Re: Apple supports booting XP

[Brett Carboni]

On 05/04/2006, at 10:32 PM, Rod wrote:


Christian Kotz wrote:

I just can't wait to see Apple's next switch ads:

" I use to use Windows then I found Mac OS X... Now I find myself  
back in Windows... but with a prettier case"


Is it considered backsliding??


I think it is half way towards Steve's end-game. Running the OSX on  
any PC. A true competitor to Windows.


Bill Gates must be worried.

My 5¢ worth :-)

Brett Carboni
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Re: Apple supports booting XP

[Michael Parker]

hmm..

The games bit is very true.  And as a gamer it is of
constant annoyance that only some of the best games
are released on the mac.  This is made more annoying
by noticing that the apple stores are carrying more
ipods than software these days.  The only reprieve to
this is hearing the windows guys talking about how
they keep having to reboot their machines or the
mysterious slowness that they experience.  

If Apple writes the drivers, then maybe this wouldn't
be such an issue.  Compared with the current choices,
this is great.  Virtual PC is as slow as a two legged
dog on barbituates (and yet, greatly improved from
previous versions) and prone to breaking whenever a
new os comes out. 

Another way to sell more macs?  Another way to sell
more copies of windows?  Another way to get people to
try to switch?  In general I think it's good, but I'm
not sure if I want to swear at my Mac when I get a
blue screen.


Mike


--- Rod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Christian Kotz wrote:
> > I just can't wait to see Apple's next switch ads:
> >
> > " I use to use Windows then I found Mac OS X...
> Now I find myself back 
> > in Windows... but with a prettier case"
> >
> > Is it considered backsliding??
> >
> > Why is it XP specific though? Is it to do with the
> formatting of the 
> > "elegant disk utility"
> >
> > Regards Christian 
> 
> XP SP2 has the latest drivers for today's hardware,
> whereas the older 
> versions of Windows may not run. Plus, most modern
> software is written 
> for XP, and the drivers for the graphics and sound
> cards in the Intel 
> macs only have to be written for XP (there are
> different drivers for 
> different versions of Windows).
> 
> What this does provide is brilliant marketing for
> Apple, both hardware 
> and software. Hardware wise, people can compare
> directly the speed of a 
> Mac to a comparable PC. Software is a no brainer -
> people can see how OS 
> X rocks over XP on the same hardware.
> 
> And one other thing - games :-) There is a distinct
> lack of Intel ready 
> games for the Mac, while there are tons of games for
> the PC, where 
> probably 90% will never be ported to the Mac anyway.
> 
> Seeya
> 
> Rod!
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Re: Apple supports booting XP

[Rod]

Michael Parker wrote:

hmm..

The games bit is very true.  And as a gamer it is of
constant annoyance that only some of the best games
are released on the mac.  This is made more annoying
by noticing that the apple stores are carrying more
ipods than software these days.  The only reprieve to
this is hearing the windows guys talking about how
they keep having to reboot their machines or the
mysterious slowness that they experience.  
  


You *can* lock down a Windows box (requires the thing to be setup 
properly well before conencting an ethernet cable!).  It requires the 
kind of vigilance that is missing from most of the Mac community when it 
comes to Malware, so in some ways in might be a good experience :-)


BTW, last quarter iPods created more revenue for Apple than Macs for the 
first time in Apple's history.



If Apple writes the drivers, then maybe this wouldn't
be such an issue.  Compared with the current choices,
this is great.  Virtual PC is as slow as a two legged
dog on barbituates (and yet, greatly improved from
previous versions) and prone to breaking whenever a
new os comes out. 


Another way to sell more macs?  Another way to sell
more copies of windows?  Another way to get people to
try to switch?  In general I think it's good, but I'm
not sure if I want to swear at my Mac when I get a
blue screen.
  


