Sack cloth and Ashes !

2007-07-16 Thread Malcolm McCallum

One of these days I will remember to put a 'Subject'  :-(
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Request ! re Subject line

2007-07-16 Thread Malcolm McCallum
   Hi everyone. Is there some way I can stop 'Send-ing' an email if  
it has no 'Subject' ?  I seem to remember there was. I NEED it.


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Re: CD burn errors?

2007-07-16 Thread John Winters
Hmmm...

That's odd. It seems that M$ Entourage doesn't pick up the final hyphen in
the address when I click on the link, so I get the page not found error. I
hadn't noticed this at first glance (or many subsequent glances)!

Can I make a guess that those successfully clicking on the link are using
Mail?

Any takers?
John
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 From: Susan Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:31 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: CD burn errors?
 
 Just to highlight how frustrating this is, the link worked first time
 for me just then.
 
 
 On 16/07/2007, at 12:19 PM, John Winters wrote:
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 I see your point.
 
 None-the-less, the link in your email didn't work for me either.
 
 The article was worth reading though.
 
 I thought I'd share with WAMUG the workaround I was advised to use
 when a
 supplied link just doesn't seem to click.
 
 From the URL
 http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-
 
 ... go back one directory at a time. Look on each page for the
 required link
 ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/
 
 ... if still not found, go right back to the home page
 ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/
 and use the search box to locate the title, or part of the title of
 the
 required page. In this case ... How-to-find-the-best
 
 I hope that helps someone feeling a bit frustrated when links don't
 click.
 
 Regards,
 John
 __
 John Winters
 Phone +61 8 9244 4564
 Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 From: Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:04:35 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: CD burn errors?
 
 
 On 14/07/2007, at 10:19 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:
 
 Hmmm, I still get the following message on my browser from a
 suggested link:
 Sorry, the page you requested does not exists. (sic)
 
 My original question after describing an experience with failed CD
 burns was
 was simply, ... are silver Imation disks sometimes prone to
 throwing up
 these faults?  No big deal, so I thought.
 
 A dismissive reply, There is a lot of information about CD media
 on this
 site. meaning WAMUG archives, was less helpful that the response
 of someone
 else who responded with a similar experience to mine.
 
 
 NO  !
 
 The fact that you did not get to that site
 
 http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-
 
 means that you have missed out not only on a wealth of information
 about faulty CD media
 but also on very good advice that suggests what media you should buy
 to avoid those problems .
 
 I don't know what browser you are trying with , but try another
 browser .
 The link does work, not only for me, but also for others  .
 
 Sorry you have a problem there !
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Paul.
 
 
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Re: CD burn errors?

2007-07-16 Thread Robert Howells


On 16/07/2007, at 3:29 PM, John Winters wrote:


Hmmm...

That's odd. It seems that M$ Entourage doesn't pick up the final  
hyphen in
the address when I click on the link, so I get the page not found  
error. I

hadn't noticed this at first glance (or many subsequent glances)!

Can I make a guess that those successfully clicking on the link are  
using

Mail?

Any takers?
John



Spot on !

I don't use entouragenormally   ... but have a copy and just  
tried it .



I had the same result as John ... and reading the message which is in  
colour,
the final  '  -  '   is not part of the link , but colours as the end  
of link.


Interesting   ! 


Bob







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From: Susan Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:31 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: CD burn errors?

Just to highlight how frustrating this is, the link worked first time
for me just then.


On 16/07/2007, at 12:19 PM, John Winters wrote:


Hi Rob,

I see your point.

None-the-less, the link in your email didn't work for me either.

The article was worth reading though.

I thought I'd share with WAMUG the workaround I was advised to use
when a
supplied link just doesn't seem to click.

From the URL
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-

... go back one directory at a time. Look on each page for the
required link
ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/

... if still not found, go right back to the home page
ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/
and use the search box to locate the title, or part of the title of
the
required page. In this case ... How-to-find-the-best

I hope that helps someone feeling a bit frustrated when links don't
click.

