Keynotes downloadable from iTMS

2006-01-13 Thread Nicholas Pyers
Many messages similar to the following always appear on various  
mailing lists and web forums just after the Keynotes given by Steve Jobs
If anyone can download a copy of the Steve Jobs 2006 Macworld  
Keynote which

can be watched here:
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/jan/mw2006/m_mw_2006_350_ref.mov

Apparently, you cannot save it to hard disc--but maybe there is a
workaround? We would like to show it to the group at our meeting  
this week.


But unfortunately Apple do not provide a downloadable version, only  
the streamed version.


Which I found rather surprising when you consider Apple have the best  
downloadable video distribution service out there in the form

of the iTunes Music (Media) Store ;)

How many people here would be prepared to pay US$1.99 (or AUD$3.39,  
or what the local price) for a downloadable version of various Apple  
Keynotes, just hours after the event itself.


Sure the quality from iTMS would be lower then the streamed versions  
- I believe the streamed versions are now available in HD while the  
standard format for iTMS is 320x240 pixels.  Not the best but  
acceptable.


Perhaps if we all wrote to Apple via their Feedback Form found at  
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html (which can also be  
accessed from the Provide Feedback option under the iTunes menu in  
iTunes itself) requesting they add the keynotes to the iTMS they may  
actually do this.


I have just done so,  setting the Request Type of Request Artist  
and suggested that artist be Steve Jobs and stating that many  
people on various mailing lists and web forum often enquire about  
obtaining a downloadable version.


If YOU would be interested in getting a downloadable version of the  
Apple Keynotes (this one or even future ones) then please take a few  
minutes to use the Request Music feedback form and we may just get  
what we want ;)


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Re: Airport

2006-01-13 Thread Ronda Brown


On 12/01/2006, at 9:11 PM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:

Like Houston I have a problem :-(  I have a Netgear  wireless  
router DG834G and an Airport Express which cover my house for the  
laptops :-)  They have worked well esp. since I got the netgear  
router. Now all of a sudden neither appear to be working, maybe  
because I HAVE 10.4.4In the place of the usual airport bars I  
have  a tree with greyed out bars behind.Can someone make any  
sensible suggestions. Both laptops have the same thing and both  
work on ethernet.  JiWire shows nothing in the way of signal. BTW  
cant wait to see my mates who mocked me when I bought appleshares :-)

Mac


Hi Mac,

Have you tried restarting your Router  Airport Express?

 Check is the AirPort port  selected. Open System Preferences, then  
click Network. Choose Active Network Ports from the Show pop-up menu,  
then make sure the AirPort checkbox is selected.


Also Open Internet Connect and make sure AirPort is turned on.

Restart your base station by unplugging and plugging in, then try the  
connection again.


  If you are still unable to connect  go to :
Applications  Utilities  Airport Admin Utility
Highlight your Network
Click 'Configure'
Click 'Restart'

Cheers,
Ronni



RSS Feeds

2006-01-13 Thread Rod Blitvich
Sorry -I'm a bit slow on the uptake.

To view and subscribe? to RSS Feeds:
Do I need a separate application (Newsreader)
If so what do you recommend? Free?
Can I not do it through Safari or Firefox?
I am on 10.3.9

ta
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Re: Software Update Dilemma

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 12/01/2006, at 9:14 AM, Reg Whitely wrote:


Thanks Ronni, Peter and others

I think my biggest dilemma is that I can't read, or do Maths!  
What's the difference between 6 and 7 you may well ask!
Ok I already had QT Pro 7.0.3, and the update to 7.0.4 has brought  
no problems. I'm still registered for Pro. For some silly reason I  
thought I had QT 6 and that this was a new major release. (Intel on  
the brain?)


This may have been exacerbated by the inclusion of a statement in the  
notes for QT on Software Update that QT Pro users will need to  
purchase a new code. The note fails to point out that this can be  
ignored if you already have QT 7. Apple could make this more clear.  
The current wording is certainly confusing if read quickly.


Now not to panic until Quicktime 8 comes along. I've downloaded and  
installed iTunes through software updater, also 10.4.4 and  
PowerBook battery update. All seems to be working Ok.