This issue is running hot on most of the Mac forums.  Most people are 
for, a few against.  In some ways I see it as a short term patch for 
non-native software for the Intel macs.  Photoshop seems to spring to 
mind straight away!  And Adobe will bring it to the Mac for CS3.  There 
are a lot of design shops that won't have converted to Intel Macs by the 
time CS3 ships, so they will have to ship a Universal version.  I'm sure 
at WWDC Apple will be ramming home the point about how much better it is 
to develop in Cocoa compared to whatever MS is pushing this month :-)  
Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple didn't start evangelising to 
software developers again like they did when the Mac first came out 
(google Guy Kawasaki).


The real test is games.  Will Mac owners just purchase the PC version 
and run it in Windows?  And let the Mac games industry die a slow 
death?  I guess the first start is to get some parity in pricing.  If 
you can buy the Sims on the platinum range for $20 on the PC, why spend 
$70 for the Mac version?  I guess it will be up to the Mac game 
developers to make their versions better!  Anyway, you still have to 
reboot to play a game.  Who can be bothered?


;-)

Very interesting times ahead.  Masterstroke from Apple in my book.

Seeya

Rod!

New version of the Mac/Intel ad

[Rod]

:-)  I love the ending!

Seeya

Rod!

re: Apple supports booting XP

[Laurie McDonald]

Hi all

This is what our old friend Garner Annett has put out, somewhat more 
detail that the original web item from Apple. But my dull brain can't 
fathom why one needs a blank CD or DVD.


Apple Introduces Boot Camp

Public Beta Software Enables Intel-based Macs to Run Windows XP 
CUPERTINO,

California April 5, 2006Apple today introduced Boot Camp, public beta
software that enables Intel-based Macs to run Windows XP. Available as a
download beginning today, Boot Camp allows users with a Microsoft 
Windows

XP installation disc to install Windows XP on an Intel-based Mac, and
once installation is complete, users can restart their computer to run
either Mac OS X or Windows XP. Boot Camp will be a feature in  Leopard,
Apples next major release of Mac OS X, that will be previewed at Apple
s Worldwide Developer Conference in August.

Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many 
customers
have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple s superior 
hardware

now that we use Intel processors,  said Philip Schiller, Apple s senior
vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing.  We think Boot Camp makes
the Mac even more appealing to

Windows users considering making the switch.

Boot Camp simplifies Windows installation on an Intel-based Mac by
providing a simple graphical step-by-step assistant application to
dynamically create a second partition on the hard drive for Windows, to
burn a CD with all the necessary Windows drivers, and to install Windows
from a Windows XP installation CD. After installation is complete,
users can choose to run either Mac OS X or Windows when they restart
their computer.

Pricing & Availability
The public beta of Boot Camp is available immediately as a download at
www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp, and is preview software licensed for use
on a trial basis for a limited time. The final version of Boot Camp
will be available as a feature in the upcoming Mac OS X version 10.5
Leopard. Apple does not provide support for installing or running Boot
Camp and does not sell or support Microsoft Windows software. Apple
welcomes user feedback on Boot Camp at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

System Requirements
Boot Camp requires an Intel-based Mac with a USB keyboard and mouse,
or a built-in keyboard and TrackPad; Mac OS X version 10.4.6 or
later; the latest firmware update; at least 10GB of free space on the
startup disk; a blank recordable CD or DVD; and single-disc version
of Windows XP Home Edition or Professional with Service Pack 2 or later.
Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the
Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the
Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation
with its award-winning desktop and notebook computers, OS X operating
system, and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also
spearheading the digital music revolution with its iPod portable
music players and iTunes online music store.

Garner Annett
Account Executive
Higher Education, Corporate & Government
Apple Computer Australia Pty. Ltd.