Regards,
John
__
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Phone +61 8 9244 4564
Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:04:35 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: CD burn errors?


On 14/07/2007, at 10:19 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:


Hmmm, I still get the following message on my browser from a
suggested link:
Sorry, the page you requested does not exists. (sic)

My original question after describing an experience with failed CD
burns was
was simply, ... are silver Imation disks sometimes prone to
throwing up
these faults?  No big deal, so I thought.

A dismissive reply, There is a lot of information about CD media
on this
site. meaning WAMUG archives, was less helpful that the response
of someone
else who responded with a similar experience to mine.



NO  !

The fact that you did not get to that site

http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-

means that you have missed out not only on a wealth of information
about faulty CD media
but also on very good advice that suggests what media you should  
buy

to avoid those problems .

I don't know what browser you are trying with , but try another
browser .
The link does work, not only for me, but also for others  .

Sorry you have a problem there !

Bob








Thanks.

Paul.


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Re: CD burn errors?

2007-07-16 Thread Bill Cole

Hi John,
I have accessed it from  mail 2.0.2 , also accessed it via  Safari  
2.0.3  both times it worked for me, I run G5, 1.8ghz, 768 ram, on  
10.4.10. I do not use  entourage 


I'm an avid reader of all the mail on wamug, I learn lots from it, if  
I can't resolve it on wamug I'll try something else, I am indebted to  
Bob, and lots of other contributers to the list


Personally I think Bob is always straight to the point, and doesn't   
waffle on ' about things we do not need to know.


Shall we move  on, before it gets  Flaming Hot  on the list

Bill


On 16/07/2007, at 3:29 PM, John Winters wrote:


Hmmm...

That's odd. It seems that M$ Entourage doesn't pick up the final  
hyphen in
the address when I click on the link, so I get the page not found  
error. I

hadn't noticed this at first glance (or many subsequent glances)!

Can I make a guess that those successfully clicking on the link are  
using

Mail?

Any takers?
John
__
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Phone +61 8 9244 4564
Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






From: Susan Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:31 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: CD burn errors?

Just to highlight how frustrating this is, the link worked first time
for me just then.


On 16/07/2007, at 12:19 PM, John Winters wrote:


Hi Rob,

I see your point.

None-the-less, the link in your email didn't work for me either.

The article was worth reading though.

I thought I'd share with WAMUG the workaround I was advised to use
when a
supplied link just doesn't seem to click.

From the URL
http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-

... go back one directory at a time. Look on each page for the
required link
ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/

... if still not found, go right back to the home page
ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/
and use the search box to locate the title, or part of the title of
the
required page. In this case ... How-to-find-the-best

I hope that helps someone feeling a bit frustrated when links don't
click.

Regards,
John
__
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Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
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From: Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:04:35 +0800
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: CD burn errors?


On 14/07/2007, at 10:19 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:


Hmmm, I still get the following message on my browser from a
suggested link:
Sorry, the page you requested does not exists. (sic)

My original question after describing an experience with failed CD
burns was
was simply, ... are silver Imation disks sometimes prone to
throwing up
these faults?  No big deal, so I thought.

A dismissive reply, There is a lot of information about CD media
on this
site. meaning WAMUG archives, was less helpful that the response
of someone
else who responded with a similar experience to mine.



NO  !

The fact that you did not get to that site

http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-

means that you have missed out not only on a wealth of information
about faulty CD media
but also on very good advice that suggests what media you should  
buy

to avoid those problems .

I don't know what browser you are trying with , but try another
browser .
The link does work, not only for me, but also for others  .

Sorry you have a problem there !

Bob








Thanks.

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Re: CD burn errors?

2007-07-16 Thread Kayleen Howells
Well yes .  But at least we have an explanation and now I have an answer
which might fix the Entourage problem

Try this link

http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-/

Normally we just ask Mail to save the link , but obviously with the link
For CD freaks the   -  needs a/   to correctly work for Entourage .

