Anyone know this software?
Does anyone know about this software - MacPhoneHome security app to track locate stolen Macs . I found it listed on Versiontracker and read the spiel. sounds quite good. cheers, Brad -- Brad Helden Perth, Western Australia * The contents of this email transmission are confidential and may be protected by professional privilege. It is only intended for the named recipient/s of this email.
List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 23:34, BART RAFFAELE wrote: -- From: BART RAFFAELE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:51:47 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Test please ignore! While I completely understand your need to test your email and perhaps to a lesser degree your list subscription, I must point out that sending an email not once, but three times to a mailing list as large as WAMUG is in my opinion pretty inconsiderate. A better way to test your email is to send a message to yourself. This will test both incoming and outgoing mail. The *only* reason you should ever send a test message to a mailing list is when a normal posting you have sent has not come through in 24 hours, and your test message should say so: I've sent a message to the list, it didn't come through, I'm trying again - here is the text I sent - sorry if you get two. Now you might get all upset about this response to your innocent email, but consider this: Your messages contained a total (by the time they got to me) of 5922 bytes. That doesn't seem too much really. I pay 17.6c per megabyte excess charge. So your message doesn't cost much: (5922/1024/1024*17.6c) 0.1 cent. Now imagine that there are 400 subscribers, so there was 40 cents of cost associated with all of the subscribers. Then there is the charge for outgoing traffic on the mail server, another 40 cents. Now your three test messages which contributed nothing at all to this community cost it 80 cents. Now I don't know how many actual subscribers there are on this list - neither likely do you, but if there were 1000 subscribers your test message cost this community 2 dollars. If I were to read WAMUG over GPRS - when I'm between towns - my charge is 2 cents per *kilo* byte, so the messages you sent would have cost me around 11.5 cents on average, but more likely three or four times that - the rate varies and includes flag-fall etc. - clearly a fools errand to read WAMUG on-line. (Unfortunately, I cannot pre-filter mail, so I still need to download the headers, then do a second download to only read those I'm interested in - massive inconvenience and increased cost.) You can argue that you and others don't pay 17.6c cents per megabyte, or that there is no real cost because your connection plan has data included, or your Internet access is unlimited, or that the number of bytes I received are not representative because my mail comes to me on a tortuous route. That is not my point, I use those numbers to illustrate that there is an actual cost associated with each message sent. As a member of this community I'm happy to bear the cost for questions to do with the community, with Macintosh problems and humour, but I'm not impressed when I'm paying for spam or test messages. All I ask is that you are mindful of the fact that there are people on the other end of *every* email you send to the list - including this one. So I would ask that you treat it with respect. Finally before I shut up, you may well ask why it is that I didn't send this message to you directly? I considered that, however a public message requires a public response. For all of you who've waded through this and are now shaking your head I ask the following question: Would you still subscribe to WAMUG if the content was useless? ..let the flames begin.. Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S38°01'05 - E145°25'10 (Upper Beaconsfield, VIC) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
Re: List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
On 13/04/2004, at 4:18 AM, Onno Benschop wrote: ..let the flames begin.. OK. I'll bite! Congratulations! Your response, all about the cost of email traffic to mailing lists, was absolutely breathtaking in its irony. Someone sends a couple of innocent (your quotes, not mine) test messages, which most of us happily ignore and move on with our lives, and cops a three page lecture about sending too much email traffic. Superb! A great way to get people to unsubscribe and never come back. I can't even imagine how long it must have taken you to write it. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
Re: List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 10:48, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 13/04/2004, at 4:18 AM, Onno Benschop wrote: ..let the flames begin.. OK. I'll bite! Congratulations! Your response, all about the cost of email traffic to mailing lists, was absolutely breathtaking in its irony. Noted. As soon as you devise a strategy that allows and encourages community debate about this community that does not include the use of bandwidth, I'd like to hear it. Someone sends a couple of innocent (your quotes, not mine) test messages, which most of us happily ignore and move on with our lives, and cops a three page lecture about sending too much email traffic. Sigh, there is one fundamental difference between the test messages and the message I wrote, and that is that the original three test messages contributed nothing to this community but only cost it and were completely unnecessary, where my message sought to create debate to improve this community, witness the replies I've received to date. While I agree with you that my message used bandwidth, in fact more than the original message, there is in our electronic community no other way to start a public debate. Superb! A great way to get people to unsubscribe and never come back. If people read a message and feel offended by an attempt by a long-standing member of this community to improve the signal to noise ratio, then that is their prerogative. I feel sorry for their loss. Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S38°01'05 - E145°25'10 (Upper Beaconsfield, VIC) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