You might like to read this though, brought to my attention on the  
maced list:


iTunes has spyware?
http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/editors/2006/01/ministore/ 
index.php?lsrc=mw

rss


The current version of this carries a disclaimer that the original  
article was in error.


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Re: Airport

2006-01-13 Thread Michael Parker
I think Ronda's suggestion will probably work.

If not, you can try another approach which is to run a
permissions repair.

If that still doesn't work.

download the combo update from apple.  

http://wsidecar.apple.com/cgi-bin/nph-reg3rdpty1.pl/product=09364cat=1platform=osxmethod=sa/MacOSXUpdateCombo10.4.4.dmg
(120 megs)

and remove the reciepts from previous updates related
to the OS in /Library/reciepts.

Install the combo update and run a permissions repair.

I've found that some problems can be fixed, simply by
installing a combo update over the current system and
running a permissions repair.  I noticed a problem
with airport that this seemed to fix in 10.4.2

Mike





--- Ronda Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On 12/01/2006, at 9:11 PM, McCallum Malcolm wrote:
 
  Like Houston I have a problem :-(  I have a
 Netgear  wireless  
  router DG834G and an Airport Express which cover
 my house for the  
  laptops :-)  They have worked well esp. since I
 got the netgear  
  router. Now all of a sudden neither appear to be
 working, maybe  
  because I HAVE 10.4.4In the place of the usual
 airport bars I  
  have  a tree with greyed out bars behind.Can
 someone make any  
  sensible suggestions. Both laptops have the same
 thing and both  
  work on ethernet.  JiWire shows nothing in the way
 of signal. BTW  
  cant wait to see my mates who mocked me when I
 bought appleshares :-)
  Mac
 
 Hi Mac,
 
 Have you tried restarting your Router  Airport
 Express?
 
   Check is the AirPort port  selected. Open System
 Preferences, then  
 click Network. Choose Active Network Ports from the
 Show pop-up menu,  
 then make sure the AirPort checkbox is selected.
 
 Also Open Internet Connect and make sure AirPort is
 turned on.
 
 Restart your base station by unplugging and plugging
 in, then try the  
 connection again.


If you are still unable to connect  go to :
  Applications  Utilities  Airport Admin
 Utility
 Highlight your Network
 Click 'Configure'
 Click 'Restart'
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
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Re: RSS Feeds

2006-01-13 Thread Stewart Woods


On 13/01/2006, at 8:16 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


To view and subscribe? to RSS Feeds:
Do I need a separate application (Newsreader)


not necessarily



If so what do you recommend? Free?


Try Netnewswire lite http://ranchero.com/netnewswire/


Can I not do it through Safari or Firefox?
I am on 10.3.9


I belive you need 10.4 to do RSS with Safari

HTH
Stew



Re: snailmail thingy

2006-01-13 Thread Mervyn Giuliana Bond

Use Appleworks database and its custom labels facility.
Merv

At 4:57 PM +0800 12/1/06, Paul Weaver wrote:

Does anyone know of a really simple OSX freeware ap. to generate less than
40 postal address labels?  (For a school music group.)

Kind regards, Paul.


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Re: OS X 10.4.3 or 4.4

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 12/01/2006, at 6:53 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Muggers

On the apple site for downloads it has 10.4.4 for download and says  
it requires 10.4.3 to do it. I am running 10.4.2 and have tried 4  
times to download 4.3 with the files stopping about half way and  
chewing up my broadband account. Is there a local site I can get  
this update that is stable? (G5 dual 2ghz). Is there a 4.4 combo  
that does it? I would rather get the file download as I have a  
couple of machines to update including powerbooks


the macworld show was just great. These new processors sound really  
grunty and all the new updates to ilife and iwork are great too.




There is a combo updater available at

http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1044combo.html

It's pretty hefty at 120Mb

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OT (humor) The Office for IT workers?

2006-01-13 Thread Mark Secker

from the writer of Father Ted and Black Books

could be interesting. or it could be too painfully real - like 
This is Spinal Tap was to rock musicians


http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/
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Re: macbooks firewire 400 only?

