Re: A few problems after upgrade 10.8.5 to 10.10 Yosemite

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Matt,

I posted a reply to WAMUG this morning at 10:58AM with all the details.
Have you not received it on WAMUG Mailing List?
If not I’ll resend my email to the list.

Ronni

> On 30 Dec 2015, at 3:13 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, I managed to get iPhoto on a USB stick and installed it this 
> morning, it ran straight away and without any problems. So iPhoto on Yosemite 
> 10.10 is fine.
> 
> If you could let me know the best way and time to install the Yosemite 
> 10.10.5 combo update and how to migrate/import to Photos from iPhotos.
> 
> I believe you mentioned previously that I can still use iPhoto in Yosemite 
> and El Capitan and that you use both iPhoto and Photos?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Matt.
> 
>> On 22 Dec 2015, at 12:00 pm, Ronni Brown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok Matt,
>> 
>> I?ve sent you offlist a Link to download iPhoto.app v9.6.1 and instructions 
>> how to download it and install.
>> "Link & instructions how to download iPhoto.app from COPY.pdf"
>> A] First Step:
>> 
>> Delete (Move to Trash,but don?t empty) all versions of the iPhoto.app that 
>> is on your hard drive. 
>> 
>> Induce any alias files for them as well. 
>> 
>> Then:
>> 
>> B] Follow the steps in the instructions
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 9:19 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni, I tried the Update option and it came up with the message, "An 
>>> error occurred during purchase" and would not go any further. I tried it on 
>>> all the apps listed, so this option is not a viable one.
>>> 
>>> If you would so good as to upload the iPhoto 9.6.1 to your Dropbox or Copy 
>>> folder and let me know how to access it I would be more than grateful.
>>> 
>>> Would I then just need to delete the old application and put the new one in 
>>> place and open it?
>>> 
>>> Once again thanks very much.
>>> 
>>> Matt. 
>>> 
>>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 8:11 pm, Ronni Brown wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 Hi Matt,
 
 My comments in Situ
 
> On 20 Dec 2015, at 2:40 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, thanks for that. Quite a predicament.
> 
> Okay I had bought iPhoto and Aperture the old fashioned way and installed 
> them using DVD?s, so there was nothing to see in the Purchased tab in the 
> App Store relating to either of those apps.
 
 iPhoto from an Life DVD will only show up in Purchases, if you previously 
 updated to at least iPhoto 9.4.5. 
 That will have associated your Apple ID  with iPhoto at the AppStore and 
 add it to your Purchases history. 
 If you never updated to a newer version, that is only available from the 
 App Store, beyond iPhoto 9.4.3, you cannot reinstall iPhoto from the App 
 Store.
> 
> I had a hunt around on the web for ways of trying to find how to get 
> iPhoto 9.6.1 if you don?t have it in the Purchased tab.  Someone 
> suggested creating a new user account with full admin privileges, 
> restarting the mac, getting a new apple id in the new name, logging into 
> the App Store and then have a look.
> 
> I did this and in updates I have 6, including iPhoto 9.6.1 and Aperture 
> 3.6.  the others are Keynote, Numbers, Pages and iMovie, they all have 
> ?Update? next to them.
> 
> The million dollar question is as these say Update, not Install is it 
> just a question of clicking Update and letting it go ahead?
 
 You can try, it is worth a try - but I don?t ?think? this will work with 
 iPhoto 9.6.1. 
 I feel that when you click on Update (beside iPhoto) it will require you 
 to Sign-In with your Apple ID.
 If you type in your regular Apple ID you probably will receive a message 
 ?Unavailable? if you type in the New User Apple ID you might receive ?Not 
 To Be Found?.
 But give it a go and see what happens.
 
 A Finder copy of iPhoto.app v 9.6.1 will work. In other words if you have 
 the needed version (9.6.1) on another computer, or can obtain iPhoto.app 
 v9.6.1 copy - you can delete the old version and copy over the 9.6.1 
 version into Applications.
 I have a copy of iPhoto.app v9.6.1 file size is 1.7GB, so I?d need to 
 upload it to my Dropbox or Copy folder which will take all night to upload 
 before you could download it.
 
> Am correct in thinking that even though I have created another ?user" 
> that we will both be using the same apps, so it will update my existing 
> versions and as I have no intention of ever doing anything under the new 
> users name apart from these updates, it should have no bearing on the 
> existing apps?
 