Re: List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
Although I am not concerned with the cost of email traffic, I agree with Onno's opinion of test messages. One test message I can happily ignore but multiple messages is going much too far. This is not the first instance of such multiple test messages and subscribers/potential subscribers should be made aware that such behaviour is not acceptableit is a matter of common courtesy. I am a member of various US mailing lists, all of which frown on test messages. Bob At 8:48 AM 13/4/04, Peter Hinchliffe eloquently proclaimed... On 13/04/2004, at 4:18 AM, Onno Benschop wrote: ..let the flames begin.. OK. I'll bite! Congratulations! Your response, all about the cost of email traffic to mailing lists, was absolutely breathtaking in its irony. Someone sends a couple of innocent (your quotes, not mine) test messages, which most of us happily ignore and move on with our lives, and cops a three page lecture about sending too much email traffic. Superb! A great way to get people to unsubscribe and never come back. I can't even imagine how long it must have taken you to write it.
Filemaker Pro question
Dear Peter, I am just beginning in Filemaker Pro v.7, setting up a database for research results. I am wondering if there is a quick way to be able to show/hide certain fields in the database. What I specifically want to do is to be able to include identifying material, such as names and contact details in the database as a whole, and for my own benefit, but hide these specific details when reporting on the study at a research seminar, or handing in my final dissertation results. I'm hoping that you may know of a way, I've searched the 'help' database, but doesn't seem to cover this specifically. Cheers, Susan. Susan Hastings Registered Psychologist Telephone: 9458 1551 Fax: 9458 4484 Mobile: 0409 688 004
Re: Filemaker Pro question
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 11:24, Susan Hastings wrote: Dear Peter, I am just beginning in Filemaker Pro v.7, setting up a If this message was for Peter, you should send it to him. database for research results. I am wondering if there is a quick way to be able to show/hide certain fields in the database. What I specifically want to do is to be able to include identifying material, such as names and contact details in the database as a whole, and for my own benefit, but hide these specific details when reporting on the study at a research seminar, or handing in my final dissertation results. I'm hoping that you may know of a way, I've searched the 'help' database, but doesn't seem to cover this specifically. Cheers, Susan. In FileMaker a database design is separate from its display. When you create a Layout the fields are used to display content. If you want to hide a field, delete it from the Layout. This will not remove the data from the design, but hide the information as you request. PS. I haven't used FileMaker since about v5, but I really doubt that this behaviour has changed. Susan Hastings Registered Psychologist Telephone: 9458 1551 Fax: 9458 4484 Mobile: 0409 688 004 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S38°01'05 - E145°25'10 (Upper Beaconsfield, VIC) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
Regional DVDs
Having IDVD-3 on my Mac is simply great, but the restriction to Region 4 offerings is frustrating. What options are there to use DVDs from other regions, ie without (a) having to travel, (b) use up my allotment of changes on the Mac or (c) buy overseas equipment? Vlad James
The mystery continues.........
Hi Folks, On the 6th of April we had our April WAMUG meeting.. and towards the end of the meeting I held up my hand and did not open my mouth(unusual for me) and then answered the question correctly. and now am the proud owner of a two button optical mouse with a scrolling wheel. (Sorry Phil) went home and checked my email, (using my new mouse :) ) and there was an email from Daniel sending notes on the meeting. I thought that it would be polite to reply to his email and thank everyone for my new mouse. So I did. So that all took place on the night of the 6th of April. I expected to see my reply to Daniel the next day on the list. My reply to Daniel's email finally showed up on the list yesterday, the 12th of April. Shades of Australia Post; I send email to the east coast of the states and have a response the next day but; when I send an email across town here in Perth it takes 6 days for it to show up on the list. I guess Rove has it right - - WHAT THE !! Regards, Paul Born to Fish; forced to work
Re: The mystery continues.........
