Photos

2015-10-03 Thread FW
Hi all,

After installing 10.11 photos won’t open.
The following message shows:

“Photos must quit because the photo library has become unavailable or its data 
is corrupt”

The old iPhotos is still working.

Any  suggestions ?

Cheers
Walter
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

2015-10-03 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Stephen,

> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS version, 
> or has become redundant. 

You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen, 
> 
> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
> 
> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
> 
> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS version, 
> or has become redundant. 
> 
> Cheers & nice week-end, 
> 
> Philippe C
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hello Phillipe,
> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
> I still run that before and after every update.
> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
> updates.
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>> 
>> Safe week-end to All, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous upgrade 
>> from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most improvements are 
>> under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
>>> and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
>>> working correctly.
>>> 
>>> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
>>> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum 
>>> speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
>>> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
>>> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
>>> permissions. I guess this is good news?
>>> 
>>> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
>>> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
>>> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know 
>>> how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
>>> back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
>>> 
>>> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
>>> 
>>> Philippe C.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
 wrote:
 
 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
 
 Hi Philippe,
 Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
 MacBookPro).
 Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
 warn you that it does.
 There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
 check updates.
 It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
 afterwards. I will try again later.
 Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
 redundant?, auto?
 I did look Ronni!
>>> 
>>> Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
>>> this at
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows 

Re: Photos

2015-10-03 Thread FW
Thanks Ronni,
Done, repaired already, photos are back.

Thanks again

Cheers
Walter
> On 3 Oct 2015, at 17:17 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Walter,
> 
> Hold down the key combination alt/options key and command key ⌥⌘ while double 
> clicking the Photos icon. Click the "Repair" button and repair the library. 
> 
> This may take a while for a large library.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 3 Oct 2015, at 4:39 pm, FW  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> After installing 10.11 photos won’t open.
>> The following message shows:
>> 
>> “Photos must quit because the photo library has become unavailable or its 
>> data is corrupt”
>> 
>> The old iPhotos is still working.
>> 
>> Any  suggestions ?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Walter
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Re: Photos

2015-10-03 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Walter,

Hold down the key combination alt/options key and command key ⌥⌘ while double 
clicking the Photos icon. Click the "Repair" button and repair the library. 

This may take a while for a large library.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 3 Oct 2015, at 4:39 pm, FW  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> After installing 10.11 photos won’t open.
> The following message shows:
> 
> “Photos must quit because the photo library has become unavailable or its 
> data is corrupt”
> 
> The old iPhotos is still working.
> 
> Any  suggestions ?
> 
> Cheers
> Walter
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

2015-10-03 Thread Stephen Chape
Thanks Ronni
Sounds brilliant to me !

> On 3 Oct 2015, at 5:54 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
> 
> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stephen, 
>> 
>> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
>> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
>> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
>> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
>> 
>> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
>> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
>> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
>> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
>> 
>> Cheers & nice week-end, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Phillipe,
>> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
>> I still run that before and after every update.
>> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
>> updates.
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robin,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>>> 
>>> Safe week-end to All, 
>>> 
>>> Philippe C
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous 
>>> upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most 
>>> improvements are under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
 
 Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
 and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel 
 is working correctly.
 
 One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, 
 which after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its 
 maximum speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, 
 and no applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with 
 no luck and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the 
 problem. 
 
 Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
 permissions. I guess this is good news?
 
 I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
 applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am 
 a bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not 
 know how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
 back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
 
 Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
 
 Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
 
 Philippe C.
 
 
 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe > wrote:
 
 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
> MacBookPro).
> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
> warn you that it does.
> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
> check updates.
> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
> afterwards. I will try again later.
> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
> redundant?, auto?
> I did look Ronni!
> 
> 
 
 Permissions repair and verify have 

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

2015-10-03 Thread Michael Hawkins
Hi Ronni, 

Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released every 
three weeks or so ?

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
> 
> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen, 
>> 
>> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
>> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
>> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
>> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
>> 
>> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
>> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
>> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
>> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
>> 
>> Cheers & nice week-end, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Phillipe,
>> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
>> I still run that before and after every update.
>> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
>> updates.
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robin,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>>> 
>>> Safe week-end to All, 
>>> 
>>> Philippe C
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous 
>>> upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most 
>>> improvements are under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>>> 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
 
 Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
 and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel 
 is working correctly.
 
 One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, 
 which after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its 
 maximum speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, 
 and no applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with 
 no luck and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the 
 problem. 
 
 Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
 permissions. I guess this is good news?
 
 I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
 applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am 
 a bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not 
 know how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
 back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
 
 Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
 
 Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
 
 Philippe C.
 
 
 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
> MacBookPro).
> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
> warn you that it does.
> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
> check updates.
> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
> afterwards. I will try again later.
> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
> redundant?, auto?
> I did look Ronni!
 
 Permissions repair and 

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

2015-10-03 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Michael,

To answer your question, I’ll need to explain to you what “Repair Permissions” 
using Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan repaired. I’ll reply to the list 
in another email with a suitable subject heading.

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 1:21 am, Michael Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, 
> 
> Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
> this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
> lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released 
> every three weeks or so ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown > 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>>> version, or has become redundant. 
>> 
>> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
>> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 

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Re: Time machine HD

2015-10-03 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi Walter,
If it is any consolation, mine has done that on & off for a long time.
But does not seem to effect the backups (that I am aware).

