Re: iOS8

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Susan,

Yes, I understand that the download is a 1.63GB size... So Laura can downloaded 
in iTunes without any issue.
BUT, Laura has said she does not have enough room to actually "Install" the 
update once it is downloaded in Itunes.

I had 17.30GBs Free before installing iOS 8 and after the installation 
completed I had 16.0GBs Free. So Laura needs to have at least a few GBs of 
Available space on her iPad to be able to Install and then actually be able to 
Run/Use iOS 8. 

Similar to a computer... More Free space the OS performers better.

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:18 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, the room is needed for the download, not the update itself. Which 
> is why I did my husbands iPad and iPhone 4S via iTunes. The 4S is only 8 gig. 
> So Lara should be able to update using iTunes. Cheers, Susan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> But Laura, you don't have the room on your iPad to install iOS 8... 
>> So what is the point in downloading the update if you can't install it?
>> 
>> The iOS 8 update won't install until you free up the necessary space on your 
>> iPad so it can be installed.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:02 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had not 
>>> considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
 
 Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to download 
 for my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in a day or 
 so, which will be well after the rush.
 
 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a 
> next time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might 
> be a friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me 
> from easily upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a 
> portable storage drive.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Kind regards
> Laura 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
>> 
>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a 
>> Portable Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
>>> aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
>>> update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to 
>>> gain more space but not sure I want to do that.
>>> 
>>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from 
>>> the two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It 
>>> started downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely 
>>> it is not meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this 
>>> morning with the same result, so left it alone thinking well if it 
>>> takes that long, so be it. Came back several hours later to find there 
>>> was a message “an error has occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Laura & Susan,
 
 Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
 download over the air and install.
> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
 
 Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
 
 I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
 I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
 
 Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
 This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually 
 transfer the new software back to your device. 
 Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
 (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
 
 If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
 update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
 The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
 
 If you have read my previous posts to the l

Re: iOS8

[Susan Hastings]

It should work, you could try

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:32 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,so I have an iPhone 5 with 16GB.
> Currently has 7.7GB available.
> Am I OK to update to iOS8 using iTunes on my iMac ?
> Or this pushing things ?
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:18 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, the room is needed for the download, not the update itself. Which 
>> is why I did my husbands iPad and iPhone 4S via iTunes. The 4S is only 8 
>> gig. So Lara should be able to update using iTunes. Cheers, Susan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> But Laura, you don't have the room on your iPad to install iOS 8... 
>>> So what is the point in downloading the update if you can't install it?
>>> 
>>> The iOS 8 update won't install until you free up the necessary space on 
>>> your iPad so it can be installed.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:02 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
 
 Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had not 
 considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying.
 
 Regards
 Laura
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to download 
> for my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in a day or 
> so, which will be well after the rush.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a 
>> next time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might 
>> be a friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me 
>> from easily upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a 
>> portable storage drive.
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Laura 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura,
>>> 
>>> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
>>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
>>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a 
>>> Portable Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I 
 am aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install 
 the update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items 
 to gain more space but not sure I want to do that.
 
 Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from 
 the two options available i.e. download only or download and update. 
 It started downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. 
 Surely it is not meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again 
 this morning with the same result, so left it alone thinking well if 
 it takes that long, so be it. Came back several hours later to find 
 there was a message “an error has occurred”.  I think it is all too 
 hard.
 
 Kind regards
 Laura
 
 
 
> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Laura & Susan,
> 
> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
> download over the air and install.
>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
> 
> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
> 
> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
> 
> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from 
> there. 
> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually 
> transfer the new software back to your device. 
> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
> 
> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
> update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
> 
> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not 
> Upgrade to iCloud Drive
> Apple hasn
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Re: iOS8

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks,so I have an iPhone 5 with 16GB.
Currently has 7.7GB available.
Am I OK to update to iOS8 using iTunes on my iMac ?
Or this pushing things ?

On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:18 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:

> Hi Ronni, the room is needed for the download, not the update itself. Which 
> is why I did my husbands iPad and iPhone 4S via iTunes. The 4S is only 8 gig. 
> So Lara should be able to update using iTunes. Cheers, Susan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> But Laura, you don't have the room on your iPad to install iOS 8... 
>> So what is the point in downloading the update if you can't install it?
>> 
>> The iOS 8 update won't install until you free up the necessary space on your 
>> iPad so it can be installed.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:02 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had not 
>>> considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
 
 Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to download 
 for my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in a day or 
 so, which will be well after the rush.
 
 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a 
> next time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might 
> be a friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me 
> from easily upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a 
> portable storage drive.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Kind regards
> Laura 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
>> 
>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a 
>> Portable Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
>>> aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
>>> update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to 
>>> gain more space but not sure I want to do that.
>>> 
>>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from 
>>> the two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It 
>>> started downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely 
>>> it is not meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this 
>>> morning with the same result, so left it alone thinking well if it 
>>> takes that long, so be it. Came back several hours later to find there 
>>> was a message “an error has occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Laura & Susan,
 
 Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
 download over the air and install.
> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
 
 Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
 
 I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
 I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
 
 Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
 This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually 
 transfer the new software back to your device. 
 Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
 (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
 
 If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
 update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
 The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
 
 If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not 
 Upgrade to iCloud Drive
 Apple hasn
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Re: iOS8