 By default, all Applications are installed in /Applications. Those are 
 available to all users. 
 If you choose to install in your home Applications folder, they are only 
 available to that user.
> 

Re: A few problems after upgrade 10.8.5 to 10.10 Yosemite

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Matt,

Good to hear iPhoto 9.6.1 is sorted. And thanks for sending my Thumb Drive back 
I received it today.
I have put this subject back on to WAMUG & I'll reply to your post with further 
details  - installing the Yosemite 10.10.5 combo update and the transition to 
Photos - how to migrate/import to Photos from iPhoto.

As I mentioned in a previous reply you can still use iPhoto.app in Yosemite & 
El Capitan, I use iPhoto as well as Photos in El Capitan and did in Yosemite 
when Photos was released in the 10.10.3 update.
You can still use your original iPhoto library with iPhoto 9.6.1 and Aperture 
3.6 after you've migrated it to Photos.
Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open it in 
iPhoto or Aperture if you like.
NOTE:  Any changes you make in iPhoto or Aperture after you migrate to Photos, 
like image edits or album changes, will be visible only in iPhoto or Aperture.

Matt -As you realise, if you are unable to upgrade your Aperture v3.4.5 to 
Aperture v3.6 - Aperture will not work in Yosemite or El Capitan.

I also recommend repairing/rebuilding your iPhoto library with iPhoto before 
converting it to Photos.  
Launch iPhoto with the Command+Option keys held down and run the following 
options in the First Aid window:
 
1 - Option #1 - Repair Library Permissions
2 - Option #4 - Rebuild Library Database.
 
This will help facilitate a clean conversion of the iPhoto library to the new 
Photos library format.

When you are satisfied that Yosemite is working well, then install the 
osxupdcombo10.10.5.dmg.
I would suggest you first BACKUP - Time Machine and CCC Bootable backup (check 
bootable backup - check TM backup)
Then Install "osxupdate10.10.5" Combo
Just double click on the osxupdcombo10.10.5.dmg to open the disk image then 
follow the instructions.

After the combo update installation completes, check Software Update and 
install any updates shown.
==
The migration from iPhoto or Aperture to Photos actually happens automatically 
if you only have one library in your Pictures folder. 
One quick note: I’ve posted before to WAMUG warning people - Before you migrate 
all of your existing photos into Photos for OS X, make sure you have enough 
iCloud storage space if you want to take advantage of iCloud Photo Library, 
which syncs your images across all of your devices. With iCloud Photo Library 
turned on in the Photos app, all of your images will be uploaded to the cloud, 
which does eat up your iCloud storage space. 

You can use Photos without iCloud Photo Library -- just make sure you turn it 
off in the Preferences menu.

How to: Move your iPhoto or Aperture Library to Photos 

As you have previously been using iPhoto or Aperture on your Mac and iPhoto 
Library or Aperture Library is in the default location (User Home > Pictures 
folder) 

Step 1. When you first click on Photos app and the Welcome Screen appears, you 
should click on the Blue Box 'Get Started'. 

Step 2. If you were previously using iPhoto or Aperture; after clicking 'Get 
Started', it searches your system and detects your iPhoto and Aperture 
libraries.
Select which Library you want to use with Photos from the list
Which (unless you changed the name of your iPhoto Library) will be 'iPhoto 
Library' 

Step 3. Once you select the library, it presents the option to set up iCloud 
Photo Library, (Apple's iCloud-based photo and video syncing and storage 
service. This will allow you to sync all the Photos from your Mac and iOS 
device to each of your other devices, keeping your edits and albums in sync.)
At this stage, especially if you are not sure about putting ALL your pictures 
into iCloud Photo Library - I recommend you DON'T - (you can always set that up 
later under Photo's Preferences from the menu bar; it's optional and never 
required unless you want automatic, cloud-based syncing. 

Step 4. It then starts to Prepare your library to transition to Photos.
Your old photo libraries will stay on your Mac if you decide you want to use 
iPhoto or Aperture (because Aperture is more for Professional photographers & 
has more powerful editing tools and built-in support for external editors).
However, if you make any changes in those libraries, they will NOT 
automatically sync over to your new Photos Library. 

Most of the data from iPhoto and Aperture will transfer to the Photos app. 

Faces is still the same. Also, if you were using star ratings, flags and colour 
labels in iPhoto & Aperture, they are still around in Photos, but they are now 
Keywords and assigned to the photos. 

You'll notice your Events from your previous photo library is organised 
alongside Albums in the new Photos app preserving your organisation. 


A SAFE and HAPPY NEW YEAR to WAMUG Committee and all Members!

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 29 Dec 2015, at 9:02 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, I finally managed to get a copy of iPhoto 9.6.1 from my friend at 
> work last night and installed 

Re: A few problems after upgrade 10.8.5 to 10.10 Yosemite

[Matt Falvey]

Hi Ronni, I managed to get iPhoto on a USB stick and installed it this morning, 
it ran straight away and without any problems. So iPhoto on Yosemite 10.10 is 
fine.