Apple Computer Australia Pty. Ltd.
4th Floor, 16 St. Georges Tce
Perth WA 6000 AUSTRALIA

Re: Apple supports booting XP

[Christian Kotz]

The CD is for your mac to burn the appropriate Hardware drivers for  
Windows onto the CD from the Boot Camp utility. Once you install XP  
on the Windows Partition, boot it, put in the now no-longer blank CD  
and it instantly installs the Windows drivers. Its kinda like the  
Virtual PC additions installation and is needed for the  Mac to make  
up for hardware differences like an eject button on CD drives and  
other little issues like brightness controls for iMacs


Are the Bluetooth Keyboard and Mouse supported? All I'm reading is an  
Apple USB keyboard and Mouse are required


Regards Christian
On 06/04/2006, at 9:41 AM, Laurie McDonald wrote:


Hi all

This is what our old friend Garner Annett has put out, somewhat  
more detail that the original web item from Apple. But my dull  
brain can't fathom why one needs a blank CD or DVD.


Apple Introduces Boot Camp

Public Beta Software Enables Intel-based Macs to Run Windows XP  
CUPERTINO,

California April 5, 2006Apple today introduced Boot Camp, public beta
software that enables Intel-based Macs to run Windows XP. Available  
as a
download beginning today, Boot Camp allows users with a Microsoft  
Windows

XP installation disc to install Windows XP on an Intel-based Mac, and
once installation is complete, users can restart their computer to run
either Mac OS X or Windows XP. Boot Camp will be a feature in   
Leopard,

Apples next major release of Mac OS X, that will be previewed at Apple
s Worldwide Developer Conference in August.

Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows, but many  
customers
have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple s superior  
hardware
now that we use Intel processors,  said Philip Schiller, Apple s  
senior
vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing.  We think Boot Camp  
makes

the Mac even more appealing to

Windows users considering making the switch.

Boot Camp simplifies Windows installation on an Intel-based Mac by
providing a simple graphical step-by-step assistant application to
dynamically create a second partition on the hard drive for  
Windows, to
burn a CD with all the necessary Windows drivers, and to install  
Windows

from a Windows XP installation CD. After installation is complete,
users can choose to run either Mac OS X or Windows when they restart
their computer.

Pricing & Availability
The public beta of Boot Camp is available immediately as a download at
www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp, and is preview software licensed for  
use

on a trial basis for a limited time. The final version of Boot Camp
will be available as a feature in the upcoming Mac OS X version 10.5
Leopard. Apple does not provide support for installing or running Boot
Camp and does not sell or support Microsoft Windows software. Apple
welcomes user feedback on Boot Camp at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

System Requirements
Boot Camp requires an Intel-based Mac with a USB keyboard and mouse,
or a built-in keyboard and TrackPad; Mac OS X version 10.4.6 or
later; the latest firmware update; at least 10GB of free space on the
startup disk; a blank recordable CD or DVD; and single-disc version
of Windows XP Home Edition or Professional with Service Pack 2 or  
later.

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the
Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the
Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation
with its award-winning desktop and notebook computers, OS X operating
system, and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also
spearheading the digital music revolution with its iPod portable
music players and iTunes online music store.

Garner Annett
Account Executive
Higher Education, Corporate & Government
Apple Computer Australia Pty. Ltd.

Apple Computer Australia Pty. Ltd.
4th Floor, 16 St. Georges Tce
Perth WA 6000 AUSTRALIA


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Intel Mac Clip surprise ending

[Paul Mulroney]

Now that you can boot Windows XP on your Mac, imagine the  
possibilities ...


(Wait for the surprise ending)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RwHMIxdDdu8

:)

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Re: New version of the Mac/Intel ad

[Christian Kotz]

Inspirational stuff. Makes me wanna get out and liberate more  
processors out there from the slavery and 'Dulness'


certainly thinking different

- Christian

On 06/04/2006, at 9:27 AM, Rod wrote:




:-)  I love the ending!

Seeya

Rod!

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Re: New version of the Mac/Intel ad

[Rod]

Christian Kotz wrote:
Inspirational stuff. Makes me wanna get out and liberate more 
processors out there from the slavery and 'Dulness'


certainly thinking different

- Christian 
I'm guessing you guys up in Geraldton haven't seen the original ad? I 
didn't think Apple would have put it on regional tv.