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Ronni, the room is needed for the download, not the update itself. Which is 
why I did my husbands iPad and iPhone 4S via iTunes. The 4S is only 8 gig. So 
Lara should be able to update using iTunes. Cheers, Susan

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> But Laura, you don't have the room on your iPad to install iOS 8... 
> So what is the point in downloading the update if you can't install it?
> 
> The iOS 8 update won't install until you free up the necessary space on your 
> iPad so it can be installed.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:02 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had not 
>> considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Laura
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to download 
>>> for my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in a day or so, 
>>> which will be well after the rush.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a next 
 time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might be a 
 friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me from 
 easily upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a portable 
 storage drive.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 Kind regards
 Laura 
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Laura,
> 
> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
> 
> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a 
> Portable Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
>> aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
>> update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain 
>> more space but not sure I want to do that.
>> 
>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from 
>> the two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It 
>> started downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely 
>> it is not meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this 
>> morning with the same result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes 
>> that long, so be it. Came back several hours later to find there was a 
>> message “an error has occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Laura
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura & Susan,
>>> 
>>> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
>>> download over the air and install.
 I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
>>> 
>>> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
>>> 
>>> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
>>> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
>>> 
>>> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
>>> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually 
>>> transfer the new software back to your device. 
>>> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
>>> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
>>> 
>>> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
>>> update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
>>> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
>>> 
>>> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not 
>>> Upgrade to iCloud Drive
>>> Apple hasn
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Re: iOS8

[Ronda Brown]

But Laura, you don't have the room on your iPad to install iOS 8... 
So what is the point in downloading the update if you can't install it?

The iOS 8 update won't install until you free up the necessary space on your 
iPad so it can be installed.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:02 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had not 
> considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying.
> 
> Regards
> Laura
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to download 
>> for my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in a day or so, 
>> which will be well after the rush.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> 
>>> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a next 
>>> time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might be a 
>>> friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me from 
>>> easily upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a portable 
>>> storage drive.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Laura 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Laura,
 
 Do you have a 64GB iPad?
 If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
 reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
 
 Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a 
 Portable Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
> aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
> update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain 
> more space but not sure I want to do that.
> 
> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from 
> the two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It 
> started downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely it 
> is not meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this morning 
> with the same result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes that 
> long, so be it. Came back several hours later to find there was a message 
> “an error has occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
> 
> Kind regards
> Laura
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura & Susan,
>> 
>> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
>> download over the air and install.
>>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
>> 
>> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
>> 
>> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
>> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
>> 
>> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
>> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually 
>> transfer the new software back to your device. 
>> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
>> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
>> 
>> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
>> update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
>> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
>> 
>> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not 
>> Upgrade to iCloud Drive
>> Apple hasn
>>> 
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Re: iOS8

[Laura Webb]

Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had not 
considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying.

Regards
Laura

Sent from my iPad


> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to download for 
> my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in a day or so, which 
> will be well after the rush.
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a next 
>> time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might be a 
>> friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me from easily 
>> upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a portable storage 
>> drive.
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Laura 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura,
>>> 
>>> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
>>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
>>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a Portable 
>>> Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
 aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
 update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain 
 more space but not sure I want to do that.
 
 Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from the 
 two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It 
 started downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely it 
 is not meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this morning 
 with the same result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes that 
 long, so be it. Came back several hours later to find there was a message 
 “an error has occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
 
 Kind regards
 Laura
 
 
 
> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Laura & Susan,
> 
> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
> download over the air and install.
>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
> 
> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
> 
> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
> 
> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually 
> transfer the new software back to your device. 
> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
> 
> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
> update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
> 
> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not 
> Upgrade to iCloud Drive
> Apple hasn
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Re: iOS8

[Susan Hastings]

Sorry, I did mean the download using it connected to my MacBook and via iTunes.


On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:

> Hi Ronni
> 
> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a next 
> time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might be a 
> friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me from easily 
> upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a portable storage 
> drive.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Kind regards
> Laura 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
>> 
>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a Portable 
>> Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
>>> aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
>>> update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain 
>>> more space but not sure I want to do that.
>>> 
>>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from the 
>>> two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It started 
>>> downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely it is not 
>>> meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this morning with the 
>>> same result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes that long, so be 
>>> it. Came back several hours later to find there was a message “an error has 
>>> occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Laura & Susan,
 
 Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
 download over the air and install.
> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
 
 Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
 
 I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
 I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
 
 Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
 This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually transfer 
 the new software back to your device. 
 Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
 (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
 
 If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
 update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
 The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
 
 If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not 
 Upgrade to iCloud Drive
 Apple hasn
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Re: iOS8

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to download for 
my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in a day or so, which 
will be well after the rush.


On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:

> Hi Ronni
> 
> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a next 
> time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might be a 
> friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me from easily 
> upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a portable storage 
> drive.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Kind regards
> Laura 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly 
>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
>> 
>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a Portable 
>> Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
>>> aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
>>> update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain 
>>> more space but not sure I want to do that.
>>> 
>>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from the 
>>> two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It started 
>>> downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely it is not 
>>> meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this morning with the 
>>> same result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes that long, so be 
>>> it. Came back several hours later to find there was a message “an error has 
>>> occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Laura & Susan,
 
 Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
 download over the air and install.
> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
 
 Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
 
 I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
 I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
 
 Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
 This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually transfer 
 the new software back to your device. 
 Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
 (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
 
 If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for 
 update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
 The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
 
 If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not 
 Upgrade to iCloud Drive
 Apple hasn
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[Laura Webb]

Hi Ronni

I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a next time 
for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement might be a friendly 
reminder from Apple it is still, for now, preventing me from easily upgrading 
to iOS8. Not sure the problem warrants buying a portable storage drive.