HTH's

Bob


On 16/7/07 4:01 PM, Bill Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi John,
 I have accessed it from  mail 2.0.2 , also accessed it via  Safari
 2.0.3  both times it worked for me, I run G5, 1.8ghz, 768 ram, on
 10.4.10. I do not use  entourage 
 
 I'm an avid reader of all the mail on wamug, I learn lots from it, if
 I can't resolve it on wamug I'll try something else, I am indebted to
 Bob, and lots of other contributers to the list
 
 Personally I think Bob is always straight to the point, and doesn't 
 waffle on ' about things we do not need to know.
 
 Shall we move  on, before it gets  Flaming Hot  on the list
 
 Bill
 
 
 On 16/07/2007, at 3:29 PM, John Winters wrote:
 
 Hmmm...
 
 That's odd. It seems that M$ Entourage doesn't pick up the final
 hyphen in
 the address when I click on the link, so I get the page not found
 error. I
 hadn't noticed this at first glance (or many subsequent glances)!
 
 Can I make a guess that those successfully clicking on the link are
 using
 Mail?
 
 Any takers?
 John
 __
 John Winters
 Phone +61 8 9244 4564
 Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Susan Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:31 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: CD burn errors?
 
 Just to highlight how frustrating this is, the link worked first time
 for me just then.
 
 
 On 16/07/2007, at 12:19 PM, John Winters wrote:
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 I see your point.
 
 None-the-less, the link in your email didn't work for me either.
 
 The article was worth reading though.
 
 I thought I'd share with WAMUG the workaround I was advised to use
 when a
 supplied link just doesn't seem to click.
 
 From the URL
 http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-
 
 ... go back one directory at a time. Look on each page for the
 required link
 ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/
 
 ... if still not found, go right back to the home page
 ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/
 and use the search box to locate the title, or part of the title of
 the
 required page. In this case ... How-to-find-the-best
 
 I hope that helps someone feeling a bit frustrated when links don't
 click.
 
 Regards,
 John
 __
 John Winters
 Phone +61 8 9244 4564
 Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 From: Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:04:35 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: CD burn errors?
 
 
 On 14/07/2007, at 10:19 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:
 
 Hmmm, I still get the following message on my browser from a
 suggested link:
 Sorry, the page you requested does not exists. (sic)
 
 My original question after describing an experience with failed CD
 burns was
 was simply, ... are silver Imation disks sometimes prone to
 throwing up
 these faults?  No big deal, so I thought.
 
 A dismissive reply, There is a lot of information about CD media
 on this
 site. meaning WAMUG archives, was less helpful that the response
 of someone
 else who responded with a similar experience to mine.
 
 
 NO  !
 
 The fact that you did not get to that site
 
 http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-
 
 means that you have missed out not only on a wealth of information
 about faulty CD media
 but also on very good advice that suggests what media you should
 buy
 to avoid those problems .
 
 I don't know what browser you are trying with , but try another
 browser .
 The link does work, not only for me, but also for others  .
 
 Sorry you have a problem there !
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Paul.
 
 
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Re: CD burn errors?

2007-07-16 Thread John Winters
Well now,

That works perfectly. Click and go!

Thanks,
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 From: Kayleen Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:11:45 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: CD burn errors?
 
 Well yes .  But at least we have an explanation and now I have an answer
 which might fix the Entourage problem
 
 Try this link
 
 http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-/
 
 Normally we just ask Mail to save the link , but obviously with the link
 For CD freaks the   -  needs a/   to correctly work for Entourage .
 
 HTH's
 
 Bob
 
 
 On 16/7/07 4:01 PM, Bill Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 I have accessed it from  mail 2.0.2 , also accessed it via  Safari
 2.0.3  both times it worked for me, I run G5, 1.8ghz, 768 ram, on
 10.4.10. I do not use  entourage 
 
 I'm an avid reader of all the mail on wamug, I learn lots from it, if
 I can't resolve it on wamug I'll try something else, I am indebted to
 Bob, and lots of other contributers to the list
 
 Personally I think Bob is always straight to the point, and doesn't 
 waffle on ' about things we do not need to know.
 
