Re: Committee?

[Ken Woods]

As before...

They are doing such a great job.

Ken...

On 2/3/05 3:33 PM, "Shay Telfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi...
> 
> So, who are the new committee?
> 
> Have fun,
> Shay

Committee?

[Shay Telfer]

Hi...

So, who are the new committee?

Have fun,
Shay
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Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?

[Shay Telfer]

Oh what great excitement ...  8000k Adsl ??  that's 8MB just 
about enough

to run Video . so they say ?

I would suggest there are a lot of issues to be resolved before this performs
like we would like it to .
The chances of getting a copper circuit that would handle that speed
are small if they exist at all .

If it's to work a whole new approach will need to be taken ... 
Optic fibre perhaps .
but why should Telstra or anybody else rush out and instal this 
while the ACCC are

price fixing the returns .


Well, you could hope that the government sells off what's left of 
Telstra but keeps the copper and exchanges and then charges all the 
Telcos to run services over the government infrastructure. It seems 
to work for roads...


As to whether we'll see that happen...

Have fun,
Shay
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Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?

[Robert Howells]

Oh what great excitement ...  8000k Adsl ??  that's 8MB just 
about enough

to run Video . so they say ?

I would suggest there are a lot of issues to be resolved before this 
performs

like we would like it to .
The chances of getting a copper circuit that would handle that speed
are small if they exist at all .

If it's to work a whole new approach will need to be taken ...  Optic 
fibre perhaps .
but why should Telstra or anybody else rush out and instal this while 
the ACCC are

price fixing the returns .

Already we see that private enterprise does not want to expend much on 
any Dslams

at exchanges .
it's much less risky to just let Telstra be the bunny and then complain 
like mad

as though they are charging too much.

So by the time this gets OFF THE GROUND   a whole new lot of Modems
and connect boxes are likely to be on the market with a lot of new 
technolgy .


Unless you have to change , or have money burning a hole in your pocket
I suggest you wait for at least 12 months 
and 2 years would be an even better time line.

My 2 c

Bob



On 02/03/2005, at 1:01 PM, Dark Servant wrote:


Yeah that's a good point

Ruben


Hi Ruben
On 2 Mar 2005, at 10:44am, Dark Servant wrote:


Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility.
You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of 
your phone line.  The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line 
may not be able to support speeds that high.
I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should 
be relatively high.
I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is 
going to have any benefit to me.


I'd hate to imagine what I'd get up here in Mt Tarcoola. At one stage 
I could only get 32k on a 56k connection with a v90 modem. Seems ants 
are rife here and had eaten through the lines. adsl2 ants maybe would 
be tougher? I guess by the time adsl2+ is available the modem will be 
obsolete but as this is the first time on broadband, and with adsl2 
imminent in my understanding, I'd rather get the latest equipment and 
know it wasn't the weakest link.


Regards
Reg


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Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?

[Dark Servant]

Yeah that's a good point

Ruben


Hi Ruben
On 2 Mar 2005, at 10:44am, Dark Servant wrote:


Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility.
You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of 
your phone line.  The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line 
may not be able to support speeds that high.
I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should 
be relatively high.
I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is 
going to have any benefit to me.


I'd hate to imagine what I'd get up here in Mt Tarcoola. At one stage 
I could only get 32k on a 56k connection with a v90 modem. Seems ants 
are rife here and had eaten through the lines. adsl2 ants maybe would 
be tougher? I guess by the time adsl2+ is available the modem will be 
obsolete but as this is the first time on broadband, and with adsl2 
imminent in my understanding, I'd rather get the latest equipment and 
know it wasn't the weakest link.


Regards
Reg


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Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?

[Reg Whitely]

Hi Ruben
On 2 Mar 2005, at 10:44am, Dark Servant wrote:


Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility.
You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of 
your phone line.  The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line may 
not be able to support speeds that high.
I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should 
be relatively high.
I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is 
going to have any benefit to me.