Thanks again.

Kind regards
Laura 



Sent from my iPad


> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Laura,
> 
> Do you have a 64GB iPad?
> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly reminder 
> from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.
> 
> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a Portable 
> Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni
>> 
>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am 
>> aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the 
>> update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain 
>> more space but not sure I want to do that.
>> 
>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from the 
>> two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It started 
>> downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely it is not 
>> meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this morning with the 
>> same result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes that long, so be it. 
>> Came back several hours later to find there was a message “an error has 
>> occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Laura
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura & Susan,
>>> 
>>> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
>>> download over the air and install.
 I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
>>> 
>>> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
>>> 
>>> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
>>> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
>>> 
>>> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
>>> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually transfer 
>>> the new software back to your device. 
>>> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
>>> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
>>> 
>>> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for update" 
>>> when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
>>> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
>>> 
>>> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not Upgrade 
>>> to iCloud Drive
>>> Apple hasn
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Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[Neil Houghton]

Hehe ­ even with my phone in my pocket, I kept missing calls with any sort
of background noise around ;o)

I  was one of those who helped Pebble raise over $10 million on Kickstarter
­ so that solved that problem ­ I must admit, I never get around to checking
what apps are available for the watch but it was worth it just for the phone
call vibration and the choice of nice watchfaces (and I needed a new watch
then anyway). Also, it¹s pretty cool reading SMSs on your watch ;o)

So, unless my Pebble dies, I¹ll probably wait until the iWatch gets to Mk2
or Mk3 before considering changing.

Given how long the commentators were predicting the watch was coming, and
the anticipation generated, I expect Apple will sell quite a few ;o)



Cheers




Neil
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on 20/9/14 12:16, Susan Hastings at susanhasti...@mac.com wrote:

> Hi Daniel and Ronni, I¹ve decided on the 6 plus because of the camera/video
> options with stabilisation. Also nice to have the bigger viewfinder.
> 
> OOPS! its supposed to be a phone and won¹t fit into my pocket.
> 
> Which means I will need an Apple Watch so I can leave the iPhone in my
> handbag.  At least they are not being released at the same time and I will
> have time to save for for the watch.
> 
> I pre-ordered online as quickly as possible on the 12th, but it was good to
> actually have a look at both of the the iphones at Allphones at Belmont Forum
> yesterday. They had the 4.7 iPhones for sale on plans with Vodafone. Lots of
> great options and incredibly good value. Much more so than Telstra. Pity about
> the coverage. We are also out of our contract and running on Telstra month by
> month, but I prefer to buy the phone outright than sign up for a 24 month
> contract. And have to stay with Telstra because we travel away from the city
> so much and need the coverage.
> 
> cheers, Susan.
> 
> 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:03 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-))
>> Our Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2 year
>> contract for some time, is better for both of us!
>> 
>> It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy Of course they
>> don't because they want "more money from US BOTH & lock us into a two year
>> plan"
>> No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new iPhone
>>> 6 "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).
>>> It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features
>>> as I have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480
>>> over the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 to
>>> my wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be what
>>> they're going for),Šthat's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't call it
>>> a "saving", as it's not "technically" a saving per say,Šlol. Which is pretty
>>> close to the price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself
>>> mostly over that 2 year periodŠ..
>>> I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)Š.lol. I
>>> ended up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol.
>>> 
>>> Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can
>>> be purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ued and ared
>>> about the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more reviews
>>> and seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 standard. It
>>> goes into my pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss the few "extra
>>> features" for me anyway.
>>> 
>>> But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth guy that
>>> just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his hand as
>>> he was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's gone like wildfire
>>> around the world showing him doing it. He's on the Whirlpool "Perth camp
>>> out" forum I've been following. He said his phone is perfect and not marked,
>>> so wasn't an issue, bar a bit red-faced,Š.lol. Lucky!
>>> 
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
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>>> Email: http://macwizardry.com.au/> >
>>> Web:   
>>>   >
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of
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>>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any
>>> information in 

Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[Ronda Brown]

Yeah... And of course you know I had to upgrade from my beloved iPhone4-Steve 
to a iPhone 6 Plus so I will be compatible with the AppleWatch when it is 
released next year... ;-)

Nope, my iPhone has not arrived as yet... And yes, I might end up receiving 
numerous iPhone 6 Plus iPhones :( thank God they are hard to get, so Apple 
might only allow me to have ONE... I Hope...
Might need to sell my iPhone 4S-teve. I haven't told 'The Family' yet as I 
always give my devices / computers / Time Capsules (all my technology) to 
family or friends when I upgrade :(
This time I'm hoping to get some MONEY for my iPhone!!

Yeah I heard about the Chinese people doing the wrong thing as they have every 
time a new iPhone is launched. Also Pushing ahead in the queue... very rude, 
not the Aussie Way at all! 
And then one that got caught was most upset and ranted and raved when taken out 
of the line and taken away by the police... God almighty, they think they can 
break the rules and always get away with it.

