keyboard
my iMac can not find keyboard typing from keyboard viewer. need help tom samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Could not open folders on desktop
Yesterday I placed everything on my chaotic desktop into one folder to get some space to do something. I did some work and later I tried to get access to the clear-up folder but with no success. My HD icon resides on the desktop as does my download target folder. None would open. I could get to the files in needed in the clear-up folders by doing a search and opening that way, or by looking at Word's recent files. I shut the machine down. All was well and still is. But what was happening? MBP 10.6.8 Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Could not open folders on desktop
Hi Bill, I would think you had caused some corruption in Finder. When you are unable to open any files or folders in Finder, often moving the com.apple.finder.plist file found in (your user)/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist to the desktop then, Relaunch your Finder. --Force Quit--Finder--Relaunch fixes the problem. But, keeping your desktop clean is the best solution. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 09/06/2012, at 6:23 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote: Yesterday I placed everything on my chaotic desktop into one folder to get some space to do something. I did some work and later I tried to get access to the clear-up folder but with no success. My HD icon resides on the desktop as does my download target folder. None would open. I could get to the files in needed in the clear-up folders by doing a search and opening that way, or by looking at Word's recent files. I shut the machine down. All was well and still is. But what was happening? MBP 10.6.8 Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: keyboard
Hi Tom, Is this the same iMac you have been having problems with no USB Ports working, as in WAMUG Subject Big Problems with iMac? The keyboard won't be recognised if the USB ports are not working. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 09/06/2012, at 6:10 PM, tom samson thefr...@iinet.net.au wrote: my iMac can not find keyboard typing from keyboard viewer. need help tom samson --- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only
It would hearten me somewhat, should I pay my membership again this year, that I receive some sort of receipt or acknowledgement of membership. Reg Reg Whitely Home: 08 9921 7272 Mob: 04 8899 7313 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 am, iCloud wrote: Good morning all, For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list. I also think another point that may be worth considering is that many of the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or functions either at all or even occasionally. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote: Hi Wamuggers, After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change. The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running. If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how to join are available at this link: http://www.wamug.org.au/join/ We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your continued support of WAMUG. Thanks, WAMUG Committee -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
MacBook Pro won't shut down
I'd very much like help please. For the sake of running AppleWorks an Eudora my MacBook Pro late 2010 6,1 is running OS X 10.6.8 and will only shut down when the power button is held down. It won't from either the Apple's Restart or Shut Down. I have re-installed 10.6.8 and all updates, reset pram SMC. I have both Time Machine and SuperDuper backups. TIA, James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: MacBook Pro won't shut down
Hi James, What is happening when you try to do a normal shutdown? When you shutdown the system normally does it stay on the blue screen with a spinwheel running? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 09/06/2012, at 10:10 PM, James I Fraser jifra...@southcom.com.au wrote: I'd very much like help please. For the sake of running AppleWorks an Eudora my MacBook Pro late 2010 6,1 is running OS X 10.6.8 and will only shut down when the power button is held down. It won't from either the Apple's Restart or Shut Down. I have re-installed 10.6.8 and all updates, reset pram SMC. I have both Time Machine and SuperDuper backups. TIA, James -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: keyboard
yes. maybe it time to find a tech to fix it . but first i ma looking for a file i can trash that may be corrupted. or go to terminal [a first]. any ideas [sorry cannot get question mark. tom samson On 09/06/2012, at 6:10 PM, tom samson wrote: my iMac can not find keyboard typing from keyboard viewer. need help tom samson -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Not waking
Hi everyone Over the last couple of months my MacBook Pro (10.7.4) has occasionally refused to wake up! Nothing I can do will open the screen and I end up shutting the computer down and restarting to proceed. Is there anything I can do to resolve this? Is this anything to be concerned about? I have run DiskWarrior. Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Not waking
I suggest first resetting the System Management Controller which is the software which controls the sleep function. Very easy to do. Look at Apple Support article HT3964. HTH . Peter Sealy Thurgoona AUSTRALIA I intend to live forever - so far so good. On 10/06/2012, at 1:17 PM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi everyone Over the last couple of months my MacBook Pro (10.7.4) has occasionally refused to wake up! Nothing I can do will open the screen and I end up shutting the computer down and restarting to proceed. Is there anything I can do to resolve this? Is this anything to be concerned about? I have run DiskWarrior. Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Not waking
