Re: Outgoing servers in iPhone Mail

[Peter Meyer]

thanks Duncan
So, at least I know the device is capable of doing what you'd expect  
it to do


I have read of similar problems experienced but involving AOL and AT&T  
and only the upgrade to OS 3.0




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pmo...@people.net.au

On 21/06/2009, at 11:38 AM, Duncan Hardman wrote:

Works for me. I have a primary and the  Optus one as a backup. Can  
take a while to send but does go.


Duncan

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/06/2009, at 11:06 AM, Peter Meyer  wrote:

I probably asked my question the wrong way around when I first  
posted it.
So can someone please confirm that the configuration of SMTP  
servers on the iPhone does, in fact behave as Apple says it should  
viz: if a 'primary' server is unavailable the phone will try the  
additional outgoing servers in turn (hopefully, until it has  
success)?




Can anyone confirm that my experience with sending email on the 3G  
network is more general than mine, alone?


My iPhone contract is with Telstra but my current ISP is People  
Telecom. Therefore I have the need to specify two outgoing mail  
servers: mail.bigpond.com for the 3G network and  
smtp.per.people.net.au for WiFi connections. Under Settings>mail  
etc>accounts>outgoing mail server it is necessary to set a Primary  
Server (smtp.people in  my case) and 'Other SMTP  
Servers' (mail.bigpond) and there it states that:


"If Mail is unsuccessful using the primary server, it will try the  
other SMTP servers in succession."


However my experience is that with the Primary Server toggled   
'ON', using a 3G connection, Mail will try to send an email and,  
after some delay fail with the message: 'The server rejected one  
of the recipient's addresses (sic). The message has been placed in  
the Outbox' If the Primary Server is toggled 'OFF' in this  
configuration the message is sent but not as quickly as with a  
WiFi connection where the Primary Server is toggled 'ON' It  
appears as if contact with the Primary Server is still attempted  
before the Secondary SMTP server is used. (so does OFF not really  
mean OFF?)
I have set up an account with bigpond as the Primary and the same  
situation is seen in reverse ie: under WiFi if bigpond is toggled  
OFF an email is sent after a delay but not at all if bigpond is  
toggled ON.


Having to manually configure the primary SMTP server's state  
whenever the network connection is changed is seemingly  
contradictory to what the Settings note about 'Other SMTP Servers'  
implies.


I had hoped that the upgrade to iPhone 3.0 would resolve the  
problem but it hasn't. Nor has restoring everything 'as a new  
phone' (ie without any previous settings) made any difference.
I have spent a fair bit of time talking to Telstra and Apple and,  
in fact it was only in the past few days that I worked out the  
above solution and was able to send emails using 3G connections  
although I'm sure there wasn't this difficulty when I first set up  
the phone's email. I want (need?) to send very few emails using a  
3G connection but this is, nevertheless, pretty frustrating :(


At no stage has there been any difficulty receiving email or  
connecting to the net on either 3G or WiFi connections







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Is there a difference between letting the computer go to sleep (say after 15
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Re: Outgoing servers in iPhone Mail

[Duncan Hardman]

Works for me. I have a primary and the  Optus one as a backup. Can  
take a while to send but does go.


Duncan

Sent from my iPhone

On 21/06/2009, at 11:06 AM, Peter Meyer  wrote:

I probably asked my question the wrong way around when I first  
posted it.
So can someone please confirm that the configuration of SMTP servers  
on the iPhone does, in fact behave as Apple says it should viz: if a  
'primary' server is unavailable the phone will try the additional  
outgoing servers in turn (hopefully, until it has success)?




Can anyone confirm that my experience with sending email on the 3G  
network is more general than mine, alone?