(The one above is a parody of the original, with the BSOD added to the 
ending)


Seeya

Rod!

Re: New version of the Mac/Intel ad

[Christian Kotz]

We don't get any Apple advertising sadly, but I'm thinking the  
possibilities cut off probably wasn't original :P


-Christian
On 06/04/2006, at 10:38 AM, Rod wrote:


Christian Kotz wrote:
Inspirational stuff. Makes me wanna get out and liberate more  
processors out there from the slavery and 'Dulness'


certainly thinking different

- Christian
I'm guessing you guys up in Geraldton haven't seen the original ad?  
I didn't think Apple would have put it on regional tv.


(The one above is a parody of the original, with the BSOD added to  
the ending)


Seeya

Rod!

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Re: New version of the Mac/Intel ad

[Rod]

Christian Kotz wrote:
We don't get any Apple advertising sadly, but I'm thinking the 
possibilities cut off probably wasn't original :P


-Christian 

Yup, no BSOD.

:-)

BTW, the camps seem split pretty hard on the forums, whether really good 
or really bad. If anything, its all over the news websites. Great 
marketing tool Apple :-)


Seeya

Rod!

Secret folder.

[Malcolm McCallum]

Hi wamuggians , It is a senior citizen again :-0 I know I  should  
know the answer to my question but.. :-(. I want to have a folder  
in my Laptop that is ultra secure so even if I have left my laptop
on nasty people still cannot get my credit card details. The ideal  
would be a folder that needs an unbreakable code to get in, is this  
where I use the File vault? I do not want to have to open this to run  
my computer.

Mac

Re: Apple supports booting XP

[Neil Houghton]

on 05/04/06 21:31, Matthew Healey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It's called Boot Camp
> 
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
> 
> It allows you to bring your own copy of Windows XP and install it on
> any Intel-based mac.
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> - Matt
> 
For your own copy of Windows XP... will the Windows XP Pro included with
Virtual PC work (since the VPC won't work on an intel mac)

Just wondering


Neil
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Fast user switching not visible

[Spin]

I have enabled fast user switching under 10.4.6, with 4 accounts on  
the system.


After rebuilding the accounts from a backup (after hdd replacement),  
one account (a managed account) doesn't show the user name in the top  
right corner so you can switch users.  Other accounts on the system  
(including a managed account) do allow fast user switching.

Family controls are NOT switched on for Finder & System.

Any one have any ideas on what is happening here?

Glenn.

Re: Apple supports booting XP

[Rod]

Neil Houghton wrote:

on 05/04/06 21:31, Matthew Healey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

It's called Boot Camp

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

It allows you to bring your own copy of Windows XP and install it on
any Intel-based mac.

Have fun!

- Matt



For your own copy of Windows XP... will the Windows XP Pro included with
Virtual PC work (since the VPC won't work on an intel mac)

Just wondering


Neil
  
Officially, only XP SP2 will work.  You can make a slipstream cd if you 
have SP1 with the SP2 update.  Also, there are reports (and pics) on 
other sites that a Vista CD booted, MCE 2005, as well as as a Knoppix 
linux distro.


Seeya

Rod!

Video showing installation

[Rod]

Hi Folks,

Here is a video of the install (pick the iPod video at the bottom of the 
page):




Seeya

Rod!

Using SuperDuper to Backup to Firewire Drive

[Dudley Gager]

G'day listers

Am I still in the dark ages backing  up to CD?

I have just found SuperDuper and it seems to me that using it with a  
firewire drive would be a lot easier (read I would backup more often)  
+ I like the idea of bootable backups.


SuperDuper recommend firewire drives from Other World Computing,  
WiebeTech, LaCie or Maxtor  OneTouch


I have about 40GB to back up from a 160GB internal drive.

I thought of 2 automated rotating backups - weekly and monthly - so I  
would need 80GB minimum.


Do I go for Firewire 800 (my present Mac says it only does 400) and  
do I go for 7200 drive speed and any recommendations as to brand.


