Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Susan Hastings]

Michael, seems like you have enough information now to go ahead. Have you given 
it a go?

> On 4 Jan 2016, at 4:45 AM, Michael Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Music, books, contact details .. Recordings 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 7:57 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> My question is  - back-up what exactly?  
>> 
>> The only thing I have on my iPhone is a small collection of reference photos 
>> which get copied ( that’s a verb I actually understand) to my MBP and 
>> deleted off the phone.  The rest is a series of partly finished crossword 
>> puzzles and a partly read novel.
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 00:14, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael, I also found another article which takes you through all of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://deciphertools.com/blog/2015_01_27_itunes_sync_vs_backup_ensure_data/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is a step by step guide similar to what Ronni would give you.
>>> 
>>> If neither of these threads make sense to you its possible to just do your 
>>> own Google search.
>>> 
>>> cheers, Susan.
>>> 
 On 3 Jan 2016, at 4:57 PM, Michael Hawkins 
  wrote:
 
 I'm a tad confused about the advantages and differences between backing up 
 my iPhone and syncing my iPhone. 
 
 I avoid technological clouds  of any description as much as I can, and so 
 I assume if I backup my iPhone I plug it in to my computer and save the 
 entire contents into iTunes. 
 
 I also assume that if I lose or destroy or break my iPhone somehow, I can 
 download to the replacement iPhone the content saved on my MacBook Pro, 
 including photos and videos.
 
 I think that if I sync my iPhone to my computer, all I do is transfer from 
 the computer to the iPhone photos that aren't on the iPhone and content in 
 iTunes from he computer to the iPhone that isn't in the IPhone, and 
 vice-versa.
 
 Syncing: What happens to music I've got on my computer, that I didn't buy 
 through iTunes? By law I'm allowed to copy a cd I have bought. Does it get 
 transferred to my iPhone when I sync the phone with he computer or, if 
 it's music get is not on the iPhone, does syncing mean that it gets 
 removed from the computer?
 
 And how do photos fare? I've got hundreds of photos on the computer they 
 aren't on the iPhone, and dozens on the iPhone that aren't in the 
 computer. If I sync my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that 
 photos get removed from my computer if they're not on the iPhone?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Michael
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Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Michael Hawkins]

To me to synchronise in ordinary English language means to match, but if the 
computer is the master and iPhone is the slave I'm reluctant to synchronise 
because this must mean that anything on the iPhone that is not on the computer 
will be deleted. Or is this another example of the a use by computer geeks of 
ordinary English language? Will items on the iPhone which are not on the 
computer b replicated on the computer as part of the synchronisation process?

Michael

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> On 4 Jan 2016, at 8:30 AM, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> A backup also looks after all your settings so you can reinstate a device 
> following a calamity. 
> 
> If you are comfortable not having this option, then don't worry about it. 
> 
  If I sync my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that photos get 
 removed from my computer if they're not on the iPhone?
> 
> No. The computer is the master, the iPhone the slave. 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 7:57 AM, Bill Parker  wrote:
>> 
>> My question is  - back-up what exactly?  
>> 
>> The only thing I have on my iPhone is a small collection of reference photos 
>> which get copied ( that’s a verb I actually understand) to my MBP and 
>> deleted off the phone.  The rest is a series of partly finished crossword 
>> puzzles and a partly read novel.
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 00:14, Susan Hastings  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael, I also found another article which takes you through all of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://deciphertools.com/blog/2015_01_27_itunes_sync_vs_backup_ensure_data/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is a step by step guide similar to what Ronni would give you.
>>> 
>>> If neither of these threads make sense to you its possible to just do your 
>>> own Google search.
>>> 
>>> cheers, Susan.
>>> 
 On 3 Jan 2016, at 4:57 PM, Michael Hawkins 
  wrote:
 
 I'm a tad confused about the advantages and differences between backing up 
 my iPhone and syncing my iPhone. 
 
 I avoid technological clouds  of any description as much as I can, and so 
 I assume if I backup my iPhone I plug it in to my computer and save the 
 entire contents into iTunes. 
 
 I also assume that if I lose or destroy or break my iPhone somehow, I can 
 download to the replacement iPhone the content saved on my MacBook Pro, 
 including photos and videos.
 
 I think that if I sync my iPhone to my computer, all I do is transfer from 
 the computer to the iPhone photos that aren't on the iPhone and content in 
 iTunes from he computer to the iPhone that isn't in the IPhone, and 
 vice-versa.
 
 Syncing: What happens to music I've got on my computer, that I didn't buy 
 through iTunes? By law I'm allowed to copy a cd I have bought. Does it get 
 transferred to my iPhone when I sync the phone with he computer or, if 
 it's music get is not on the iPhone, does syncing mean that it gets 
 removed from the computer?
 