/End of Ronni's Rant

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:09 pm, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Yep, we know better eh Ronni,….lol.
> The money is better in our pocket then Telstra's,….lol.
> Hope you enjoy your iPhone 6+. Too big for me I'm afraid,…but then you and i 
> work a little differently :o) hehe. And I think I'd be lost if it didn't fit 
> in my jeans pocket like normal!! lol ;)
> (Might be different in 2015 with an iPhone 6s Plus and an AppleWatch :oP 
> hehe. ;o)
> 
> We can save all the extra money we "save" by not being on plan and save it 
> for an AppleWatch,…..lol. :o) hehehe.
> 
> Did yours arrive on Friday on time? (or did you miss the date like you 
> thought you might do,…..)? (or did 6 turn up like you thought you may have 
> done as well,….lol.hehe).
> Did you read about the "hawkers" paying $120 extra for others to buy phones 
> to take back to China etc. (Apparently were walking around $20,000 cash 
> passing it around to people to buy them for them,…to resell). Around $2000 
> selling back over. (one customs person I read said one guy had over 20 phones 
> going through to claim back the GST and was holding up the queue for 
> others,…).
> 
> Enjoy your new iPhone! :o))
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of MacWizardry. 
> Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of warranty or 
> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
> email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the 
> author be requested. 
> 
>> On 20/09/2014, at 12:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-))
>> Our Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2 year 
>> contract for some time, is better for both of us!
>> 
>> It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy Of course they 
>> don't because they want "more money from US BOTH & lock us into a two year 
>> plan"
>> No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new iPhone 
>>> 6 "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).
>>> It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features 
>>> as I have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480 
>>> over the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 
>>> to my wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be 
>>> what they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't 
>>> call it a "saving", as it's not "technically" a saving per say,…lol. Which 
>>> is pretty close to the price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it pays 
>>> for itself mostly over that 2 year period…..
>>> I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)….lol. I 
>>> ended up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol.
>>> 
>>> Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can 
>>> be purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ued and ared 
>>> about the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more 
>>> reviews and seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 
>>> standard. It goes into my pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss 
>>> the few "extra features" for me anyway.
>>> 
>>> But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth guy 
>>> that just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his 
>>> hand as he was g

Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[rblit]

Hi DanielAre you saying buy outright and then get a Telstra plan?Which
plan?Who do you buy outright from?
Please are you able to share your calculations? taBlitto

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:09:58 +0800
Subject:Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

 Yep, we know better eh Ronni,….lol.The money is better in our
pocket then Telstra's,….lol. Hope you enjoy your iPhone 6+. Too big
for me I'm afraid,…but then you and i work a little differently :o)
hehe. And I think I'd be lost if it didn't fit in my jeans pocket like
normal!! lol ;) (Might be different in 2015 with an iPhone 6s Plus and
an AppleWatch :oP hehe. ;o) 
 We can save all the extra money we "save" by not being on plan and
save it for an AppleWatch,…..lol. :o) hehehe. 
 Did yours arrive on Friday on time? (or did you miss the date like
you thought you might do,…..)? (or did 6 turn up like you thought
you may have done as well,….lol.hehe). Did you read about the
"hawkers" paying $120 extra for others to buy phones to take back to
China etc. (Apparently were walking around $20,000 cash passing it
around to people to buy them for them,…to resell). Around $2000
selling back over. (one customs person I read said one guy had over 20
phones going through to claim back the GST and was holding up the
queue for others,…). 
 Enjoy your new iPhone! :o)) 
 Kind regards Daniel 
 Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)  
   ---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
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appreciated that if any information in this email is to be
disseminated, distributed or copied, that permission by the author be
requested.    
 On 20/09/2014, at 12:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote: 
  Hi Daniel, 
 As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-)) Our
Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2
year contract for some time, is better for both of us! 
 It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy Of course
they don't because they want "_MORE MONEY FROM US BOTH & LOCK US INTO
A TWO YEAR PLAN"_
No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-) 
 Cheers, Ronni  
Sent from Ronni's iPad4 

On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:

  Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new
iPhone 6 "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).It took me
a while to get them to understand that to get the same features as I
have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480
over the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my
iPhone 5 to my wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400
(seems to be what they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830
minimum. (I won't call it a "saving", as it's not "technically" a
saving per say,…lol. Which is pretty close to the price of an iPhone
6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself mostly over that 2 year
period….. I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my
logic)….lol. I ended up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about
it,..lol. 
 Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock
and can be purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ued
and ared about the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've
read some more reviews and seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on
the iPhone 6 standard. It goes into my pocket a lot better. And I
don't think I'll miss the few "extra features" for me anyway. 
 But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth
guy that just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out
of his hand as he was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's
gone like wildfire around the world showing him doing it He's on the
Whirlpool "Perth camp out" forum I've been following. He said his
phone is perfect and not marked, so wasn't an issue, bar a bit
red-faced,….lol. Lucky!  
 Enjoy! 
 Kind regards Daniel 
 Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)  
   ---
Daniel Kerr
MacWizardry

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requested.    
 On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au [7] wrote: 
 Thanks Susan!I followed the link after the video and he writes about
the camera comparisons between 5S and 6. Very interesting!! And
feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expir

Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[Susan Hastings]

Hi Daniel and Ronni, I’ve decided on the 6 plus because of the camera/video 
options with stabilisation. Also nice to have the bigger viewfinder.