2006-01-13 Thread Rob Davies


On 11/01/2006, at 11:35 AM, Jude wrote:


Hi all

Does anyone have any insights into why the new Macbooks ship with  
firewire 400 only?


I would suspect because DV cameras are still in the Firewire 400 mode  
and the dominant OS still not taking up Firewire 800.  P2 memory  
Sticks seem to be the next generation for transferring digitised  
media (Although the PCMCIA has gone too?). Also with SATA drives  
being the major external mode of operation for above said OS with  
external HD and faster transfer speeds. I do believe although not  
confirmed, but their are Express card devices that will run SATA at  
it's full potential so Raids etc can be configured and Firewire 800  
could be initialised via same process although manufacturer I spoke  
to said SATA is more viable than Firewire 800.


This machine looks to be an excellent mobile editing system, but..  
no firewire 800? Is there something new or coming up that I don't  
know about here..?


Powerbooks have always been, and still are a great editing system.

Maybe in the next format of MacBooks with larger screens it could be  
offered although as suggested above SATA for HardDrives could be a  
better and cheaper option.




cheers
Jude


One small point I have noticed which could be more detrimental to  
Digital Professionals is the PCMCIA adapter slot is gone.


Cheers!
`Rob...



Re: OS X 10.4.3 or 4.4

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Hinchliffe


On 13/01/2006, at 10:47 AM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi Pete

Thanks very much for the info pete. I also checked with the guys at  
Joondalup and they said the combo version usually arrives a few  
days after the straight update version. Nick also said if I use  
software update, I can choose to download and keep the software  
package as well which would save me doing 3 updates! It is in the  
'update' menu of software update! A nice tip to use in future that  
I didnt know about.




Yep. I use this option all the time (at least all the times I  
remember to   :-) ). How much nicer it would be if it could be made a  
default option by clicking something in System Preferences!


BTW - the downloads arrive in /Library/Packages...

Cheers,

Peter



Keyboard backlighting

2006-01-13 Thread Edward Arrowsmith
Even though I have illuminate keyboard in low light conditions turned  
in in the system preferences my backlighting is not working. It was  
happening prior to updating to 10.4.4


Any ideas please?

15 PowerBook 1.5GHz 1G RAM 10.4.4

thanks and Best wishes
edward 


Windows Media Player R.I.P.

2006-01-13 Thread Peter Hinchliffe
Micro$oft have stopped development on Windows Media Player for the  
Mac, according to this article:


http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/175804019

Instead, users are re-directed to a freeware version of Flip4Mac.

All I can say is... What A Relief!

As far as I could see, M$ had to either improve the darn thing out of  
all sight, or kill it completely. I think death was the kinder  
option. Flip4Mac is a fantastic alternative, especially if you have  
Quicktime Pro.



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Re: macbooks firewire 400 only?

2006-01-13 Thread Jude

Powerbooks have always been, and still are a great editing system.


Straight cutting sure, but not if you're doing any kind of complex 
compositing or anything higher than DV - it just didn't have the 
grunt (or space) to be a professional machine.


Maybe in the next format of MacBooks with larger screens it could 
be offered although as suggested above SATA for HardDrives could be 
a better and cheaper option.


SATA RAIDs would be great. And yeah - more screen space, but then, 
the whole point of the laptop is its portability, not its power, or 
comfort levels as a day-to-day rig.


Re: macbooks firewire 400 only?

2006-01-13 Thread Mark Secker
I think the  articles in Apple Pro like 
http://www.apple.com/pro/video/niles/ summed it up.


laptops  for rough cuts and daily rushes (which may be enough for 
release in some situations)

but 
desktop for final cut release work



Powerbooks have always been, and still are a great editing system.


Straight cutting sure, but not if you're doing any kind of complex 
compositing or anything higher than DV - it just didn't have the 
grunt (or space) to be a professional machine.


Maybe in the next format of MacBooks with larger screens it could 
be offered although as suggested above SATA for HardDrives could 
be a better and cheaper option.