Thanks in advance for advice.

Dudley Gager

Re: Secret folder.

[John Thompson]

Greetings List,
	As another Senior moment sets in, I am also waiting on a reply to  
this request by Malcolm.  I am fairly sure Peter H. gave me the  
solution a while back but it was more than 30 seconds ago so I need  
refreshing.


John Thompson

On 06/04/2006, at 12:17, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi wamuggians , It is a senior citizen again :-0 I know I  should  
know the answer to my question but.. :-(. I want to have a  
folder in my Laptop that is ultra secure so even if I have left my  
laptop
on nasty people still cannot get my credit card details. The ideal  
would be a folder that needs an unbreakable code to get in, is this  
where I use the File vault? I do not want to have to open this to  
run my computer.

Mac

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Re: Secret folder.

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Mac & John,

You can create a password-protected (encrypted) disk image



Or you can put all your Credit Card and other passwords in your  
KeyChain.
I use 'Secure Notes' in my Keychain to store my passwords & private  
information.


From Keychain Help:
"You can use your keychain to securely store sensitive information  
unrelated to your computer, such as personal identification numbers  
(PINs) for a bank account, credit card numbers, confidential notes,  
cryptographic keys, X509 certificates, and any other information that  
you want to keep private.


1 .Open Keychain Access, located in /Applications/Utilities.
2. Click Show Keychains if the Keychains list is not open, then  
select the keychain you want to use (if your keychain is locked,  
click the lock icon then enter your keychain password to unlock it).

3. Choose File > New Secure Note Item.
4. Type a name for the note that will help you remember what it is.
5. Type the information you want to preserve in the Note box, or  
paste text you've copied or cut from another document.

6. Click Add.

Cheers,

Ronni

On 06/04/2006, at 3:44 PM, John Thompson wrote:


Greetings List,
	As another Senior moment sets in, I am also waiting on a reply to  
this request by Malcolm.  I am fairly sure Peter H. gave me the  
solution a while back but it was more than 30 seconds ago so I need  
refreshing.


John Thompson

On 06/04/2006, at 12:17, Malcolm McCallum wrote:

Hi wamuggians , It is a senior citizen again :-0 I know I  should  
know the answer to my question but.. :-(. I want to have a  
folder in my Laptop that is ultra secure so even if I have left my  
laptop
on nasty people still cannot get my credit card details. The ideal  
would be a folder that needs an unbreakable code to get in, is  
this where I use the File vault? I do not want to have to open  
this to run my computer.

Mac

Seeking assistance for WA Mac User

[Nicholas Pyers]

Hi all,

A member of my local User Group here in Melbourne has a daughter over  
in WA who needs some assistance to back up her G3 iMac and I was  
hoping someone would be to assist her and perform the back up for her  
and then perhaps prepare the machine to go to it's new owner.


If you can assist, please contact Don directly as per his email below  
and he'll call you and arrange what needs to be done.


ps: the iMac already has a nice new home lined up with someone in  
Perth, but it could be an opportunity to get a new member as well ;)


Nicholas Pyers


Hi Nick,

I am still trying to sort out a way to get my daughter's stuff off  
her G3 iMac in Perth and onto the G4 over here.  As I said she  
doesn't have a great deal of time nor a really suitable external HD  
or CD/DVD burner to use.
I did have thoughts about buying an iPod, sending it over, getting  
her to copy the files and folders and sending it back but that's a  
bit cumbersome and quite expensive.


The Files/Folders that need to be copied are as follows (Sizes are  
approximate) :-


Documents Folder   1.53BB
iPhoto Library (No.3.)  1.06GB
iPhoto Library (No.4.) 735MB

As you can see these would easily fit onto a blank DVD.