OOPS! its supposed to be a phone and won’t fit into my pocket.

Which means I will need an Apple Watch so I can leave the iPhone in my handbag. 
 At least they are not being released at the same time and I will have time to 
save for for the watch.

I pre-ordered online as quickly as possible on the 12th, but it was good to 
actually have a look at both of the the iphones at Allphones at Belmont Forum 
yesterday. They had the 4.7 iPhones for sale on plans with Vodafone. Lots of 
great options and incredibly good value. Much more so than Telstra. Pity about 
the coverage. We are also out of our contract and running on Telstra month by 
month, but I prefer to buy the phone outright than sign up for a 24 month 
contract. And have to stay with Telstra because we travel away from the city so 
much and need the coverage.

cheers, Susan.


On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:03 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> 
> As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-))
> Our Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2 year 
> contract for some time, is better for both of us!
> 
> It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy Of course they 
> don't because they want "more money from US BOTH & lock us into a two year 
> plan"
> No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
>> Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new iPhone 
>> 6 "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).
>> It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features 
>> as I have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480 
>> over the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 to 
>> my wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be what 
>> they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't call it 
>> a "saving", as it's not "technically" a saving per say,…lol. Which is pretty 
>> close to the price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself 
>> mostly over that 2 year period…..
>> I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)….lol. I 
>> ended up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol.
>> 
>> Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can 
>> be purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ued and ared 
>> about the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more reviews 
>> and seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 standard. It 
>> goes into my pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss the few "extra 
>> features" for me anyway.
>> 
>> But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth guy that 
>> just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his hand as 
>> he was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's gone like wildfire 
>> around the world showing him doing it. He's on the Whirlpool "Perth camp 
>> out" forum I've been following. He said his phone is perfect and not marked, 
>> so wasn't an issue, bar a bit red-faced,….lol. Lucky! 
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> NOTE: Any information provided in this email may be my personal opinion and 
>> as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of 
>> MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any form of 
>> warranty or accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any 
>> information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or copied, that 
>> permission by the author be requested. 
>> 
>> On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Susan!
>>> I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera 
>>> comparisons between 5S and 6.
>>> Very interesting!!
>>> And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month
>>> :)
>>> blitto 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> To:
>>> "wamug@wamug.org.au List" 
>>> Cc:
>>> 
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>>> Subject:
>>> Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This may be of interest. The footage is shot in Iceland.
>>> 
>>> http://austinmann.com/trek/iphone-6-plus-camera-review-iceland
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Re: iOS8

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Laura,

Do you have a 64GB iPad?
If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly reminder 
from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next time.

Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a Portable 
Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive?

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni
> 
> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am aware 
> of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the update. I 
> have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain more space but 
> not sure I want to do that.
> 
> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from the 
> two options available i.e. download only or download and update. It started 
> downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely it is not 
> meant to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this morning with the 
> same result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes that long, so be it. 
> Came back several hours later to find there was a message “an error has 
> occurred”.  I think it is all too hard.
> 
> Kind regards
> Laura
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Laura & Susan,
>> 
>> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
>> download over the air and install.
>>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
>> 
>> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
>> 
>> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
>> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
>> 
>> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
>> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually transfer 
>> the new software back to your device. 
>> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
>> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
>> 
>> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for update" 
>> when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
>> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
>> 
>> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not Upgrade 
>> to iCloud Drive
>> Apple hasn’t officially released Yosemite yet, iCloud Drive doesn’t work in 
>> 10.9 Mavericks, and upgrading your iCloud account to use iCloud Drive in iOS 
>> 8 is a one-way street — once you upgrade, you can’t go back to the old 
>> document- and app-specific approach that’s compatible with Mavericks. 
>> So when iOS 8 asks you to upgrade to iCloud Drive, tap Not Now.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:05 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Laura, you don’t have to sync in order to do the update. It asks if you 
>>> want to do a backup first, but if you are already syncing with the The 
>>> Cloud, you can skip that step and just do the update. 
>>> 
>>> This is speaking from experience, I freed up space on my iPad and did the 
>>> update over wireless, but connected my husband’s iPad to my Mac to do the 
>>> update.
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure what there is to grumble about really, just use one method or 
>>> the other. It was faster using my Mac.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 19 Sep 2014, at 3:59 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
 
 I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade, I was 
 interested to read the following on the BBC News web site. It seems there 
 are many just as disgruntled as I am.
 
 "Apple users can avoid the need to free up storage space for the latest 
 update by upgrading their software via iTunes on a Mac or PC, instead of 
 through the phone or tablet itself."
 
 If I follow that suggestion does it mean that I would then Sync my iPad 
 and achieve the upgrade that way,
 
 Any advice appreciated.
 
 Regards
 Laura
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
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Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[Daniel Kerr]

Yep, we know better eh Ronni,….lol.
The money is better in our pocket then Telstra's,….lol.
Hope you enjoy your iPhone 6+. Too big for me I'm afraid,…but then you and i 
work a little differently :o) hehe. And I think I'd be lost if it didn't fit in 
my jeans pocket like normal!! lol ;)
(Might be different in 2015 with an iPhone 6s Plus and an AppleWatch :oP hehe. 
;o)

We can save all the extra money we "save" by not being on plan and save it for 
an AppleWatch,…..lol. :o) hehehe.