If you could let me know the best way and time to install the Yosemite 10.10.5 
combo update and how to migrate/import to Photos from iPhotos.

I believe you mentioned previously that I can still use iPhoto in Yosemite and 
El Capitan and that you use both iPhoto and Photos?

Thanks.

Matt.

> On 22 Dec 2015, at 12:00 pm, Ronni Brown  > wrote:
> 
> Ok Matt,
> 
> I?ve sent you offlist a Link to download iPhoto.app v9.6.1 and instructions 
> how to download it and install.
> "Link & instructions how to download iPhoto.app from COPY.pdf"
> A] First Step:
> 
> Delete (Move to Trash,but don?t empty) all versions of the iPhoto.app that is 
> on your hard drive. 
> 
> Induce any alias files for them as well. 
> 
> Then:
> 
> B] Follow the steps in the instructions
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 9:19 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, I tried the Update option and it came up with the message, "An 
>> error occurred during purchase" and would not go any further. I tried it on 
>> all the apps listed, so this option is not a viable one.
>> 
>> If you would so good as to upload the iPhoto 9.6.1 to your Dropbox or Copy 
>> folder and let me know how to access it I would be more than grateful.
>> 
>> Would I then just need to delete the old application and put the new one in 
>> place and open it?
>> 
>> Once again thanks very much.
>> 
>> Matt. 
>> 
>> On 20 Dec 2015, at 8:11 pm, Ronni Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Matt,
>>> 
>>> My comments in Situ
>>> 
 On 20 Dec 2015, at 2:40 PM, Matt Falvey  wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni, thanks for that. Quite a predicament.
 
 Okay I had bought iPhoto and Aperture the old fashioned way and installed 
 them using DVD?s, so there was nothing to see in the Purchased tab in the 
 App Store relating to either of those apps.
>>> 
>>> iPhoto from an Life DVD will only show up in Purchases, if you previously 
>>> updated to at least iPhoto 9.4.5. 
>>> That will have associated your Apple ID  with iPhoto at the AppStore and 
>>> add it to your Purchases history. 
>>> If you never updated to a newer version, that is only available from the 
>>> App Store, beyond iPhoto 9.4.3, you cannot reinstall iPhoto from the App 
>>> Store.
 
 I had a hunt around on the web for ways of trying to find how to get 
 iPhoto 9.6.1 if you don?t have it in the Purchased tab.  Someone suggested 
 creating a new user account with full admin privileges, restarting the 
 mac, getting a new apple id in the new name, logging into the App Store 
 and then have a look.
 
 I did this and in updates I have 6, including iPhoto 9.6.1 and Aperture 
 3.6.  the others are Keynote, Numbers, Pages and iMovie, they all have 
 ?Update? next to them.
 
 The million dollar question is as these say Update, not Install is it just 
 a question of clicking Update and letting it go ahead?
>>> 
>>> You can try, it is worth a try - but I don?t ?think? this will work with 
>>> iPhoto 9.6.1. 
>>> I feel that when you click on Update (beside iPhoto) it will require you to 
>>> Sign-In with your Apple ID.
>>> If you type in your regular Apple ID you probably will receive a message 
>>> ?Unavailable? if you type in the New User Apple ID you might receive ?Not 
>>> To Be Found?.
>>> But give it a go and see what happens.
>>> 
>>> A Finder copy of iPhoto.app v 9.6.1 will work. In other words if you have 
>>> the needed version (9.6.1) on another computer, or can obtain iPhoto.app 
>>> v9.6.1 copy - you can delete the old version and copy over the 9.6.1 
>>> version into Applications.
>>> I have a copy of iPhoto.app v9.6.1 file size is 1.7GB, so I?d need to 
>>> upload it to my Dropbox or Copy folder which will take all night to upload 
>>> before you could download it.
>>> 
 Am correct in thinking that even though I have created another ?user" that 
 we will both be using the same apps, so it will update my existing 
 versions and as I have no intention of ever doing anything under the new 
 users name apart from these updates, it should have no bearing on the 
 existing apps?
>>> 
>>> By default, all Applications are installed in /Applications. Those are 
>>> available to all users. 
>>> If you choose to install in your home Applications folder, they are only 
>>> available to that user.
 
 I may if you give me the go ahead start with one of the apps I seldom use 
 like Numbers and see if it works on that first. I have left the iMac open 
 on the new users page, with the App Store page open in case I mess 
 anything up, until I hear from you.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Matt.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
> 
> From: Ronni Brown 
>