Your offer of help from the WA MUG's is tempting but of course I  
would not like to put anyone to much bother.  If there was someone  
with a PowerBook or iBook with a DVD burner and the ability to  
Network with the G3 iMac (no Firewire of course) that lived close  
to Mosman Park and would be willing to do the job, that would be  
great.  There is a fully usable (USB) Lacie external CD Burner, in  
good condition, over there but it is quite slow and would not  
easily accommodate the Folders without breaking them up.
I/we would be prepared to donate this burner to anyone willing to  
do the job in recognition of their time and effort and I would of  
course also supply the blank DVD.


If you are able to find a willing helper, perhaps they could email  
me  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with their phone number - I would  
then ring them on the VoIP phone to see if arrangements could be made.



Thanks

Don




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Re: Apple supports booting XP

[Ken Woods]

AHHH...!!!



On 5/4/06 9:31 PM, "Matthew Healey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's called Boot Camp
> 
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
> 
> It allows you to bring your own copy of Windows XP and install it on
> any Intel-based mac.
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> - Matt
> 
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Re: Using SuperDuper to Backup to Firewire Drive

[J Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Dudley,

One little word of advice: Do not depend entirely on your external firewire
drive, when you do get it, for your backup. My external firewire drive just
failed me last night, although I suspect that it is the power supply that
failed. Fortunately most of the data was burnt on either CDs or DVDs,
unfortunately not all of them though.

My drive is a Western Digital IDE 7,200 rpm in a firewire box and it is (or
rather was) very fast. If the drive also went with the power supply, I'll be
buying another WD, although I have heard that LaCie also is very good. I
guess one of the suppliers will be able to advise you on this matter.

Good luck,

Philippe 




on 6/4/06 3:07 PM, Dudley Gager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> G'day listers
> 
> Am I still in the dark ages backing  up to CD?
> 
> I have just found SuperDuper and it seems to me that using it with a
> firewire drive would be a lot easier (read I would backup more often)
> + I like the idea of bootable backups.
> 
> SuperDuper recommend firewire drives from Other World Computing,
> WiebeTech, LaCie or Maxtor  OneTouch
> 
> I have about 40GB to back up from a 160GB internal drive.
> 
> I thought of 2 automated rotating backups - weekly and monthly - so I
> would need 80GB minimum.
> 
> Do I go for Firewire 800 (my present Mac says it only does 400) and
> do I go for 7200 drive speed and any recommendations as to brand.
> 
> Thanks in advance for advice.
> 
> Dudley Gager
> 
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Re: Seeking assistance for WA Mac User

[Reg Whitely]

Hi Don, Brett (et al)

This sounds like Brett Carboni Tsunami "Today Mosman Park, tomorrow  
the world. Bwhahaha!" Big Sushi Territory really.


GMUGgers (in sunny Geraldton) would like to help too but there is a  
great distance physically between us. We could do it virtually iff  
there's no Perth response.


Regards

Reg

On 6 Apr 2006, at 4:57pm, Nicholas Pyers wrote:


Hi all,

A member of my local User Group here in Melbourne has a daughter  
over in WA who needs some assistance to back up her G3 iMac and I  
was hoping someone would be to assist her and perform the back up  
for her and then perhaps prepare the machine to go to it's new owner.


If you can assist, please contact Don directly as per his email  
below and he'll call you and arrange what needs to be done.


ps: the iMac already has a nice new home lined up with someone in  
Perth, but it could be an opportunity to get a new member as well ;)


Nicholas Pyers


Hi Nick,

I am still trying to sort out a way to get my daughter's stuff off  
her G3 iMac in Perth and onto the G4 over here.  As I said she  
doesn't have a great deal of time nor a really suitable external  
HD or CD/DVD burner to use.
I did have thoughts about buying an iPod, sending it over, getting  
her to copy the files and folders and sending it back but that's a  
bit cumbersome and quite expensive.


The Files/Folders that need to be copied are as follows (Sizes are  
approximate) :-


Documents Folder   1.53BB
iPhoto Library (No.3.)  1.06GB
iPhoto Library (No.4.) 735MB

As you can see these would easily fit onto a blank DVD.