Did yours arrive on Friday on time? (or did you miss the date like you thought 
you might do,…..)? (or did 6 turn up like you thought you may have done as 
well,….lol.hehe).
Did you read about the "hawkers" paying $120 extra for others to buy phones to 
take back to China etc. (Apparently were walking around $20,000 cash passing it 
around to people to buy them for them,…to resell). Around $2000 selling back 
over. (one customs person I read said one guy had over 20 phones going through 
to claim back the GST and was holding up the queue for others,…).

Enjoy your new iPhone! :o))

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 20/09/2014, at 12:03 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> 
> As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-))
> Our Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2 year 
> contract for some time, is better for both of us!
> 
> It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy Of course they 
> don't because they want "more money from US BOTH & lock us into a two year 
> plan"
> No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
>> Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new iPhone 
>> 6 "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).
>> It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features 
>> as I have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480 
>> over the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 to 
>> my wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be what 
>> they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't call it 
>> a "saving", as it's not "technically" a saving per say,…lol. Which is pretty 
>> close to the price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself 
>> mostly over that 2 year period…..
>> I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)….lol. I 
>> ended up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol.
>> 
>> Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can 
>> be purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ued and ared 
>> about the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more reviews 
>> and seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 standard. It 
>> goes into my pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss the few "extra 
>> features" for me anyway.
>> 
>> But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth guy that 
>> just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his hand as 
>> he was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's gone like wildfire 
>> around the world showing him doing it. He's on the Whirlpool "Perth camp 
>> out" forum I've been following. He said his phone is perfect and not marked, 
>> so wasn't an issue, bar a bit red-faced,….lol. Lucky! 
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)
>> 
>> ---
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>> MacWizardry
>> 
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>> Email: 
>> Web:   
>> 
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>> 
>> On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Susan!
>>> I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera 
>>> comparisons between 5S and 6.
>>> Very interesting!!
>>> And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month
>>> :)
>>> blitto 
>>> 
>

Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[Susan Hastings]

I found it wouldn’t load at all on my iPad. I should have mentioned this.

I had to check it out on my Macbook.


On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:00 pm, John Daniels  wrote:

> Hi Susan
> I have tried to access the Iceland review and find that the site opens but 
> then my ipad reverts to the desktop. This happens in Safari and Chrome. Any 
> clues?
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 10:54 am, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Susan!
>> I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera 
>> comparisons between 5S and 6.
>> Very interesting!!
>> And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month
>> :)
>> blitto 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "wamug@wamug.org.au List" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:11:52 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+
>> 
>> 
>> This may be of interest. The footage is shot in Iceland.
>> 
>> http://austinmann.com/trek/iphone-6-plus-camera-review-iceland
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[Ronda Brown]

Hi Daniel,

As we discussed awhile back before ordered my iPhone 6 Plus ;-))
Our Telstra monthly plans (since we have both been out of the Telstra 2 year 
contract for some time, is better for both of us!

It's funny how Telstra fail to understand our analogy Of course they don't 
because they want "more money from US BOTH & lock us into a two year plan"
No Way Telstra say Daniel and Ronni :-)

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:12 am, Daniel Kerr  wrote:
> 
> Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new iPhone 6 
> "for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).
> It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features as 
> I have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480 over 
> the 2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 to my 
> wife and sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be what 
> they're going for),…that's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't call it 
> a "saving", as it's not "technically" a saving per say,…lol. Which is pretty 
> close to the price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself 
> mostly over that 2 year period…..
> I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)….lol. I ended 
> up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol.
> 
> Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can be 
> purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ued and ared about 
> the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more reviews and 
> seen them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 standard. It goes 
> into my pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss the few "extra 
> features" for me anyway.
> 
> But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth guy that 
> just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his hand as he 
> was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's gone like wildfire 
> around the world showing him doing it. He's on the Whirlpool "Perth camp out" 
> forum I've been following. He said his phone is perfect and not marked, so 
> wasn't an issue, bar a bit red-faced,….lol. Lucky! 
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
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> 
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> 
>> On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Susan!
>> I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera 
>> comparisons between 5S and 6.
>> Very interesting!!
>> And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month
>> :)
>> blitto 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "wamug@wamug.org.au List" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:11:52 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+
>> 
>> 
>> This may be of interest. The footage is shot in Iceland.
>> 
>> http://austinmann.com/trek/iphone-6-plus-camera-review-iceland
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Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[John Daniels]

Hi Susan
I have tried to access the Iceland review and find that the site opens but then 
my ipad reverts to the desktop. This happens in Safari and Chrome. Any clues?
John

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Sep 2014, at 10:54 am, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> Thanks Susan!
> I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera 
> comparisons between 5S and 6.
> Very interesting!!
> And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month
> :)
> blitto 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "wamug@wamug.org.au List" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:11:52 +0800
> Subject:
> Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+
> 
> 
> This may be of interest. The footage is shot in Iceland.
> 
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Re: iOS8

[Laura Webb]

Hi Ronni

Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I am aware 
of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install the update. I have 
3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items to gain more space but not 
sure I want to do that.

Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” from the two 
options available i.e. download only or download and update. It started 
downloading then advised there were 15 hours remaining. Surely it is not meant 
to take that long. I cancelled and tried again this morning with the same 
result, so left it alone thinking well if it takes that long, so be it. Came 
back several hours later to find there was a message “an error has occurred”.  
I think it is all too hard.

Kind regards
Laura



On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:

> Hi Laura & Susan,
> 
> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to 
> download over the air and install.
>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade
> 
> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB
> 
> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.
> 
> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually transfer 
> the new software back to your device. 
> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 
> 
> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for update" 
> when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.
> 
> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not Upgrade 
> to iCloud Drive
> Apple hasn’t officially released Yosemite yet, iCloud Drive doesn’t work in 
> 10.9 Mavericks, and upgrading your iCloud account to use iCloud Drive in iOS 
> 8 is a one-way street — once you upgrade, you can’t go back to the old 
> document- and app-specific approach that’s compatible with Mavericks. 
> So when iOS 8 asks you to upgrade to iCloud Drive, tap Not Now.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:05 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Laura, you don’t have to sync in order to do the update. It asks if you 
>> want to do a backup first, but if you are already syncing with the The 
>> Cloud, you can skip that step and just do the update. 
>> 
>> This is speaking from experience, I freed up space on my iPad and did the 
>> update over wireless, but connected my husband’s iPad to my Mac to do the 
>> update.
>> 
>> I’m not sure what there is to grumble about really, just use one method or 
>> the other. It was faster using my Mac.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 3:59 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade, I was 
>>> interested to read the following on the BBC News web site. It seems there 
>>> are many just as disgruntled as I am.
>>> 
>>> "Apple users can avoid the need to free up storage space for the latest 
>>> update by upgrading their software via iTunes on a Mac or PC, instead of 
>>> through the phone or tablet itself."
>>> 
>>> If I follow that suggestion does it mean that I would then Sync my iPad and 
>>> achieve the upgrade that way,
>>> 
>>> Any advice appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
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Re: Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

[Daniel Kerr]

Yes,.I already had Telstra call me to "upgrade" my plan to get a new iPhone 6 
"for free". (and put me back on a 2 year contract).
It took me a while to get them to understand that to get the same features as I 
have now, it would cost me $20 extra per month. ($240 per year,..$480 over the 
2 year contract). Then take into account I then give my iPhone 5 to my wife and 
sell her iPhone 4s 64Gb for around $350-$400 (seems to be what they're going 
for),…that's a "total" of about $830 minimum. (I won't call it a "saving", as 
it's not "technically" a saving per say,…lol. Which is pretty close to the 
price of an iPhone 6 64GB at $999. So really it pays for itself mostly over 
that 2 year period…..
I don't think they could follow my maths, (or perhaps my logic)….lol. I ended 
up just saying,..thanks I won't worry about it,..lol.

Now I just have to actually find an iPhone 6 64GB that is in stock and can be 
purchased outright. I was going to pre-order but I ued and ared about 
the iPhone 6 versus the iPhone 6 Plus. Now I've read some more reviews and seen 
them "live" and in videos, I'm sold on the iPhone 6 standard. It goes into my 
pocket a lot better. And I don't think I'll miss the few "extra features" for 
me anyway.

But they do look like quite a nice phone. (felt sorry for the Perth guy that 
just got it and was showing it to the media and it fell out of his hand as he 
was getting it out of the box on the pavement.. It's gone like wildfire around 
the world showing him doing it. He's on the Whirlpool "Perth camp out" forum 
I've been following. He said his phone is perfect and not marked, so wasn't an 
issue, bar a bit red-faced,….lol. Lucky! 

Enjoy!

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5 (soon to be 6)

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On 20/09/2014, at 10:54 AM, rb...@iinet.net.au wrote:

> Thanks Susan!
> I followed the link after the video and he writes about the camera 
> comparisons between 5S and 6.
> Very interesting!!
> And feeding my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next month
> :)
> blitto 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "wamug@wamug.org.au List" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:11:52 +0800
> Subject:
> Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+
> 
> 
> This may be of interest. The footage is shot in Iceland.
> 
> http://austinmann.com/trek/iphone-6-plus-camera-review-iceland
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[rblit]

Thanks Susan!I followed the link after the video and he writes about
the camera comparisons between 5S and 6.Very interesting!!And feeding
my justification to get a 6 when mu contract expires next
month:)blitto 

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To:"wamug@wamug.org.au List" 
Cc:
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Subject:Review of the video capabilities of the iPhone 6+

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[Susan Hastings]

This may be of interest. The footage is shot in Iceland.

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Re: iOS8

[Daniel Kerr]

Arrr man,…so you mean I shouldn't have put iOS8 on all my devices and 
Yosemite 10.10 Public Beta build on all my computers…… "just for fun" :o))

Sorry, couldn't resist,…. :o)

(And yes, I advised a few of my clients to "just wait" a little for iOS8 to 
see,….) ;o)
I know some Apps they have definitely wouldn't play well,…and it would be at 
the most important moment they need it, it would stop working,…..