 Shall we move  on, before it gets  Flaming Hot  on the list
 
 Bill
 
 
 On 16/07/2007, at 3:29 PM, John Winters wrote:
 
 Hmmm...
 
 That's odd. It seems that M$ Entourage doesn't pick up the final
 hyphen in
 the address when I click on the link, so I get the page not found
 error. I
 hadn't noticed this at first glance (or many subsequent glances)!
 
 Can I make a guess that those successfully clicking on the link are
 using
 Mail?
 
 Any takers?
 John
 __
 John Winters
 Phone +61 8 9244 4564
 Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Susan Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:31 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: CD burn errors?
 
 Just to highlight how frustrating this is, the link worked first time
 for me just then.
 
 
 On 16/07/2007, at 12:19 PM, John Winters wrote:
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 I see your point.
 
 None-the-less, the link in your email didn't work for me either.
 
 The article was worth reading though.
 
 I thought I'd share with WAMUG the workaround I was advised to use
 when a
 supplied link just doesn't seem to click.
 
 From the URL
 http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-
 
 ... go back one directory at a time. Look on each page for the
 required link
 ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/
 
 ... if still not found, go right back to the home page
 ie http://www.cdfreaks.com/
 and use the search box to locate the title, or part of the title of
 the
 required page. In this case ... How-to-find-the-best
 
 I hope that helps someone feeling a bit frustrated when links don't
 click.
 
 Regards,
 John
 __
 John Winters
 Phone +61 8 9244 4564
 Fax  +61 8 9446 7709
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 From: Robert Howells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:04:35 +0800
 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Re: CD burn errors?
 
 
 On 14/07/2007, at 10:19 AM, Paul Weaver wrote:
 
 Hmmm, I still get the following message on my browser from a
 suggested link:
 Sorry, the page you requested does not exists. (sic)
 
 My original question after describing an experience with failed CD
 burns was
 was simply, ... are silver Imation disks sometimes prone to
 throwing up
 these faults?  No big deal, so I thought.
 
 A dismissive reply, There is a lot of information about CD media
 on this
 site. meaning WAMUG archives, was less helpful that the response
 of someone
 else who responded with a similar experience to mine.
 
 
 NO  !
 
 The fact that you did not get to that site
 
 http://www.cdfreaks.com/reviews/CD-R-media-How-to-find-the-best-
 
 means that you have missed out not only on a wealth of information
 about faulty CD media
 but also on very good advice that suggests what media you should
 buy
 to avoid those problems .
 
 I don't know what browser you are trying with , but try another
 browser .
 The link does work, not only for me, but also for others  .
 
 Sorry you have a problem there !
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Paul.
 
 
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2007-07-16 Thread Stephen Chape

Anyone interested in a D-Link DSL300 modem ?
If so please reply or give me a call on 04 1919 9085.
It's FREE.
I have just upgraded to ADSL2+ so needed a faster one.

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Photo Restoration

2007-07-16 Thread Matthew Healey

Hi Everyone,

I am looking for someone to restore an old photo for me. The picture  
itself is in good condition, but it has an odd pattern across it that  
I would like removed.


If anyone is, or knows, a photoshop god that does this sort of thing,  
please let me know.


- Matt

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MacUpdate - 4 hours left on good promo bundle - US$49

2007-07-16 Thread Derek Y-E

Hi WAMUG folks.

This one came in on the MacGeeks mailing list (thanks Andy)...

http://www.macupdate.com/

Get SRS iWow, GarageSale, Cocktail, ProfCast, Amadeus Pro, Fetch,  
Graphic Converter X, Little Snitch, Intaglio (plus possibly  
TechToolPro) for US$49... Only about 4 hours left though (noon  
17/7/2007) so be quick


:-)

Cheers,
Derek

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Re: Photo Restoration

2007-07-16 Thread Ian Conaghan
Matt, If you give me the piccie at the Committee Meeting tonight I'll 
see what I can do with it.