 And how do photos fare? I've got hundreds of photos on the computer they 
 aren't on the iPhone, and dozens on the iPhone that aren't in the 
 computer. If I sync my iPhone  with the  computer  does it mean that 
 photos get removed from my computer if they're not on the iPhone?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Michael
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Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Susan Hastings]

Michael, I'm feeling a similar sense of frustration to Tim. We've told you that 
you have control of what happens. The articles tell you that you control what 
happens.

What more can we say. Or, are you waiting for Ronni? If so, why not get in 
touch with her directly. I'm sure her fees are reasonable.

Cheers, Susan

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On 4 Jan 2016, at 1:37 PM, Tim Law  wrote:

>> 
>>> Will items on the iPhone which are not on the computer b replicated on the 
>>> computer as part of the synchronisation process?
> 
> 
> Yes I guess they do. Apple are trying to be helpful to the users. It asks if 
> you want to match the apps you've downloaded on your phone. You choose yes or 
> no. 
> 
> It asks if you want to import photos. You choose if you do or not. 
> 
> If you feel you don't need to take advantage of these things, then don't do 
> it. 
> 
> Many people find they are quite happy with the outcome. I don't know why you 
> wouldn't just let the sync and backup options work as Apple has designed, and 
> no I don't want to know why if you choose not. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Tim's iPhone
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>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 8:25 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Will items on the iPhone which are not on the computer b replicated on the 
>> computer as part of the synchronisation process?
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Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Tim Law]

> 
>> Will items on the iPhone which are not on the computer b replicated on the 
>> computer as part of the synchronisation process?


Yes I guess they do. Apple are trying to be helpful to the users. It asks if 
you want to match the apps you've downloaded on your phone. You choose yes or 
no. 

It asks if you want to import photos. You choose if you do or not. 

If you feel you don't need to take advantage of these things, then don't do it. 

Many people find they are quite happy with the outcome. I don't know why you 
wouldn't just let the sync and backup options work as Apple has designed, and 
no I don't want to know why if you choose not. 






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> On 4 Jan 2016, at 8:25 PM, Michael Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Will items on the iPhone which are not on the computer b replicated on the 
> computer as part of the synchronisation process?
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Re: Backup or sync iPhone?

[Ronni Brown]

I was trying to stay ‘On Leave’ from WAMUG while taking a break from support 
work. But I also feel the frustration of  Tim & Susan. 
Michael you have been given more than enough valuable information from Susan & 
Tim to be able to understand the difference being Sync and Backup of your 
iPhone.

iOS: Difference between Sync and Backup?
 “what’s the difference between iOS backup and syncing?” 

So what is the difference between doing a backup and doing a sync with iTunes 
on your computer for your iPad, iPod  or iPhone?

Syncing process makes sure that your content (files and data) is the same on 
your iPhone iPad or iPod touch and computer. 
You can sync your iPhone or iPad with iTunes on your computer using USB or 
Wi-Fi.
You can sync apps, books, bookmarks, audio content etc

Basically sync may mean two things (a) it is the process of  making sure that 
two or more devices / systems (e.g. your iPhone, your computer, iCloud) contain 
the same up-to-date content  (b) it is the process of, two-way, transferring 
content. 

However, Backup refers to, one way, copying of most data from one location to 
another. 
You may use iCloud and iTunes and you can back up most data on your iPhone, 
iPad, or iPod touch.

Backing up your iOS device is a necessity, so that when things are lost, you 
can restore them with your backup.

About backups in iCloud and iTunes
You can copy and save the data on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch by backing 
up your device in iCloud or iTunes. If you replace your device, you can use its 
backup to transfer your information to a new device.
>

iTunes Syncing & Transferring Content
>

Cheers,

Ronni who is ‘On Leave'


> On 4 Jan 2016, at 9:05 PM, Susan Hastings  wrote:
> 
> Michael, I'm feeling a similar sense of frustration to Tim. We've told you 
> that you have control of what happens. The articles tell you that you control 
> what happens.
> 
> What more can we say. Or, are you waiting for Ronni? If so, why not get in 
> touch with her directly. I'm sure her fees are reasonable.
> 
> Cheers, Susan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 4 Jan 2016, at 1:37 PM, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
>>> 
 Will items on the iPhone which are not on the computer b replicated on the 
 computer as part of the synchronisation process?
>> 
>> 
>> Yes I guess they do. Apple are trying to be helpful to the users. It asks if 
>> you want to match the apps you've downloaded on your phone. You choose yes 
>> or no. 
>> 
>> It asks if you want to import photos. You choose if you do or not. 
>> 
>> If you feel you don't need to take advantage of these things, then don't do 
>> it. 
>> 
>> Many people find they are quite happy with the outcome. I don't know why you 
>> wouldn't just let the sync and backup options work as Apple has designed, 
>> and no I don't want to know why if you choose not. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's iPhone
>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 8:25 PM, Michael Hawkins 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will items on the iPhone which are not on the computer b replicated on the 
>>> computer as part of the synchronisation process?

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