On 13/04/2004, at 10:28 AM, Paul Troester wrote: My reply to Daniel's email finally showed up on the list yesterday, the 12th of April. Shades of Australia Post; I send email to the east coast of the states and have a response the next day but; when I send an email across town here in Perth it takes 6 days for it to show up on the list. I guess Rove has it right - - WHAT THE !! Regards, Paul Over the years I have had emails take anywhere from no-time-at-all to never to reach their destination. I have also known emails which I know have been sent immediately to me by others to show up many days later. I guess it all depends on the caching vagaries of the various servers involved. With the amount of traffic flowing through these things on a daily basis, it just stand to reason that there will be a small degree of error. I don't find a delay of 6 days all that surprising. A little unusual, but not surprising. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
Re: The mystery continues.........
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, Apr 13, 2004 at 10:49:46AM +0800, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: Over the years I have had emails take anywhere from no-time-at-all to never to reach their destination. I have also known emails which I know have been sent immediately to me by others to show up many days later. In the always-connected SMTP Internet, there aren't many good excuses for this. Especially given that a lot of transactions occur directly between a sender's mail system to the recipient's (i.e. without intermediaries). Things like virus scanners, misconfigurations, hardware failures and DNS problems can all cause delays in e-mail. (And some very large providers like Hotmail can have problems that are unique to the way SMTP is handled by a plethora of servers.) However, I think that unexpected delays of more than four hours should be considered disturbing. (For active e-mail lists, though, delays as short as 10 minutes can be enough to cause confusion!) Delays of more than a day will often result in an automated delivery notification messages unless there is a fundamental problem. With regards to volume, this should only have an impact on mail services that go across slow links. In general, ISPs will have plenty of reserve capacity to handle elevated e-mail loads. It is common to find that mailing-list software cause more of a delay than the actual transfer of mail. (However, delays with iiNet e-mail are apparently commonplace.) Intranet deliveries should normally be very rapid unless content is being screened. I don't find a delay of 6 days all that surprising. A little unusual, but not surprising. Interestingly, the WAMUG list software strips away all the diagnostic information so that we can't tell where the delay occurred!
Re: The mystery continues.........
On 13/4/04 11:14 AM, James Devenish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, the WAMUG list software strips away all the diagnostic information so that we can't tell where the delay occurred! I think you may find that the 9 messages all received yesterday were stuck in the WAMUG system somewhere, be it part of the first post rule or something similar. (I don't know a lot about that side of it) but normally when a lot of posts all arrive at the same time, that's why. Not a big problem in the scheme of things,just takes time sometimes. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel Kerr --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh**
Re: The mystery continues.........