did you try just to close the lid, watching for the standby light to show breathing then open again wait a few seconds. i have to do that when the screen goes blank James SAD Technic U3 6 Chalkley Pl Bayswater WA Australia +618 9370 5307 mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132) sad...@iinet.net.au http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/ Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish. On 10/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi everyone Over the last couple of months my MacBook Pro (10.7.4) has occasionally refused to wake up! Nothing I can do will open the screen and I end up shutting the computer down and restarting to proceed. Is there anything I can do to resolve this? Is this anything to be concerned about? I have run DiskWarrior. Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Could not open folders on desktop
Thanks. The DT now cleared and advice followed. Bill On 09/06/2012, at 7:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Bill, I would think you had caused some corruption in Finder. When you are unable to open any files or folders in Finder, often moving the com.apple.finder.plist file found in (your user)/Library/Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist to the desktop then, Relaunch your Finder. --Force Quit--Finder--Relaunch fixes the problem. But, keeping your desktop clean is the best solution. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 09/06/2012, at 6:23 PM, Bill Parker ren...@westnet.com.au wrote: Yesterday I placed everything on my chaotic desktop into one folder to get some space to do something. I did some work and later I tried to get access to the clear-up folder but with no success. My HD icon resides on the desktop as does my download target folder. None would open. I could get to the files in needed in the clear-up folders by doing a search and opening that way, or by looking at Word's recent files. I shut the machine down. All was well and still is. But what was happening? MBP 10.6.8 Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Not waking
Hi Peter, Have you checked if a EFI and SMC Firmware update is available for your MacBook Pro? Some firmware updates for Intel-based Macs may not be displayed automatically using Software Update. Check your computer's EFI Boot ROM or SMC firmware version. 1. From the Apple () menu, choose About This Mac. 2. Click More Info. 3. For OS X Lion, click 'System Report' 4. Open the Hardware section to reveal Model Identifier, Boot ROM version, and SMC version numbers. The version information is in the pane on the right This Apple Support document will then show you if there is a Firmware Update available for your model MBP. Check the Table shown at this link: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1237 Note: In some cases System Profiler may report later versions of firmware than those listed below; if this is the case, your computer does not require any additional firmware updates. If your firmware version is lower than the one listed in this table, you should upgrade by following the link provided. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.7.4 Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 10/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Curtis Peter wrote: Hi everyone Over the last couple of months my MacBook Pro (10.7.4) has occasionally refused to wake up! Nothing I can do will open the screen and I end up shutting the computer down and restarting to proceed. Is there anything I can do to resolve this? Is this anything to be concerned about? I have run DiskWarrior. Regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Whilst travelling I want to watch TV on my Mac
Hi Everyone Whilst travelling I want to watch TV on my Mac and particularly the Euro 2012 if it is possible. What is the best device to use on a Mac Book Pro (Snow Leopard) to watch TV and or things like Euro 2012. -- Peter Irene Faulks Unit 1, 9 Newsam Close PARKWOOD WA 6147 Phone: +618 9457 0747 (h) Fax:+618 9457 0444 Peter Mobile: 0416 187 937 Irene Mobile: 0439 933 404 Email: peterfau...@westnet.com.au This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately by email if you have received the email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Whilst travelling I want to watch TV on my Mac
Hi Peter, Check out the Elgato TV app and device. For more info http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/products.en.html I use the Elgato Diversity and Elgato TV Mobile for my iPad, and both works very well. Cheers, Peder On 10/06/2012, at 12:58 PM, Peter Faulks wrote: Hi Everyone Whilst travelling I want to watch TV on my Mac and particularly the Euro 2012 if it is possible. What is the best device to use on a Mac Book Pro (Snow Leopard) to watch TV and or things like Euro 2012. -- Peter Irene Faulks Unit 1, 9 Newsam Close PARKWOOD WA 6147 Phone:+618 9457 0747 (h) Fax: +618 9457 0444 Peter Mobile: 0416 187 937 Irene Mobile: 0439 933 404 Email:peterfau...@westnet.com.au This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please notify the sender immediately by email if you have received the email from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only
