical change added is a lot more functions, a new one called
"get function" and "logic" functions (called "let" which allows local
variables, which wasn't used before. It allows you to write your own
functions. Almost close to a programmable language.)
Accounts and privileges are also increased. It is now a lot more secure.
Peter then showed a QuickTime demo of some of the changes.

I then demo'ed the new Nanosaur 2:Hatchling game which allows you to play I
3D. We showed this off with some 3D glasses kindly loaned from Shay Telfar.
Nanosaur 2 is a continuation of the original Nanosaur storyline, yet this
time you get to fly a pteradactyl who's loaded with hi-tech weaponry, and
the game is much larger than the original 1998 game. In addition to the
adventure mode where you blast enemy dinos and save eggs, there are also six
two-player levels including racing, capture-the-flag, and battle.
The demo is available off the local WAMUG mirror site. (If not there as yet,
it will be shortly)

Running it in 3D is quite a difference. You can also get updates to Otto
Matic and Bugdom 2 as well so that these will also run in 3D. Certainly
worth a look if you want something different out of a game.
I finished it off with a movie trailer of ThunderBirds.

Door prizes given away and the meeting closed with Tea and Coffee.


Other items:
The annual "prize draw" was postponed to next meeting once the "new" website
is up

Re: setting up office network - modem sharing

[Paul & Caroline van der Mey]

OSX.1.3 does not have the 'share internet' button that I believe is 
available on later releases.


I'm running OSX.1.5 and have installed Brickhouse (V1.1b6) to set-up the 
internet sharing and firewall with a graphical interface. Dial up 
internet is shared between the G4 and a PowerBook connected by ethernet.


Try 

Hope it helps

Paul van der Mey


gary dorn wrote:


howdy
I have setup a network between two computers- a G4 with Ox 1.3
and bondi A iMac with 10.2.8
I have set up
location>automatic> tcp>manual
for both computers and they are talking to each other ie i have moved 
files


now I understand that I can share the modem connection

I can dial up in the G4 and authenticate a connection
what do I do now to be able to
check email
browse
on both machines

I've borrowed
Mac OS X dummies book

is there a page in this I could look up.

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Re: Fast User Switching during Prebinding

[James Devenish]

Hi,

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 05:14:45PM +0800, Ryan Schotte wrote:
> Try ssh'ing in from another machine - patience is a virtue, the CPU is
> occupied! - and killing off first the prebinding process, then
> loginwindow.app, and then SystemUIServer.app.

Thanks for the suggestion. It is highly apt to my environments and I had
aimed to do this in the past, but it failed to work (well, SSH never got
as far as logging in). Hard drive activity continued for between 30mins
and an hour before I had to take drastic action (the person's work was
"trapped" in the machine and we're...a little stressed right now).

Re: Digital Images to 35mm Slides?

[Stephen Jansen]

Also try Promote Media Group in Morley

Cheers

> From: "Mark Scholmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:30:32 +0800
> To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
> Subject: Re: Digital Images to 35mm Slides?
> 
> "Churchill Colour-Labs" in Subiaco (although, they may have moved... I
> think?) used to do this a lot.
> 
> Probably lots of others do as well.
> 
> Mark Scholmann
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Antony N. Lord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
> Sent: Monday, 5 April 2004 12:16
> Subject: Digital Images to 35mm Slides?
> 
> 
>> I need to transfer some images (Photoshop artwork of corporate logos)
>> to 35mm slides so they can be projected on a wall.
>> 
>> Can anyone here recommend a company that does this? I'm not sure if
>> this falls out side of the scope of most photo stores...
>> 
>> Cheers, Antony.
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Re: setting up office network - modem sharing

[Stewart Woods]

On 06/04/2004, at 3:01 PM, gary dorn wrote:

I can dial up in the G4 and authenticate a connection
what do I do now to be able to
check email
browse
on both machines


On the G4:

System Prefs - Network - Internet - "Start sharing"

This should do it
HTH

Stew

Re: Fast User Switching during Prebinding

[Ryan Schotte]

>Hi,
>
>Does anyone else find that machines getting 'stuck' if Fast User
>Switching (OS X 10.3) is used while an Apple installer is "Optimizing
>System Performance"? Basically, the system gets stuck on its blank blue
>screen while switching. I can't remember if this is before or after the
>'3-d cube' effect. Anyone know how to recover from this situation
>without pressing the hardware reset button? I'm yet to see whether the
>systems "come back" after "optimisation" has finished, but I seem to
>recall that they don't.