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 12:28, Paul Troester wrote: My reply to Daniel's email finally showed up on the list yesterday, the 12th of April. Shades of Australia Post; I send email to the east coast of the states and have a response the next day but; when I send an email across town here in Perth it takes 6 days for it to show up on the list. A few points: Before we start, a packet is a little chunk that when combined make a communication stream like an email, or a web-page. It's the lowest logical level of communication on the Internet. (If you're a geek, there are lower ones, but lets not go there...) The Internet is a cooperative effort. What this means is that packets that my computer sends out arrive at their intended destination only by way of the cooperation of all of the networking equipment in between. To illustrate this, here is a simplified trace route from my computer to the WAMUG list server: 1. satweb-gw 2. * * * 3. 192.168.1.20 4. 192.168.10.1 5. Vlan200.22bjc76f9.optus.net.au 6. GigEth5-0-0.un1.optus.net.au 7. Worldcom.un1.optus.net.au 8. 431.at-6-0-0.XR2.SYD2.Alter.Net 9. so-0-0-0.XR2.PER1.ALTER.NET 10. 412.ATM8-0-0.GW1.PER1.ALTER.NET 11. snowregal-gw.aspac.customer.alter.net 12. wamug1.extremedsl.com.au What this list shows is that between my computer and the WAMUG computer there are many different devices and at least two if not three companies who all need to cooperate just to get a single packet from my machine to the list server. Email is built in a similar way. It relies on cooperation of computers to send and receive email. For a WAMUG email message to arrive at my computer, the following list of computers was involved in the process: 1. wamug.org.au 2. mail3.highway1.com.au 3. hedgehog.highway1.com.au 4. localhost Each of those computers has to talk to the next, using the cooperation of all of the devices in between. If that weren't complicated enough, your computer when it sends mail has to get the message to the list server, so it can distribute the mail. So, now we have about 100 devices all talking to each other, just to send mail. On my computer, email gets retrieved by a program called fetchmail, which delivers it to a program called exim, which stores it in a mail spool file, which gets read by a program called Evolution, where the mail gets parsed and shown in a window as a new message. There are three programs, just on my computer (localhost in the above list), that see the email before I actually get to have the opportunity to read the message. Similarly, each of the other computers receives email in one place and hands it over to another to process, which may or may not involve more programmes. The list server likely gets the mail from a program that sends mail on your behalf, which is likely at least another three steps. So apart from the technicalities of how data gets shipped around the Internet, shipped around software, shipped around inside your computer, there are many obstacles along the way. Email is pretty resilient. It can cope pretty well with network outages, packet loss, full hard-disks, power failures, mis-configurations and all manner of evil stuff that can happen along the way. So we're talking about 300-odd (excluding the actual network - which would likely increase that to 3000-odd) processes that make it possible for your mail to actually arrive at its destination. So, it's pretty good that it arrives at all :-) Finally, our implementation of email follows a protocol called SMTP, which does not really guarantee any delivery at all. As an aside, this is one of the reasons that spam is so prolific. Another problem is that it isn't authenticated - so to a certain degree, anyone can pretend to be anyone else with SMTP. All this means nothing in the face of your experience of the missing email. Because email is pretty reliable, the most likely reasons your email doesn't arrive are: * You sent it to the wrong address (but it arrived eventually, so it's not likely in this case:-) * You actually forgot to send it, or your mail program did - this becomes more and more likely these days. * One of the computers along the way had a failure, the message was queued, the failure was fixed and the message got delivered. * Most email software has an exponential delay. If it doesn't succeed immediately, it tries in an hour, in three hours, in a day, in three days, in a week, then fails. Some mail software sends out warnings during this period, others don't. Now for the million dollar question: Why did my message take so long? The answer you can now understand is: Dunno. Hope this helps explain the vagaries of email. Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S38°01'05 - E145°25'10 (Upper Beaconsfield, VIC) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC
Re: Anyone know this software?
Does anyone know about this software - MacPhoneHome security app to track locate stolen Macs . I found it listed on Versiontracker and read the spiel. sounds quite good. I've set it up a couple of times on my dad's iMac and PowerBook, with them configured to phone home to my email account... It seems to work extremely well. Haven't actually been able to real-world test it yet, because the machines haven't been stolen... but oh well ;) If I remember correctly, the initial configuration can be slightly confusing, but nothing too bad. Ryan
Re: The mystery continues.........