Cheers

Ian

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SOHO Laminator

2007-07-16 Thread Glenn Nicholas
A bit off topic here, but does anyone have any recommendations on a  
small office laminator?
We recently bought an OfficeWorks A3 laminator, but are returning it  
because it jams (and in the case of an A5 pouch, cannot be cleared by  
mere humans).


What works well?

Low volume usage (say 5-10 / week).  While we bought an A3 model  
(because they were on end of fy special), an A4 would be Ok in practice.


Glenn.

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Combining Vob files to others

2007-07-16 Thread tom samson
I have some dvd VOB files from two sources I want to burn to one disk  
what is the safest way of doing this

tom samson

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Re: SOHO Laminator

2007-07-16 Thread Mike Fuller
I use an Ibico pouchMaster PQ A3 laminator I purchased from  
OfficeWorks a couple of years ago when they had it on special.


Does everything perfectly although it took a couple of tries to get  
the heat setting right. No jamming experienced.


I find the A3 size very handy and would find an A4 too restricting.

Cheers,

Mike Fuller

On 17/07/2007, at 9:51 AM, Glenn Nicholas wrote:

A bit off topic here, but does anyone have any recommendations on a  
small office laminator?
We recently bought an OfficeWorks A3 laminator, but are returning  
it because it jams (and in the case of an A5 pouch, cannot be  
cleared by mere humans).


What works well?

Low volume usage (say 5-10 / week).  While we bought an A3 model  
(because they were on end of fy special), an A4 would be Ok in  
practice.


Glenn.

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Apples to Apples

2007-07-16 Thread Philip Trouchet
Comments please on  (   
http://pcpitstop.com/news/video/apples2apples.asp   ). Interesting 
stir. Cheers  p.


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Re: Apples to Apples

2007-07-16 Thread Adam Hewitt

Hi All,

I *hate* these debates. I especially hate it when they try and pawn  
themselves off as being a *true* comparison.


After watching that video and reading the comments I am inclined to  
start a real Apples to Apples website that allows for comment to be  
imbedded into the argument.


In any case here are my points on this topic.

1. The hardware costs are significantly different depending on  
quality and manufacturer. Compare the cost of a Palit 8800GTX and a  
BFG 800GTX for example.
2. The hardware is not even the point to most of the Apple ads, its  
the software that is being compared (Upgrade to Vista for example)
3. The guy failed to take into account X11 and the linux ports. I  
would say that this would constitute a large amount of free software,  
so only giving examples from downloads.com is not accurate.
4. There were a number of arguments in the comments regarding viruses  
and hackers and that Windows is less secure only because there are so  
many more Windows machines around the world. This is a crap argument  
because of one simple factWindows defaults to the user being  
Administrator and OS X does not. If an Apple user got a virus it  
would only affect that users environment unless they allowed it to  
run as a priviledged user, but this is not a bug its user ignorance.  
Also the Proof on Concept viruses or exploits for Mac have been 99%  
local exploits, meaning you need physical access to the machine to  
make it work...not really an issue in my opinion because if you have  
local access to any machine you have access to all the data on it.
5. They also argued that Windows has to support much more hardware  
and therefore it is inherently going to be less stable. The fact that  
OS X is based on BSD means that it makes no difference what hardware  
it needs to support as long as drivers are written properly it will  
have no issues. I run Linux and I am overly certified in Linux  
Administration and I have seen how these Unix variants run on varying  
hardware and it is awesome. Linux can even use a wrapper around a  
windows driver to get the hardware to work, which I have done and it  
works very well. If Apple turned around tomorrow and said that they  
were scraping the hardware component and allowing OS X to run on  
anything, it would still be infinitely more stable than Windows.


I will stick with my Rolex thank you...

Adam.




On 17/07/2007, at 11:37 AM, Philip Trouchet wrote:

Comments please on  (   http://pcpitstop.com/news/video/ 
apples2apples.asp   ). Interesting stir. Cheers  p.


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