Try ssh'ing in from another machine - patience is a virtue, the CPU is
occupied! - and killing off first the prebinding process, then
loginwindow.app, and then SystemUIServer.app. The GUI will be restarted,
and it will kill any apps you were running, but it is kinder to the
filesystem than a hardware reset.

A little drastic, but in that state there simply isn't much of a way to
interact with GUI applications.

Ryan

setting up office network - modem sharing

[gary dorn]

howdy
I have setup a network between two computers- a G4 with Ox 1.3
and bondi A iMac with 10.2.8
I have set up
location>automatic> tcp>manual
for both computers and they are talking to each other ie i have moved files

now I understand that I can share the modem connection

I can dial up in the G4 and authenticate a connection
what do I do now to be able to
check email
browse
on both machines

I've borrowed
Mac OS X dummies book

is there a page in this I could look up.

Fast User Switching during Prebinding

[James Devenish]

Hi,

Does anyone else find that machines getting 'stuck' if Fast User
Switching (OS X 10.3) is used while an Apple installer is "Optimizing
System Performance"? Basically, the system gets stuck on its blank blue
screen while switching. I can't remember if this is before or after the
'3-d cube' effect. Anyone know how to recover from this situation
without pressing the hardware reset button? I'm yet to see whether the
systems "come back" after "optimisation" has finished, but I seem to
recall that they don't.

Meeting reminder - Tonights Agenda

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi All

A quick reminder for tonight's meeting.

What you can expect:

Normal Q & A

Matt is going to show off another part of iLife '04 - GarageBand
(and we even have a little keyboard to use as well. Very cool)

Peter is going to show off FileMaker 7 and what new cool features it has.

I get the fun part and will be showing off a new game - Nanosaur 2.
(And Peter has even managed to borrow some 3D glasses for the night for all
to use - Thanks Shay!)

A couple of movie trailers to show off.

More prizes to give away

Tea and Coffee will be available afterwards.

So bring along your questions, your ideas, your musical talent/ear,..but
failing that,...just yourself.

Same time, same place. For more info have a look at:


We look forward to seeing you all tonight!

Enjoy your day!

Kind Regards
Daniel Kerr

new Security Update available

[Ryan Schotte]

Security Update 2004-04-05 is now available for both 10.2.8 and 10.3.3.

It is about 3MB, and hasn't appeared to break anything in the few
minutes I've been running it.

> Security Update 2004-04-05 delivers a number of security 
> enhancements and is recommended for all Macintosh users. 
> This update includes the following components:
>
> CUPS Printing 
> libxml2 
> Mail 
> OpenSSL 

Ryan

Re: Subscriptions

[Daniel Forsdyke]

I had almost forgotten, but I sent a $30 cheque in December and have 
not heard anything back.


Daniel F.


On 05/04/2004, at 6:07 PM, Reg Whitely wrote:


Oh Dear, Ronnie

I transferred my 2003 payment before end of the last financial year 
last and I am still waiting. Vicki said she'd look into it but I must 
have missed the mail. sorry to say so but you've just twigged my 
memory.


:-(

Reg

On 5 Apr 2004, at 4:30pm, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hello members,

Back on 1st March 2004, I transferred $30 into WAMUG's Bank Account 
for renewal of my Membership.

I have not received a receipt or new card from WAMUG as yet.
Do I receive a new card by post or do I have to pick it up ?

Thanks.
Ronni




Begin forwarded message:


On 27/02/2004, at 12:40 PM, John Currie wrote:



G'Day all   from the ex-treasurer


Some members have been asking about subscriptions .
 As you will recall  we have been moving towards the situation 
where all
subscriptions  expired on a common date, namely 31st December each 
year.


The majority of members subscriptions expired  last December  31st
There are a few that have paid in advance of that date.

The subscription  for ordinary members is $30
The subscription for students is $20
The subscription for Corporate members  is  $190


Payment where due can be made by  cheque  or money order  to

 WAMUG Treasurer
 Post Office Box 514 Wembley Post Office   6913

 Alternatively  you can pay by Bank transfer to

 BANK WEST
 WAMUG ACCOUNT  is  BSB 306075 and Account number 4197787

 So that we can identify who the payment is from please include 
your Name

and/or Member No in what is known as the narrative.

  WAMUG  does not run raffles. We conduct ballots to select  
members worthy of  some special recognition.