I only put iOS8 on my iPad,..not on my iPhone yet,…. :o) Still waiting to 
see,…. ;o)

Enjoy

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 19/09/2014, at 5:20 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Important Notice for IceTV users upgrading to iOS 8:
> 
> The IceTV app has compatibility issues on devices that have been updated to 
> iOS 8. 
> An update to the IceTV app that fixes these issues will be available for 
> download from the App Store within the next week.
> 
> Again I stress people read my previous post the other day about waiting until 
> developers update their Apps to be compatible with iOS 8.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
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[Ronda Brown]

Important Notice for IceTV users upgrading to iOS 8:

The IceTV app has compatibility issues on devices that have been updated to iOS 
8. 
An update to the IceTV app that fixes these issues will be available for 
download from the App Store within the next week.

Again I stress people read my previous post the other day about waiting until 
developers update their Apps to be compatible with iOS 8.

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: iOS8

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Laura & Susan,

Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad to download 
over the air and install.
> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade

Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB

I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac.
I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first.

Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from there. 
This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually transfer the 
new software back to your device. 
Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA 
(over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. 

If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for update" 
when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone."
The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device.

If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not Upgrade to 
iCloud Drive
Apple hasn’t officially released Yosemite yet, iCloud Drive doesn’t work in 
10.9 Mavericks, and upgrading your iCloud account to use iCloud Drive in iOS 8 
is a one-way street — once you upgrade, you can’t go back to the old document- 
and app-specific approach that’s compatible with Mavericks. 
So when iOS 8 asks you to upgrade to iCloud Drive, tap Not Now.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:05 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:

> Hi Laura, you don’t have to sync in order to do the update. It asks if you 
> want to do a backup first, but if you are already syncing with the The Cloud, 
> you can skip that step and just do the update. 
> 
> This is speaking from experience, I freed up space on my iPad and did the 
> update over wireless, but connected my husband’s iPad to my Mac to do the 
> update.
> 
> I’m not sure what there is to grumble about really, just use one method or 
> the other. It was faster using my Mac.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Sep 2014, at 3:59 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:
> 
>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade, I was 
>> interested to read the following on the BBC News web site. It seems there 
>> are many just as disgruntled as I am.
>> 
>> "Apple users can avoid the need to free up storage space for the latest 
>> update by upgrading their software via iTunes on a Mac or PC, instead of 
>> through the phone or tablet itself."
>> 
>> If I follow that suggestion does it mean that I would then Sync my iPad and 
>> achieve the upgrade that way,
>> 
>> Any advice appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Laura
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 

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[Susan Hastings]

Hi Laura, you don’t have to sync in order to do the update. It asks if you want 
to do a backup first, but if you are already syncing with the The Cloud, you 
can skip that step and just do the update. 

This is speaking from experience, I freed up space on my iPad and did the 
update over wireless, but connected my husband’s iPad to my Mac to do the 
update.

I’m not sure what there is to grumble about really, just use one method or the 
other. It was faster using my Mac.




On 19 Sep 2014, at 3:59 pm, Laura Webb  wrote:

> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade, I was 
> interested to read the following on the BBC News web site. It seems there are 
> many just as disgruntled as I am.
> 
> "Apple users can avoid the need to free up storage space for the latest 
> update by upgrading their software via iTunes on a Mac or PC, instead of 
> through the phone or tablet itself."
> 
> If I follow that suggestion does it mean that I would then Sync my iPad and 
> achieve the upgrade that way,
> 
> Any advice appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> Laura
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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[Susan Hastings]

I went and had a look at the iPhone 6 and 6+ this afternoon, just to see what 
they look like in the flesh, so to speak. I have to say that I’m not sure I 
like the new design. Has anyone else had a ‘hands on’?

On 19 Sep 2014, at 3:50 pm, Brian Risbey  wrote:

> Used the camera and video, better light 'spot' metering selector, when 
> dealing with high contrast, bright background , predictive text in Mail is 
> clever!
> 
> Brian
> Sent from my iPhone5
> iOS 8😉
> 
> On 19 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> That is good enough for me, Susan!   
> Severin
> 
> On 19 Sep 2014, at 2:09 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
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>> It's pretty!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 12:02 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>>> Deathly WAMUG silence on iOS8 since its release.  
>>> Any feedback yet?
>>> Severin  Crisp
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
>>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>>>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au
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iOS8

[Laura Webb]

I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade, I was interested 
to read the following on the BBC News web site. It seems there are many just as 
disgruntled as I am.

"Apple users can avoid the need to free up storage space for the latest update 
by upgrading their software via iTunes on a Mac or PC, instead of through the 
phone or tablet itself."

If I follow that suggestion does it mean that I would then Sync my iPad and 
achieve the upgrade that way,

Any advice appreciated.

Regards
Laura



Sent from my iPad

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Used the camera and video, better light 'spot' metering selector, when dealing 
with high contrast, bright background , predictive text in Mail is clever!

Brian
Sent from my iPhone5
iOS 8😉

On 19 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Severin Crisp  wrote:

That is good enough for me, Susan!   
Severin

> On 19 Sep 2014, at 2:09 pm, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> It's pretty!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 12:02 pm, Severin Crisp  wrote:
>> 
>> Deathly WAMUG silence on iOS8 since its release.  
>> Any feedback yet?
>> Severin  Crisp
>> 
>> 
>>  Assoc Prof R Severin Crisp, FAIP, FIP, CPhys
>> 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia
>>   ph (08) 9842 1950 ( Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>>mail to: sevcr...@westnet.com.au
>> 
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