My iPhone contract is with Telstra but my current ISP is People  
Telecom. Therefore I have the need to specify two outgoing mail  
servers: mail.bigpond.com for the 3G network and  
smtp.per.people.net.au for WiFi connections. Under Settings>mail  
etc>accounts>outgoing mail server it is necessary to set a Primary  
Server (smtp.people in  my case) and 'Other SMTP  
Servers' (mail.bigpond) and there it states that:


"If Mail is unsuccessful using the primary server, it will try the  
other SMTP servers in succession."


However my experience is that with the Primary Server toggled   
'ON', using a 3G connection, Mail will try to send an email and,  
after some delay fail with the message: 'The server rejected one of  
the recipient's addresses (sic). The message has been placed in the  
Outbox' If the Primary Server is toggled 'OFF' in this  
configuration the message is sent but not as quickly as with a WiFi  
connection where the Primary Server is toggled 'ON' It appears as  
if contact with the Primary Server is still attempted before the  
Secondary SMTP server is used. (so does OFF not really mean OFF?)
I have set up an account with bigpond as the Primary and the same  
situation is seen in reverse ie: under WiFi if bigpond is toggled  
OFF an email is sent after a delay but not at all if bigpond is  
toggled ON.


Having to manually configure the primary SMTP server's state  
whenever the network connection is changed is seemingly  
contradictory to what the Settings note about 'Other SMTP Servers'  
implies.


I had hoped that the upgrade to iPhone 3.0 would resolve the  
problem but it hasn't. Nor has restoring everything 'as a new  
phone' (ie without any previous settings) made any difference.
I have spent a fair bit of time talking to Telstra and Apple and,  
in fact it was only in the past few days that I worked out the  
above solution and was able to send emails using 3G connections  
although I'm sure there wasn't this difficulty when I first set up  
the phone's email. I want (need?) to send very few emails using a  
3G connection but this is, nevertheless, pretty frustrating :(


At no stage has there been any difficulty receiving email or  
connecting to the net on either 3G or WiFi connections







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Outgoing servers in iPhone Mail

[Peter Meyer]

I probably asked my question the wrong way around when I first posted  
it.
So can someone please confirm that the configuration of SMTP servers  
on the iPhone does, in fact behave as Apple says it should viz: if a  
'primary' server is unavailable the phone will try the additional  
outgoing servers in turn (hopefully, until it has success)?




Can anyone confirm that my experience with sending email on the 3G  
network is more general than mine, alone?


My iPhone contract is with Telstra but my current ISP is People  
Telecom. Therefore I have the need to specify two outgoing mail  
servers: mail.bigpond.com for the 3G network and  
smtp.per.people.net.au for WiFi connections. Under Settings>mail  
etc>accounts>outgoing mail server it is necessary to set a Primary  
Server (smtp.people in  my case) and 'Other SMTP  
Servers' (mail.bigpond) and there it states that:


"If Mail is unsuccessful using the primary server, it will try the  
other SMTP servers in succession."


However my experience is that with the Primary Server toggled  'ON',  
using a 3G connection, Mail will try to send an email and, after  
some delay fail with the message: 'The server rejected one of the  
recipient's addresses (sic). The message has been placed in the  
Outbox' If the Primary Server is toggled 'OFF' in this configuration  
the message is sent but not as quickly as with a WiFi connection  
where the Primary Server is toggled 'ON' It appears as if contact  
with the Primary Server is still attempted before the Secondary SMTP  
server is used. (so does OFF not really mean OFF?)
I have set up an account with bigpond as the Primary and the same  
situation is seen in reverse ie: under WiFi if bigpond is toggled  
OFF an email is sent after a delay but not at all if bigpond is  
toggled ON.


Having to manually configure the primary SMTP server's state  
whenever the network connection is changed is seemingly  
contradictory to what the Settings note about 'Other SMTP Servers'  
implies.