I'd hate to imagine what I'd get up here in Mt Tarcoola. At one stage I 
could only get 32k on a 56k connection with a v90 modem. Seems ants are 
rife here and had eaten through the lines. adsl2 ants maybe would be 
tougher? I guess by the time adsl2+ is available the modem will be 
obsolete but as this is the first time on broadband, and with adsl2 
imminent in my understanding, I'd rather get the latest equipment and 
know it wasn't the weakest link.


Regards
Reg

Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?

[Dark Servant]

Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility.
You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of 
your phone line.  The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line may 
not be able to support speeds that high.
I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should be 
relatively high.
I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is 
going to have any benefit to me.


Ruben A. Franke


Christof

On 1 Mar 2005, at 11:08pm, Christof S. wrote:

Hi all,
I've been unable to find out whether my old Netgear DG824M "Wireless 
ADSL
Modem Gateway" will support the new 8Mb iinet broadband2 plans. If it 
will

support the new protocol, will the modem function at >1.5Mb?
I would appreciate any light shed on this topic.


I've been doing some research for modem.routers that will support 
coming adsl2 and 2+

I'm not sure if this is of any help but here goes anyway.

Here's a link for your device. I believe the 824M is not upgradeable I 
but the DG834 (v2) is.
http://www.ozcableguy.com/netgear1.html#dg824m and 
http://www.ozcableguy.com/routers.html


You may already have looked here
http://www.netgear.com.au/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=165&view=
There is a downloadable .pdf of specs there too.

These are interesting too:
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2004/q2/netgear-dg834.asp
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=303976&p=-1

Here are 4 that are compatible, as posted to this list several days 
ago. I'm going to try the Billion:

ADSL, ADSL2 and ADSL2+ (Incl) Compatible Modem/Routers
Billion 7402			2 yr warranty ADSL speed 8mbps to 30 with ADSL2+ 
$190-250

Netgear DG834 (v2)  1 yr warranty don't know speeds$130 - $190
DLink 504T			 May not be here yet but is ADSL2 and 2+ compatible 8mbps 
with adsl other unknown

Zyxel Prestige 660H ADSL2 speed 12, ADSL2+ speed 24
Other
Netcomm NB 5 looks good but is only usb and single ethernet. Perhaps 
others are on their way.


Hope that is of use.

regards

Reg


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Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?

[Reg Whitely]

Christof

On 1 Mar 2005, at 11:08pm, Christof S. wrote:

Hi all,
I've been unable to find out whether my old Netgear DG824M "Wireless 
ADSL
Modem Gateway" will support the new 8Mb iinet broadband2 plans. If it 
will

support the new protocol, will the modem function at >1.5Mb?
I would appreciate any light shed on this topic.


I've been doing some research for modem.routers that will support 
coming adsl2 and 2+

I'm not sure if this is of any help but here goes anyway.

Here's a link for your device. I believe the 824M is not upgradeable I 
but the DG834 (v2) is.
http://www.ozcableguy.com/netgear1.html#dg824m and 
http://www.ozcableguy.com/routers.html


You may already have looked here
http://www.netgear.com.au/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=165&view=
There is a downloadable .pdf of specs there too.

These are interesting too:
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2004/q2/netgear-dg834.asp
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=303976&p=-1

Here are 4 that are compatible, as posted to this list several days 
ago. I'm going to try the Billion:

ADSL, ADSL2 and ADSL2+ (Incl) Compatible Modem/Routers
Billion 74022 yr warranty ADSL speed 8mbps to 30 with 
ADSL2+ $190-250
Netgear DG834 (v2)  1 yr warranty don't know speeds$130 - $190
DLink 504T			 May not be here yet but is ADSL2 and 2+ compatible 8mbps 
with adsl other unknown

Zyxel Prestige 660H ADSL2 speed 12, ADSL2+ speed 24
Other
Netcomm NB 5 looks good but is only usb and single ethernet. Perhaps 
others are on their way.


Hope that is of use.

regards

Reg

keeping photo titles from iphoto in iDVD slide show

[Rob Findlay]

Does anyone know if this is possible? I notice that when you create a 
DVD from iphoto you lose the titles of the photos.

Cheers
Rob