To dig deeper into the problem... One of those slow-down points in-between the From and To servers can be a result of the huge increase in virus attempts. At Lotterywest, we get lots of virus attempts to our mail server, and we have extensive firewall and anti-virus defences. The results of which lately has been a big slow down in our ability to send out our weekly results. Each Saturday, we send out around 20,000+ messages to subscribers of Lotto results. A result of the bigger virus data files to check (our server checks all outgoing messages!), is that our software virus checks are causing a bottle-neck out of our system - with several days in delays for some customers depending on our software, their server and position on the list. We are switching over (soon) to an Appliance which is a hardware/software combo, dedicated to packet filtering (virus checking, etc)... which should see delivery times speed up. Throw into the mix... companies like Bigpond see our 1000+ emails in a night as Spam, so they block them. Also, we now have customers referencing anti-spamming laws in regards to removing themselves from our list. And that can be a challenge in itself when they have changed email addresses (but receive forwarded mail), so that our server doesn't recognise them anymore automatically. (Note : Lotterywest has a double-confirmation opt-in only process of subscribing customers to our Results Email Service.) Phew... sounds like a bit of a venting... but it's getting harder to get legitimate e-mails out the door! :-( Regards, Mark Scholmann Internet Analyst Lotterywest Direct phone : (08) 9340 5232 - Original Message - From: Onno Benschop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Sent: Tuesday, 13 April 2004 11:36 Subject: Re: The mystery continues. On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 12:28, Paul Troester wrote: My reply to Daniel's email finally showed up on the list yesterday, the 12th of April. Shades of Australia Post; I send email to the east coast of the states and have a response the next day but; when I send an email across town here in Perth it takes 6 days for it to show up on the list. A few points: Before we start, a packet is a little chunk that when combined make a communication stream like an email, or a web-page. It's the lowest logical level of communication on the Internet. (If you're a geek, there are lower ones, but lets not go there...) The Internet is a cooperative effort. What this means is that packets that my computer sends out arrive at their intended destination only by way of the cooperation of all of the networking equipment in between. To illustrate this, here is a simplified trace route from my computer to the WAMUG list server: SNIP..
List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
Hi all In the case of muliti messages i'm gulit of as well(sorry) . There was are problem with the return server if you checked the date i sent the email test on the 2nd of April and didn't get a reply until 12th of April. Hence the multi messages But hey! I'm not offended but I've heard it all before. So lets all move on. ;-) regards Bart -- From: BART RAFFAELE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:34:46 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: FW: Test please ignore! -- From: BART RAFFAELE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:07:36 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: FW: Test please ignore! -- From: BART RAFFAELE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:51:47 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Test please ignore! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 14:04, BART RAFFAELE wrote: There was are problem with the return server if you checked the date i sent the email test on the 2nd of April and didn't get a reply until 12th of April. I did check the date and all of them show that they were sent from the WAMUG server on the 12th. (As were nine messages in total.) As another member already pointed out, the list server strips the headers, so we cannot actually determine where exactly the problem occurred. From the list membership perspective the messages all appeared at the same time. A much better approach would have been to send a message to the list-manager, or even one to the list stating: My mail isn't getting through. or to another member: My mail isn't getting through, can you please forward this request for information? As another member pointed out, it is possible that the mail server was clogged and required human intervention which would explain an unusual delay. If the administrator of the server would care to comment we might determine if that is the case. Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S38°01'05 - E145°25'10 (Upper Beaconsfield, VIC) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
Re: The mystery continues.........
On 13/04/2004, at 11:20 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: On 13/4/04 11:14 AM, James Devenish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, the WAMUG list software strips away all the diagnostic information so that we can't tell where the delay occurred! I think you may find that the 9 messages all received yesterday were stuck in the WAMUG system somewhere, be it part of the first post rule or something similar. Thats pretty much the correct answer. To stop people subscribing to the list, spamming us, then leaving WAMUG uses a system called First Post Moderation. Essentially, all new subscribers must have the first post they make to the list moderated. If that message is approved, then they are free to post to the list as often as they like. Occasionally you will see a bunch of messages all come through at the same time. This is caused by me cleaning out a heap of posts that are waiting to be moderated. This is also the reason why some people don't see their post on the list for a while. I usually clean out the backlog once a week or so. If you have successfully posted to the list before, and not re-subscribed in the mean time and are still having problems, see Onno's post for a good reason to the cause of your problems. - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
On 13/04/2004, at 12:20 PM, Onno Benschop wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 14:04, BART RAFFAELE wrote: There was are problem with the return server if you checked the date i sent the email test on the 2nd of April and didn't get a reply until 12th of April. I did check the date and all of them show that they were sent from the WAMUG server on the 12th. (As were nine messages in total.) As another member already pointed out, the list server strips the headers, so we cannot actually determine where exactly the problem occurred. If there is a specific header you want retained, please let me know what it is. I can keep them on a case-by-case basis. From the list membership perspective the messages all appeared at the same time. A much better approach would have been to send a message to the list-manager, or even one to the list stating: My mail isn't getting through. or to another member: My mail isn't getting through, can you please forward this request for information? The address for which is. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
On 13/4/04 12:34 PM, Matthew Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A much better approach would have been to send a message to the list-manager, or even one to the list stating: My mail isn't getting through. or to another member: My mail isn't getting through, can you please forward this request for information? The address for which is. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which goes directly into that big, round cylinder that resides on the right hand edge of the dock. Just like the wamug first post rule, the cylinder's contents get emptied once a week. ;-) Just kidding, el Presidente! Does the list alert you via email that there are backlogged messages? Or does it rely on you having a look on the server? Seeya Rod!