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 9:10 am, FW  wrote:
> 
> Good morning all,
> 
> What is the reason for the time machine HD ikon on the screen not changing to 
> the familiar green TM clock logo.
> Instead it shows the original yellow colour of a HD. The HD is used only for 
> the TM backups. On the Get Info
> screen it shows the TM ikon. In the TM system preferences that HD is assigned 
> to TM and TM turned on.
> Previously, it always took some time after reconnecting the HD to the iMac. 
> Now it won’t.
> 
> Any suggestions ?
> 
> Thanks
> Walter
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Repair Permissions in Disk Utility prior to OS X 10.11 El Capitan - Reset Home Folder Permissions in Terminal

2015-10-03 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Michael and any member interested in this subject,

Michael’s previous questions to the list under the Subject: Re: the spinning 
beach ball has changed!

> "Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
> this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
> lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released 
> every three weeks or so ?"


To answer your question, I’ll need to explain to you what “Repair Permissions” 
using Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan repaired. 
Hopefully below will help answer your previous questions.

Repair Permissions in Disk Utility - Reset Home Folder Permissions in Terminal  

Part A of my Reply:
Repair Permissions in Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan 

In OS X, each file contains information specifying which users (or parts of the 
system) can read it, modify it, or execute it. 
This information is collectively known as permissions. If a file has incorrect 
permissions, it can cause apps to misbehave in various ways, such as crashing 
or failing to launch.

Ordinarily, installers set the correct permissions for the files they install, 
and the permissions stay that way permanently. However, a poorly written 
installer can mess up permissions — even for files it did not install — and if 
you use Unix commands such as chown and chmod, you can accidentally set files’ 
permissions incorrectly. 
These sorts of problems occur infrequently, but they do occur.

The Repair Permissions feature looks for certain software installed using 
Apple’s installer, which saves files called receipts that list the locations 
and initial permissions of all the files in a given package. Repair Permissions 
compares the current permissions to those in the receipts and, if it finds any 
differences, changes the files back. 
The command ignores software installed in other ways (using a different 
installer or drag-and-drop installation, for instance) and knows nothing about 
permission changes you may have made deliberately.

Permissions don’t go out of whack all by themselves; you (or software you 
install) must do something to change them. 

Are all files affected by Repair Disk Permissions?

No. As you may have inferred from the above description, only those files 
installed using OS X’s Installer utility and whose installation packages leave 
behind a proper receipt in /Library/Receipts are affected by the Repair Disk 
Permissions function. 

This means that most of the files affected by the Repair Disk Permissions 
function are system-level files, application files, or system add-ons—not 
applications installed by drag-and-drop, and not your documents or other 
user-level files.
Repairing permissions is mainly a tool for fixing 'permissions-related' 
problems with OS-level Apple software .
But beyond that, only certain receipts are referenced, all of them associated 
with OS-X-related software.

Although some might argue that restricting the Repair Disk Permissions function 
to Apple-installed software is a limitation, it’s also good security. If 
third-party receipts were used as references when repairing permissions, a 
piece of malware could leave behind a receipt designed to maliciously change 
permissions on system-level files—for example, to assign more-accessible 
permissions on normally secure files and directories. This could be a major 
security risk.

But starting in OS X 10.11 El Capitan, the Repair Permissions feature is gone 
from Disk Utility entirely.
Beginning with OS X El Capitan, system file permissions are automatically 
protected. 
It's no longer necessary to verify or repair permissions with Disk Utility.
 Instead, permissions are repaired automatically when you install software 
using Apple’s installer.
—
Part B of my Reply:
Does repairing permissions affect third-party application files?

Apple’s description of the Repair Disk Permissions function seems to imply that 
any software, including third-party software, installed using Installer and 
accompanied by a receipt in /Library/Receipts is affected by repairing 
permissions. 
However, we know from my previous reply above that this isn’t the case. The 
only third-party software affected by repairing permissions is software 
included with Mac OS X and installed by the Mac OS X Installer.

Reset Home Folder Permissions in Terminal

Disk Utility only checks a limited subset of files, and it won’t repair 
anything within your Home folder. There is a slightly more convoluted way to 
fix permissions issues there.
Why might you want to do this, you ask? The most common scenario is that 
something’s gone wonky with files or folders in your Home folder; you try to 
save something to your Desktop, say, and your Mac tells you that you don’t have 
permission to do so.

Reset ‘Home Folder Permissions’ in Mountain Lion & Mavericks & Yosemite

You can reset your Home Folder Permissions from the Recovery HD using the Reset 
Password application.

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

2015-10-03 Thread Michael Hawkins
Thanks Ronni.

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> To answer your question, I’ll need to explain to you what “Repair 
> Permissions” using Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan repaired. I’ll 
> reply to the list in another email with a suitable subject heading.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2015, at 1:21 am, Michael Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, 
>> 
>> Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
>> this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
>> lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released 
>> every three weeks or so ?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
 One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
 either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
 version, or has become redundant. 
>>> 
>>> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
>>> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
> 
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Time machine HD

2015-10-03 Thread FW
Good morning all,

What is the reason for the time machine HD ikon on the screen not changing to 
the familiar green TM clock logo.
Instead it shows the original yellow colour of a HD. The HD is used only for 
the TM backups. On the Get Info
screen it shows the TM ikon. In the TM system preferences that HD is assigned 
to TM and TM turned on.
Previously, it always took some time after reconnecting the HD to the iMac. Now 
it won’t.

Any suggestions ?

Thanks
Walter

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