SATA RAIDs would be great. And yeah - more screen space, but then, 
the whole point of the laptop is its portability, not its power, or 
comfort levels as a day-to-day rig.


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Tiger Networking

2006-01-13 Thread Neil Houghton
Many thanks to Craig, Ronda, Greg  others who passed on so much info on the
recent networking for idiots thread - I now have a much clearer idea on how
this all works (I think/hope!).

I have now come across another area where Tiger seems to behave differently
- it may be my settings but I think it is more that some networking features
have been changed in Tiger.

The problem came when I tried to connect to my G4 400MHz Ti Powerbook,
running OS 9.1.

Whilst my G4 iMac (running 10.2.8) would connect OK the new G5 iMac (running
10.4.3) would see the powerbook but attempting to connect would give the
error message
 Connection failed
This file server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You
cannot connect to it..

I should say that I normally have my powerbook set-up to access the internet
via dial-up so TCP/IP is set to connect via PPP. Previously with my G4 iMac
I had found that the iMac could see and connect to the powerbook but
although the powerbook could see the iMac it would not connect to it. After
much searching of the Apple knowledge base and other sites, I found that the
reason was that the although the OSX iMac could connect to shared volumes
via Appletalk, it would only allow access to it's shared volumes via TCP/IP.

I found that if I set TCP/IP on the powerbook to connect via ethernet (and
set up the addresses manually) I could connect to the iMac - though then I
could not connect to the internet!

I have lived with this by having two locations set up on the powerbook - one
for internet with TCP/IP set to PPP and one for two-way file sharing with
TCP/IP set to ethernet. Whilst annoying, this has not been too bad because
for most purposes I could leave the powebook set for internet and do any
file management from the iMac. On the rare occasions when I needed to mount
the iMac shared volume on the Powerbook (rather than the other way around) I
would temporarily change locations on the Powerbook.

However given the error message I get when trying to access the powerbook
from the new G5 iMac, Tiger no longer can access shared volumes over
Appletalk - although you can apparently turn Appletalk on  off ??!
When I changed TCP/IP on the powerbook to connect via Ethernet, Tiger would
then connect and mount the shared volume.

Could anyone confirm that my understanding is correct here - or do I just
need to alter some setting somewhare to allow Tiger to connect via Appletalk
while the powerbook is set up with TCP/IP to connect via PPP as I can do
with Jaguar.

Cheers


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Re: Keyboard backlighting

2006-01-13 Thread James Devenish
Hi

On 13/01/06, Edward Arrowsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Even though I have illuminate keyboard in low light conditions turned
 in in the system preferences my backlighting is not working. It was
 happening prior to updating to 10.4.4

Have you tried any obvious measures yet, like checking the backlight
brightness? Perhaps it is possible that the brightness can be zero
despite the illuminate keybaord option? Perhaps you could induce
low light conditions (e.g., by covering both the left and right
light sensors / speaker grilles with books), then you can use your
keyboard buttons to adjust your backlight brightness and see if that
makes a difference or not?


Re: Tiger Networking

2006-01-13 Thread Ronda Brown


On 13/01/2006, at 1:00 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:

Many thanks to Craig, Ronda, Greg  others who passed on so much  
info on the
recent networking for idiots thread - I now have a much clearer  
idea on how

this all works (I think/hope!).

I have now come across another area where Tiger seems to behave  
differently
- it may be my settings but I think it is more that some networking  
features

have been changed in Tiger.

The problem came when I tried to connect to my G4 400MHz Ti Powerbook,
running OS 9.1.

Whilst my G4 iMac (running 10.2.8) would connect OK the new G5 iMac  
(running
10.4.3) would see the powerbook but attempting to connect would  
give the

error message
 Connection failed
This file server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You
cannot connect to it..

I should say that I normally have my powerbook set-up to access the  
internet
via dial-up so TCP/IP is set to connect via PPP. Previously with my  
G4 iMac

I had found that the iMac could see and connect to the powerbook but
although the powerbook could see the iMac it would not connect to  
it. After
much searching of the Apple knowledge base and other sites, I found  
that the
reason was that the although the OSX iMac could connect to shared  
volumes
via Appletalk, it would only allow access to it's shared volumes  
via TCP/IP.