I had hoped that the upgrade to iPhone 3.0 would resolve the problem  
but it hasn't. Nor has restoring everything 'as a new phone' (ie  
without any previous settings) made any difference.
I have spent a fair bit of time talking to Telstra and Apple and, in  
fact it was only in the past few days that I worked out the above  
solution and was able to send emails using 3G connections although  
I'm sure there wasn't this difficulty when I first set up the  
phone's email. I want (need?) to send very few emails using a 3G  
connection but this is, nevertheless, pretty frustrating :(


At no stage has there been any difficulty receiving email or  
connecting to the net on either 3G or WiFi connections







peter meyer
0408 902349
pmo...@people.net.au


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Re: Telstra E on iPhone

[Rod Blitvich]

A!
That's it.
Great ta Susan, and ta Ronnie also.
This seemed to happen since upgrading to 3.0 or playing with Tethering
ta
Rod



On 21/06/2009, at 8:26 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:

Hi Rod, make sure you have 3g switched on in preferences. If you  
have, it should have 3g there. cheers, Susan

On 21/06/2009, at 8:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 21/06/2009, at 8:04 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi WAMUGers
The top left of my iphone screen used to say "Telstra 3G" i think.
It now says  "Telstra E"
is this a problem?
ta
Blitto


Hi Rod,

I think all it means that you are on Telstra's network and the 'E'  
stands for EDGE, which is the 2.75G data standard.
If you see '3G' instead of 'E', that means that you have 3G data  
access.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Telstra E on iPhone

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Rod, make sure you have 3g switched on in preferences. If you have,  
it should have 3g there. cheers, Susan

On 21/06/2009, at 8:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 21/06/2009, at 8:04 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi WAMUGers
The top left of my iphone screen used to say "Telstra 3G" i think.
It now says  "Telstra E"
is this a problem?
ta
Blitto


Hi Rod,

I think all it means that you are on Telstra's network and the 'E'  
stands for EDGE, which is the 2.75G data standard.
If you see '3G' instead of 'E', that means that you have 3G data  
access.


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Telstra E on iPhone

[Ronda Brown]

On 21/06/2009, at 8:04 AM, Rod Blitvich wrote:


Hi WAMUGers
The top left of my iphone screen used to say "Telstra 3G" i think.
It now says  "Telstra E"
is this a problem?
ta
Blitto


Hi Rod,

I think all it means that you are on Telstra's network and the 'E'  
stands for EDGE, which is the 2.75G data standard.

If you see '3G' instead of 'E', that means that you have 3G data access.

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7


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Telstra E on iPhone

[Rod Blitvich]

Hi WAMUGers
The top left of my iphone screen used to say "Telstra 3G" i think.
It now says  "Telstra E"
is this a problem?
ta
Blitto



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Re: Safari 4 problem

[John Daniels]

Thanks Daniel and Ronni
You were right, by updating Safari 4 to 4.0.1 the problem was resolved
Cheers
John

On 19/06/2009, at 8:16 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Mike,

Did you install the "Security Update 2009-002" that was released  
through Software Update awhile back?

If you have you can go here & download Safari 4.0.1




Cheers,
Ronni

On 19/06/2009, at 7:24 AM, Mike Fuller wrote:


Hi Ronni

Software Update doesn't bring up Safari 4.01 for me (currently  
running Safari 4.0 in Tiger).


I suspect it's because I don't have iPhoto '09, which won't run in  
Tiger, although the Safari update is supposedly for Tiger and  
Leopard. The update is supposed to address issues between Safari  
and iPhoto '09.


And I can still log onto both my banks - Westpac and Police &  
Nurses credit.


Cheers

Mike Fuller

On 19/06/2009, at 6:57 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

Run Software Update, Safari 4.0.1 update will be there ready to  
download & install.


Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.5.7

On 18/6/09 9:30 PM, "John Daniels"   
wrote:




Hi Wamuggers
Since installing Safari 4 I find that I cannot log on to bank
sites. I
can input account number and password but the box to click  
labelled

"log on" does not appear. This applies to all banks. I can log on
using Firefox without a problem. Java is enabled and pop up  
windows

are not blocked. Anyone got any ideas?
Cheers



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