Hi Adrian I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up is actually pretty good for what is actually supplied for the WAMUG list. They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120 corporate fee. And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for no reimbursement to keep it all running. I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far. If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will charge for email or phone support on a one off basis. There's very little these days for free given the cost of living, overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world today unfortunately. I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o) I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now requires. Just my take on it. :o) Kind regards Daniel *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal stuff, etc etc,… ;o) Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote: Good morning all, For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list. I also think another point that may be worth considering is that many of the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or functions either at all or even occasionally. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote: Hi Wamuggers, After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change. The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running. If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how to join are available at this link: http://www.wamug.org.au/join/ We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your continued support of WAMUG. Thanks, WAMUG Committee -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug
Re: Posting to mailing list soon for WAMUG members only
I am with you Daniel. PS: When does the year expire for WAMUG ? On 10/06/2012, at 1:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Adrian I can't speak for the committee, but personally I think the set up is actually pretty good for what is actually supplied for the WAMUG list. They have two paid fees, the $30 member's fee and the $120 corporate fee. And I personally think the $30 is a bargain! Considering the ongoing running costs to keep everything going from hosting, domain name fees, server maintenance, list maintenance, support etc, let alone all the free given time that the Committee itself puts in for no reimbursement to keep it all running. I doubt you'd find anywhere these days where $30 goes that far. If you call Apple themselves for non Applecare queries, or a one off query you're looking at $99 per incident! Even most places will charge for email or phone support on a one off basis. There's very little these days for free given the cost of living, overheads and every day expenses. It's the nature of the world today unfortunately. I know even Ronni pays her $30/year membership and i think she's asked one query the whole time she's been on list!! lol :o) So she's really paying to give the support! lol ;o) I personally feel that just having the two fees is a lot easier to look after and just makes it more simple given the nature of the mailing list. And as mentioned, this really isn't that much for the amount of help that is received. Realistically I don't think much of the costings are used for non meeting attendees, well bar the new indemnity insurance required unfortunately that WAMUG now requires. Just my take on it. :o) Kind regards Daniel *All comments mentioned above are solely the views of me and are meant in an informative nature from my view point :o) Etc etc legal stuff, etc etc,… ;o) Sent from my iPhone 4s --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel AT macwizardry.com.au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Apple** On 09/06/2012, at 10:14 AM, iCloud wrote: Good morning all, For some time now I have wondering if the committee has given any thought to having an associate membership (for the want of a better term) with a reduced fee that would allow elder members i.e. pensioners and others on a fixed income or even those in more remote areas, to seek occasional assistance, I don't think there would be many, if any, that would begrudge paying a fee for the amazing help that is so often forthcoming on the list. I also think another point that may be worth considering is that many of the aforementioned are not able to attend the groups meetings or functions either at all or even occasionally. Regards, Adrian adrianske...@me.com On 06/06/2012, at 11:39 AM, WAMUG announcements wrote: Hi Wamuggers, After surveying the mailing list and discussing the matter at a meeting, we have decided that as of the 1st July 2012, only WAMUG members will be able to post to the WAMUG mailing list. Everyone will still be able to read the list, but posting a question or a response will require that you be a paid-up WAMUG member or a life member. As most regular users of our list are already WAMUG members in any case, most of you will not notice any change. The move was a frequent suggestion of those who responded to our survey and is part of the drive to give value to those who pay the WAMUG subscription. Subscription is currently set at $30 per year. As a non-profit organization, subscriptions are used to pay for our web hosting, rental of venues and insurance for meetings, and generally to keep WAMUG running. If you are not currently a WAMUG member please pay your subscription by the 1st of July if you wish to continue posting to our list and to receive many other great member benefits that we will be announcing soon. Details on how to join are available at this link: http://www.wamug.org.au/join/ We have some exciting changes planned for this year and hope for your continued support of WAMUG. Thanks, WAMUG Committee -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Settings Unsubscribe - http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug Regards, Stephen Chape