Re: List Use - Was: Re: FW: Test please ignore!
On 13/04/2004, at 12:54 PM, Rod wrote: On 13/4/04 12:34 PM, Matthew Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A much better approach would have been to send a message to the list-manager, or even one to the list stating: My mail isn't getting through. or to another member: My mail isn't getting through, can you please forward this request for information? The address for which is. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which goes directly into that big, round cylinder that resides on the right hand edge of the dock. Just like the wamug first post rule, the cylinder's contents get emptied once a week. Oh if only! (You should have seen some of the abuse I got from having the server down for a few days while upgrading it!) ;-) Just kidding, el Presidente! Does the list alert you via email that there are backlogged messages? Or does it rely on you having a look on the server? At the moment, I have to check it manually. I am working on automating it though. - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey[EMAIL PROTECTED]
A consideration regarding first post moderation
The moderating of the the first post by a subscriber appears to be creating more problems than it is trying to solve and maybe it would be worth turning that feature off. If a week or more can go by where the first postings can go by before it is looked at, this only causes frustration and the result of test messages being posted by people. In my case I recently subscribed with a new address and it was frustrating that two messages did not appear for some time. Please Consider my suggestion. Dave Watkins
Re: A consideration regarding first post moderation
On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 16:05, David Watkins wrote: The moderating of the the first post by a subscriber appears to be creating more problems than it is trying to solve and maybe it would be worth turning that feature off. If a week or more can go by where the first postings can go by before it is looked at, this only causes frustration and the result of test messages being posted by people. A better solution would to share the approval load around between willing members. Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S38°01'05 - E145°25'10 (Upper Beaconsfield, VIC) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. Proudly supported by Skipper Trucks, Highway1, Concept AV, Sony Central, Dalcon ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - onno at itmaze dot com dot au
Re: A consideration regarding first post moderation
On 13/04/2004, at 2:05 PM, David Watkins wrote: The moderating of the the first post by a subscriber appears to be creating more problems than it is trying to solve and maybe it would be worth turning that feature off. Turning it off is not really an option. We have been subject to SPAM-n-Runs in the past. (Someone subscribes, SPAMs everyone, then leaves). I am working on speeding the process up. - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A consideration regarding first post moderation
On 13/04/2004, at 2:11 PM, Onno Benschop wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 16:05, David Watkins wrote: The moderating of the the first post by a subscriber appears to be creating more problems than it is trying to solve and maybe it would be worth turning that feature off. If a week or more can go by where the first postings can go by before it is looked at, this only causes frustration and the result of test messages being posted by people. A better solution would to share the approval load around between willing members. This is pretty much the solution that will be in place. I just need to get the time to implement it securely. - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A consideration regarding first post moderation
On 13/04/2004, at 2:11 PM, Onno Benschop wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-13 at 16:05, David Watkins wrote: The moderating of the the first post by a subscriber appears to be creating more problems than it is trying to solve and maybe it would be worth turning that feature off. If a week or more can go by where the first postings can go by before it is looked at, this only causes frustration and the result of test messages being posted by people. A better solution would to share the approval load around between willing members. This is pretty much the solution that will be in place. I just need to get the time to implement it securely. Well as a stop-gap measure, why not just send a 'welcome' email to new users informing them that their first post may be delayed because it must be moderated? That should fix most of the issues with people getting confused... without letting the SPAMmers win. Ryan