I found that if I set TCP/IP on the powerbook to connect via  
ethernet (and
set up the addresses manually) I could connect to the iMac - though  
then I

could not connect to the internet!

I have lived with this by having two locations set up on the  
powerbook - one
for internet with TCP/IP set to PPP and one for two-way file  
sharing with
TCP/IP set to ethernet. Whilst annoying, this has not been too bad  
because
for most purposes I could leave the powebook set for internet and  
do any
file management from the iMac. On the rare occasions when I needed  
to mount
the iMac shared volume on the Powerbook (rather than the other way  
around) I

would temporarily change locations on the Powerbook.

However given the error message I get when trying to access the  
powerbook

from the new G5 iMac, Tiger no longer can access shared volumes over
Appletalk - although you can apparently turn Appletalk on  off ??!
When I changed TCP/IP on the powerbook to connect via Ethernet,  
Tiger would

then connect and mount the shared volume.

Could anyone confirm that my understanding is correct here - or do  
I just
need to alter some setting somewhare to allow Tiger to connect via  
Appletalk
while the powerbook is set up with TCP/IP to connect via PPP as I  
can do

with Jaguar.



Hi Neil,

From what I understand about file sharing between different OS':

Mac OS 9, and Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.3.9 support file sharing (AFP)  
connections over AppleTalk.
However, Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.0.4  and 10.4 and later can  
only connect to AppleShare over TCP/IP.


 Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can both connect over TCP/IP without AppleTalk.

Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't support Personal File Sharing (or other  
AFP) over Appletalk, though by initiating the connection from the  
opposite direction you could still achieve an IP connection from a  
Mac OS 9 computer to a sharing Mac OS X computer.
The Network preference pane in Mac OS X 10.4 and later still offers  
the AppleTalk checkbox, but it is for browsing AppleTalk-advertised  
resources and zones.

The subsequent connection must be over TCP/IP.

Hope I haven't confused you more.

Cheers,
Ronni


Re: Tiger Networking

2006-01-13 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi again Neil,

On 13/01/2006, at 1:00 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:


The problem came when I tried to connect to my G4 400MHz Ti Powerbook,
running OS 9.1.

Whilst my G4 iMac (running 10.2.8) would connect OK the new G5 iMac  
(running
10.4.3) would see the powerbook but attempting to connect would  
give the

error message
 Connection failed
This file server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You
cannot connect to it..


Following up my previous email:
If you try to connect to an AppleTalk-only AFP server from a Mac OS X  
10.4 Tiger computer, this message will appear:


Connection failed. This file server uses an incompatible version of  
the AFP protocol. You cannot connect to it.
This happens because Tiger no longer supports connecting to AFP over  
the AppleTalk protocol.


As a solution, enable the TCP/IP protocol on the AFP server if it  
offers this option. If no TCP/IP option is available, connect to the  
Tiger computer from the computer that is the AppleTalk-only AFP  
server (instead of trying to connect from the Tiger computer to  
connect to the older computer). This method works because AppleShare  
client software on the older computer can connect to a Tiger computer  
over TCP/IP, even if it can't offer service over TCP/IP.


Cheers,

Ronni


Re: Windows Media Player R.I.P.

2006-01-13 Thread Matthew Healey

On 13/01/2006, at 11:55 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

Micro$oft have stopped development on Windows Media Player for the  
Mac, according to this article:


http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/175804019

Instead, users are re-directed to a freeware version of Flip4Mac.

All I can say is... What A Relief!


Now all we need is for Real to follow suit and all will be good!

- Matt

(BTW Peter, come and grab your eskys)


Re: Windows Media Player R.I.P.

2006-01-13 Thread Mike MOORE

G'day all

I was foolish enough to download and install.  Now QuickTime  
constantly crashes.


Don't go there!


mike moore


On 13/01/2006, at 3:22 PM, Matthew Healey wrote:


On 13/01/2006, at 11:55 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

Micro$oft have stopped development on Windows Media Player for the  
Mac, according to this article:


http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/175804019

Instead, users are re-directed to a freeware version of Flip4Mac.