Your offer of help from the WA MUG's is tempting but of course I  
would not like to put anyone to much bother.  If there was someone  
with a PowerBook or iBook with a DVD burner and the ability to  
Network with the G3 iMac (no Firewire of course) that lived close  
to Mosman Park and would be willing to do the job, that would be  
great.  There is a fully usable (USB) Lacie external CD Burner, in  
good condition, over there but it is quite slow and would not  
easily accommodate the Folders without breaking them up.
I/we would be prepared to donate this burner to anyone willing to  
do the job in recognition of their time and effort and I would of  
course also supply the blank DVD.


If you are able to find a willing helper, perhaps they could email  
me  ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with their phone number - I would  
then ring them on the VoIP phone to see if arrangements could be  
made.



Thanks

Don




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Re: Using SuperDuper to Backup to Firewire Drive

[Brett Carboni]

I use Super Duper with an external FW drive.

I have bought FW800/400 combo drives but I don't think the speed  
difference is worth it unless you are working with video in which  
case there are better options nowadays.


I bought Super Duper (well worth the price) and it enables me to use  
smart backup which only changes the changed files and lets me backup  
an 80Gb external via FW400 in about 12-19 minutes. In that way it's  
easy to do daily backups. Buy a 250Gb drive and partition it into an  
80Gb backup partition and use the rest to store stuff.


The drives can fail (don't buy 'hard box') but you'd have to be very  
unlucky to have both h/disks fail from normal means at the same time.  
That said, I have 4 externals. For the extra price for a FW800/400  
combo drive put it towards getting an extra cheaper drive. 7200rpm is  
good.


Brett carboni
Tsunami
"Sushi backed up daily to tummy drive"

On 06/04/2006, at 3:07 PM, Dudley Gager wrote:


G'day listers

Am I still in the dark ages backing  up to CD?

I have just found SuperDuper and it seems to me that using it with  
a firewire drive would be a lot easier (read I would backup more  
often) + I like the idea of bootable backups.


SuperDuper recommend firewire drives from Other World Computing,  
WiebeTech, LaCie or Maxtor  OneTouch


I have about 40GB to back up from a 160GB internal drive.

I thought of 2 automated rotating backups - weekly and monthly - so  
I would need 80GB minimum.


Do I go for Firewire 800 (my present Mac says it only does 400) and  
do I go for 7200 drive speed and any recommendations as to brand.

Problems updating to 10.4.6 - Intel

[Reg Whitely]

Hi all Wamuggers

Richard and Carol have asked me to forward their request to a broader  
forum; vis WAMUG. Can anyone help them please?


Many thanks
Reg
___

Begin forwarded message:

Hi Reg,

Just came up against another problem, downloaded OS X 10.4.6 (intel)

Before download was completed I clicked install and keep package in  
the menu bar then once download finished the software update window  
which  was still open came up with a red ! at the beginning of the  
10.4.6 update option. not wanting to go through the complete download  
again I checked the apple menu which said I was using OS X 10.4.6
This seemed strange as you normally have a window that tells you that  
the computer is installing the package or that you need to restart  
your computer, anyway I then downloaded the latest firmware update OK  
but when I selected the start up disk to install to I got another red !.


Anyway I decided to do a  restart only to find that the computer wont  
restart without using the install CD that came with it, tried running  
disk repair but it never changed anything,


Just checked on some mac forums seems I'm not alone,

Any thoughts welcome

Richard

Sharing iTunes and iPhoto with multiple users

[Spin]

This is a how-to for Terminal-savvy folk interested in having a  
single iTunes music library and/or a single iPhoto library shared by  
multiple users (e.g. for a family Mac).


When I went looking for a way to set up shared iTunes/iPhoto, a  
solution wasn't easy to find. There is an OS X shareware app that  
does it (and manages libraries).  But I thought I would share my  
solution to the problem in case its useful to others - it requires  
more OS X knowledge up front, but is simpler overall.  No doubt there  
is an easier way still, but for now this is what I have. Hopefully  
Apple will make this an out-of-the-box option one day.  I'm using it  
with 10.4.6 and have used with 10.4.4 and 10.4.5, but it should work  
for any version of Tiger, as ACL's were introduced in 10.4 Tiger.