Re: A consideration regarding first post moderation
On 13/04/2004, at 4:23 PM, Ryan Schotte wrote: Well as a stop-gap measure, why not just send a 'welcome' email to new users informing them that their first post may be delayed because it must be moderated? Does anyone actually read welcome messages? - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A consideration regarding first post moderation
On 13/04/2004, at 4:23 PM, Ryan Schotte wrote: Well as a stop-gap measure, why not just send a 'welcome' email to new users informing them that their first post may be delayed because it must be moderated? Does anyone actually read welcome messages? If they're under 5 lines, I do at least? Ry
Re: Filemaker Pro question
Dean, thank you, yes the request for a possible solution went out to everyone, but addressed it specifically to Peter 'cos I know that he uses Filemaker Pro. Onno and Peter both came up with solutions, which have worked well, which involve customising the layout, as you suggest. regards, Susan. On 13/04/2004, at 3:12 PM, Dean Malcolm wrote: Hi Susan, Assuming Peter is anyone on the WAMUG list?? Perhaps you could duplicate the layout then delete or change the text colour(say to white to match the background) of the fields you do not wish to see then switch between the layouts to access the fields or hide them. Good luck Dean On 13/04/2004, at 9:24 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: Dear Peter, I am just beginning in Filemaker Pro v.7, setting up a database for research results. I am wondering if there is a quick way to be able to show/hide certain fields in the database. What I specifically want to do is to be able to include identifying material, such as names and contact details in the database as a whole, and for my own benefit, but hide these specific details when reporting on the study at a research seminar, or handing in my final dissertation results. I'm hoping that you may know of a way, I've searched the 'help' database, but doesn't seem to cover this specifically. Cheers, Susan. Susan Hastings Registered Psychologist Telephone: 9458 1551 Fax: 9458 4484 Mobile: 0409 688 004 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro --- Susan Hastings Registered Psychologist Telephone: 9458 1551 Fax: 9458 4484 Mobile: 0409 688 004
Re: A consideration regarding first post moderation
On 13/04/2004, at 4:23 PM, Ryan Schotte wrote: Well as a stop-gap measure, why not just send a 'welcome' email to new users informing them that their first post may be delayed because it must be moderated? Does anyone actually read welcome messages? If they're under 5 lines, I do at least? Especially if you just subscribed to a new list which informed you to read the important welcome email.
stats software for the mac
Hi All Im curious to know what other stats software is available for the mac, either OS 9 or OSX and its availability in Aust? I have used Statview 4. Has anyone used a later version of this software (5 I think) or the new one called JMP? thanks again for any advice Chris
WTB (older eMac) Now that the new 1.25Ghz eMacs are out...
Anyone have a older or superseded stock eMac for sale (for a friend ?) Let me know what you have ! Regards Mark PS. http://www.apple.com.au/emac/ for the new details but basically they are faster, cheaper (CDRW $1299/DVDR $1599) and the base model now has 256Mb RAM.
Problem Files
I've been having trouble with some mp3's on my computer. When iTunes tries to play them the cpu times out. If I try to copy them the cpu also times out. I thought it may have been isolated to a problem mp3 file at first when it happened. I first noticed it when I tried to copy to my iPod. This occurred a couple of months ago. Recently I noticed more mp3's behaving in the same way. There are 6 mp3's that cause trouble now. The strange thing is they worked just fine before and updated onto my iPod just fine as well. Only recently have they cause trouble for me. I thought this may be a problem isolated to iTunes but when I tried to back up my users folder I got the same problem again so it's not isolated to iTunes or mp3's. I have about 2.5 Gb left on my 20 Gb hard drive but I'm not sure if this is an issue or not. If someone can help me figure out what my problem is that would be great. Thanks Ruben A. Franke
