Re: Opinions?

[Severin Crisp]

Ken, I have looked at Disk Tools Pro but as I already have Tech Tools Pro, 
which I believe is better, I went no further.  As Peter says, the OS handles 
most things, but I still run Clean My Mac and Disk Warrior monthly as 
housekeeping measures and hold Tech Tools Pro at the ready in case of need.  
For speed and ease of use I have these and other utilities on an up to date 
bootable partition on a separate external drive, which I find to be an 
excellent arrangement.  
Best wishes
Severin Crisp

On 18/04/2013, at 1:20 PM, Ken Jackson  wrote:

> Hey thanks Peter for such an in depth response.
> Yes it's a part of one of those bundled packages being offered.
> Yes I'm backed up but I may just buy the package to have it there just in 
> case,
> 
> thanks again Peter,
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> On 18 April 2013 07:42, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:
> 
> On 17/04/2013, at 5:03 PM, Ken Jackson  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> has anyone tried this?
>> Would anyone recommend it?
>> 
>> DISK TOOLS PRO
>> 
> 
> I have Disk Tools Pro. I think I received it as part of some software bundle 
> at one time. Fortunately I have never had to use it in anger, so I can't 
> testify to its effectiveness. 
> 
> Like all software of this type, I would not regard it as maintenance 
> software, rather than a tool to have around in case of emergency. Writing 
> information back to a hard drive always carries risks, and software such as 
> this always has the potential to make a bad problem worse. Knowing this makes 
> such software difficult to road test. Sure, you can test it on a 
> non-essential drive, but if it comes back with no errors you are none the 
> wiser. If it does come back with errors, it's probably time to back up that 
> data and replace the drive. 
> 
> The other problem is that hard drives have so much capacity these days that 
> they are quite likely to have bad sectors, etc, out of the box. Any attempt 
> to repair these is usually futile. Modern OSes are designed to deal with 
> these as a routine matter, so unless they are demonstrably causing problems 
> they can generally be safely ignored. By all means it is probably a good idea 
> to have a tool such as Disk Tools Pro, or any of its cousins such as Tech 
> Tool Pro, Disk Warrior, Drive Genius, etc. They all have different tools and 
> purposes, but ultimately they are all designed to rescue you from a disaster. 
> The best defence remains a good backup strategy.
> 
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Re: Opinions?

[Ken Jackson]

Hey thanks Peter for such an in depth response.
Yes it's a part of one of those bundled packages being offered.
Yes I'm backed up but I may just buy the package to have it there just in
case,

thanks again Peter,

Ken


On 18 April 2013 07:42, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

>
> On 17/04/2013, at 5:03 PM, Ken Jackson  wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
> has anyone tried this?
> Would anyone recommend it?
>
> DISK TOOLS PRO
>
> I have Disk Tools Pro. I think I received it as part of some software
> bundle at one time. Fortunately I have never had to use it in anger, so I
> can't testify to its effectiveness.
>
> Like all software of this type, I would not regard it as maintenance
> software, rather than a tool to have around in case of emergency. Writing
> information back to a hard drive always carries risks, and software such as
> this always has the potential to make a bad problem worse. Knowing this
> makes such software difficult to road test. Sure, you can test it on a
> non-essential drive, but if it comes back with no errors you are none the
> wiser. If it does come back with errors, it's probably time to back up that
> data and replace the drive.
>
> The other problem is that hard drives have so much capacity these days
> that they are quite likely to have bad sectors, etc, out of the box. Any
> attempt to repair these is usually futile. Modern OSes are designed to deal
> with these as a routine matter, so unless they are demonstrably causing
> problems they can generally be safely ignored. By all means it is probably
> a good idea to have a tool such as Disk Tools Pro, or any of its cousins
> such as Tech Tool Pro, Disk Warrior, Drive Genius, etc. They all have
> different tools and purposes, but ultimately they are all designed to
> rescue you from a disaster. The best defence remains a good backup strategy.
>
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
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Re: Opinions?

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On 17/04/2013, at 5:03 PM, Ken Jackson  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> has anyone tried this?
> Would anyone recommend it?
> 
> DISK TOOLS PRO
> 

I have Disk Tools Pro. I think I received it as part of some software bundle at 
one time. Fortunately I have never had to use it in anger, so I can't testify 
to its effectiveness. 

Like all software of this type, I would not regard it as maintenance software, 
rather than a tool to have around in case of emergency. Writing information 
back to a hard drive always carries risks, and software such as this always has 
the potential to make a bad problem worse. Knowing this makes such software 
difficult to road test. Sure, you can test it on a non-essential drive, but if 
it comes back with no errors you are none the wiser. If it does come back with 
errors, it's probably time to back up that data and replace the drive. 

The other problem is that hard drives have so much capacity these days that 
they are quite likely to have bad sectors, etc, out of the box. Any attempt to 
repair these is usually futile. Modern OSes are designed to deal with these as 
a routine matter, so unless they are demonstrably causing problems they can 
generally be safely ignored. By all means it is probably a good idea to have a 
tool such as Disk Tools Pro, or any of its cousins such as Tech Tool Pro, Disk 
Warrior, Drive Genius, etc. They all have different tools and purposes, but 
ultimately they are all designed to rescue you from a disaster. The best 
defence remains a good backup strategy.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Java and updates

[Severin Crisp]

Many thanks Ronni, great to hear  from you!  
Severin


On 17/04/2013, at 5:36 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Severin,
> 
> This Java Update uninstall the Apple-provided Java applet plug-in from all 
> web browsers.
> If you wish to use applets on a web page , you need to click on the region 
> labeled "Missing Plugin" to download the latest version of the Java applet 
> plug-in from Oracle.
> 
> 
> 
> About Java for OS X 2013-003
> 
> "This release updates the Apple-provided system Java SE 6 to version 1.6.0_45 
> and is for OS X versions 10.7 or later.
> 
> This update uninstalls the Apple-provided Java applet plug-in from all web 
> browsers. To use applets on a web page, click on the region labeled "Missing 
> plug-in" to go download the latest version of the Java applet plug-in from 
> Oracle.
> 
> This update also removes the Java Preferences application, which is no longer 
> required to configure applet settings.
> 
> Additional Information
> For information about the security content of this update, please visit this 
> website:
> 
>  "
> 
> Regards,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 17/04/2013, at 5:13 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> The latest batch of updates includes Java and its security.  Does anyone 
>> have information whether we can now safely turn Java back on in Safari?
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
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>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au
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Re: Java and updates

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Hi Severin,

This Java Update uninstall the Apple-provided Java applet plug-in from all web 
browsers.
If you wish to use applets on a web page , you need to click on the region 
labeled "Missing Plugin" to download the latest version of the Java applet 
plug-in from Oracle.



About Java for OS X 2013-003

"This release updates the Apple-provided system Java SE 6 to version 1.6.0_45 
and is for OS X versions 10.7 or later.

This update uninstalls the Apple-provided Java applet plug-in from all web 
browsers. To use applets on a web page, click on the region labeled "Missing 
plug-in" to go download the latest version of the Java applet plug-in from 
Oracle.

This update also removes the Java Preferences application, which is no longer 
required to configure applet settings.

Additional Information
For information about the security content of this update, please visit this 
website:

 "

Regards,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 17/04/2013, at 5:13 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:

> The latest batch of updates includes Java and its security.  Does anyone have 
> information whether we can now safely turn Java back on in Safari?
> Severin Crisp
> 
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Java and updates

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The latest batch of updates includes Java and its security.  Does anyone have 
information whether we can now safely turn Java back on in Safari?
Severin Crisp


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