All I can say is... What A Relief!


Now all we need is for Real to follow suit and all will be good!

- Matt

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Re: Windows Media Player R.I.P.

2006-01-13 Thread Reg Whitely

Try this Mike
http://www.flip4mac.com/faqs_wmv.htm#1
I upgraded to QuickTime v7.0.4 and now QuickTime crashes when I use  
Flip4Mac WMV
There is a compatibility issue with QuickTime v 7.0.4.  Please  
download Flip4Mac WMV v2.0.1 now.  This version resolves the  
compatibility issue with QuickTime v7.0.4.


Reg

On 13 Jan 2006, at 5:18pm, Mike MOORE wrote:


G'day all

I was foolish enough to download and install.  Now QuickTime  
constantly crashes.


Don't go there!


mike moore


Re: Windows Media Player R.I.P.

2006-01-13 Thread Ronda Brown

Installed Flip4Mac 'Windows Media Components for Quicktime' on OSX10.4.4
Quicktime 7.0.4 and no problems here.

Ronni





On 13/01/2006, at 5:18 PM, Mike MOORE wrote:


G'day all

I was foolish enough to download and install.  Now QuickTime  
constantly crashes.


Don't go there!


mike moore


On 13/01/2006, at 3:22 PM, Matthew Healey wrote:


On 13/01/2006, at 11:55 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:

Micro$oft have stopped development on Windows Media Player for  
the Mac, according to this article:


http://www.techweb.com/wire/software/175804019

Instead, users are re-directed to a freeware version of Flip4Mac.

All I can say is... What A Relief!


Now all we need is for Real to follow suit and all will be good!

- Matt

(BTW Peter, come and grab your eskys)

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24 hour time in excel

2006-01-13 Thread Chris Burton

Hi waymuggers

I have a time calculation problem I've being trying to resolve for  
the past 4 hours, and my brain now hurts a lot!.
I have two excel files filled with 9000 records from a gps in which  
the time was set to be 8 hours behind. If I add 8 hrs to those  
records with the time after midnight (eg 0:00:25) for example, starts  
the day at 8:00:25. But the records with time prior to midnight (eg  
22:15:25 ends up at 30:15:25). For the life of me I cant figure it  
out, even after doing some googling. Can someone with good brain  
cells please help me?


kindest regards

chris




Re: 24 hour time in excel

2006-01-13 Thread James Devenish
Hi Chris,

On 13/01/06, Chris Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I add 8 hrs to those  records with the time after midnight (eg 0:00:25)
 for example, starts  the day at 8:00:25. But the records with time prior to
 midnight (eg  22:15:25 ends up at 30:15:25).

I am not familiar with how Excel handles dates, but two general
solutions come to mind. One is to see if Excel can be told that the
dates are in UTC or GMT time so that it can do the calculation itself.
Alternatively, you know that the hour must be between 0 and 23, thus
it adheres to the function MOD(original_hour + 8, 24).


Re: 24 hour time in excel

2006-01-13 Thread Warren Jones

Hi Chris
All times are stored as fractions of a day.
So you need to do as James suggested (if you have hours separately  
stored) or do something like


Assuming you have orig time in Col A, time + 8:00 in Col B, make a  
col C with the following formula...


=IF(B1=1,B1-1,B1)
(to subtract 1 day off when the clock ticks over

Or you could combine with your timezone correction calcs

woz


On 13/01/2006, at 6:24 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi waymuggers

I have a time calculation problem I've being trying to resolve for  
the past 4 hours, and my brain now hurts a lot!.
I have two excel files filled with 9000 records from a gps in which  
the time was set to be 8 hours behind. If I add 8 hrs to those  
records with the time after midnight (eg 0:00:25) for example,  
starts the day at 8:00:25. But the records with time prior to  
midnight (eg 22:15:25 ends up at 30:15:25). For the life of me I  
cant figure it out, even after doing some googling. Can someone  
with good brain cells please help me?


kindest regards

chris



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