Part 1:  Overview of the solution
To have multiple users share iTunes or iPhoto, you need to move your  
iTunes or iPhoto Library directory into a shared directory that every  
user can access.  Then you set access control list (ACL) permissions  
so the users can all act on the shared directory (standard Unix  
permissions have umask issues).  Once this is done, you create a link  
for each user who needs to access the shared directory.   Sounds a  
bit tricky, but its not really.


You will end up with one main directory:
/Shared/Music/iTunes  (this is the directory where your music  
collection lives)


And then for each user you have a link:
/Users/Mary/Music/iTunes  --> /Shared/Music/iTunes

After that, iTunes and iPhoto work as normal for all users, you won't  
notice the difference.  Note it means anyone can upload photos/music,  
and anyone can delete.Security note: you will be putting music  
and photos into directories accessible to all users on your Mac, so  
if your photos/music need to be kept secure from other users, don't  
do this.


Part 2: Step by step instructions for sharing iTunes

Disclaimer: you need to use Terminal and a some shell commands to set  
this up.  While its not really hard or dangerous, this information is  
presented 'as is', and you should only follow the instructions if you  
know your way around Terminal and the command line and are happy to  
sort out any problems that may arise.  I can't guarantee it will work  
for you, and am not offering tech support if it doesn't.  Backup  
first if you are worried.  But I've used this approach and it works  
very well for me.


Note: the $ sign is a symbol for commands to be issued in Terminal  
(ie. to your OS X shell).  Your prompt will usually have text before  
the $
You should be logged in as the Admin user that created the iTunes  
library you want to share.


1. Make sure you have your iTunes songs backed up (this isn't a  
particularly risky process, but backing up is such a good idea anyway!).

2. Start Terminal(from Finder, Applications)
3. Turn on ACL commands
$ sudo fsaclctl -p / -e
(Note: for your first sudo command, you will be prompted for your  
Administrator password).

4. Check ACL commands are on
$ sudo fsaclctl -p /
5. Create a shared directory.  I use /Shared in this example, but you  
could use /Users/Shared or another name.

$ mkdir /Shared
$ mkdir /Shared/Music
6. Set open permissions on the new directories
$ chmod 777 /Shared/Music
7. Move your iTunes library across to /Shared/Music.  Change  
directory, check iTunes is there, and then do the move.  Note the  
files don't actually go anywhere, you are just tell OS X to move  
pointers to the files from one directory to another, so don't worry  
if the command seems very fast.

$ cd ~/Music
(note: the tilde stands for your home directory)
$ ls -l(this is where you check that iTunes is in the directory)
$ mv iTunes /Shared/Music
8. Create a symbolic link for the iTunes directory (think of this as  
being like an Alias)

$ ln -s /Shared/Music/iTunes iTunes
$ ls -l   (this is just so you can see what the link is doing -  
pointing to the other directory)
9. Now set ACL permissions for any other users that need to access  
the iTunes directory.  The example is for a user called Mary, you  
need to do this for each user (ie repeat the command but replace Mary  
with each user name). This is quite a long command, check your  
spelling and make sure you leave spaces where they are needed!
$ sudo chmod -R +a "Mary allow  
read,write,append,delete,list,search,add_subdirectory,delete_child,file_ 
inherit,directory_inherit" /Shared/Music/iTunes
Note: start iTunes to check .. it should work normally.  If iTunes  
can find the music directory, find it manually and point to your  
Music directory
10.  Your now need to switch into Mary's account, and create a  
symbolic link for her.So login as Mary.

11. Start Terminal (make sure you are now logged in as Mary)
12. If Mary already has an iTunes directory, move it somewhere safe  
(you can delete it after checking it for files you need to keep).

cd ~/Music
ls -l   (this is where you check for an iTunes directo