The Australian

2016-04-20 Thread Severin Crisp
Earlier today I noted problems with The Australian.  I now believe that the 
problem arises when the paper is opened by clicking in the daily email 
notification and it uses Safari.  How do I force it to use The Australian app?  
 I see one way is to bypass the mail notification and just open the app which 
will go to the latest edition.
Severin Crisp


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Re: Dictation not showing command list

2016-04-20 Thread Bill Parker
Neither.  But I would use Nuance in preference, Dictation is too slow and I can 
type more accurately
B
> On 20 Apr 2016, at 17:07, Michael Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Did you use Mac Dictation or Nuance for your email?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20 Apr 2016, at 4:23 PM, Bill Parker  > wrote:
> 
>> I use Nuance Dragon.  If I needed “enjo” I would not say en yo.rather en jo 
>> and correct the result.  However if I wanted to write a chemical word I 
>> would split it up.  However, Mac Diustation is so slow and makes so many 
>> mistakes I cannot use it.
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Apr 2016, at 18:48, gdorn@me > 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can dictation  "learn" words
>>> 
>>> in appleworks, I use to be able to add words to dictionary  - ie English 
>>> spelling
>>> 
>>> Does dictation have a similar capability.
>>> 
>>> Eg.  try saying  " Enjo" and see what you get  ( we usually get " you know"
>>> 
>>> chow
>>> 
>>> gdorn
>>> gd...@mac.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14/04/2016, at 10:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Kaye,
 
 Is she trying to access the “show Commands” this way?
 To see a list of all the commands you can access, activate Dictation 
 (press fn fn), wait for the beep, and then say “Show commands”
 
 When you're dictating, pause before saying a command. Otherwise, OS X may 
 interpret it as dictation.
 
 Check in System Preferences > Accessibility and choose Dictation in the 
 list to the left. 
 Click 'Dictation Commands' and then select the 'Enable Advanced Commands' 
 option. 
 Click done in the preference pane to activate advanced commands.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 14 Apr 2016, at 8:29 AM, kaye and geoff > wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a friend with failing eyesight who is using Enhanced Dictation 
> under El Capitan. Until recently everything worked well, but now the 
> spoken request "Show Commands" returns a formatted screen with no 
> commands listed. She normally dictates in French, but we switched to 
> English (and to Spanish) and tried them with the same result. Dictation 
> continues to work - it responds to the spoken commands and produces 
> documents from spoken dictation in all three languages - but she can no 
> longer get a list of the commands available to be recognised.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this behaviour or have any idea of where we start 
> looking to get her commands displayed. She is unaware of doing anything 
> that may have caused the problem, and I can't find anything in her 
> settings that could turn off displaying the commands.
> 
> Cheers, Kaye
> 
> Kaye and Geoff
> k...@kgweb.org.au 
> 
 
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Re: Dictation not showing command list

2016-04-20 Thread Michael Hawkins
Bill,

Did you use Mac Dictation or Nuance for your email?

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 20 Apr 2016, at 4:23 PM, Bill Parker  wrote:
> 
> I use Nuance Dragon.  If I needed “enjo” I would not say en yo.rather en jo 
> and correct the result.  However if I wanted to write a chemical word I would 
> split it up.  However, Mac Diustation is so slow and makes so many mistakes I 
> cannot use it.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
>> On 14 Apr 2016, at 18:48, gdorn@me  wrote:
>> 
>> Can dictation  "learn" words
>> 
>> in appleworks, I use to be able to add words to dictionary  - ie English 
>> spelling
>> 
>> Does dictation have a similar capability.
>> 
>> Eg.  try saying  " Enjo" and see what you get  ( we usually get " you know"
>> 
>> chow
>> 
>> gdorn
>> gd...@mac.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14/04/2016, at 10:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kaye,
>>> 
>>> Is she trying to access the “show Commands” this way?
>>> To see a list of all the commands you can access, activate Dictation (press 
>>> fn fn), wait for the beep, and then say “Show commands”
>>> 
>>> When you're dictating, pause before saying a command. Otherwise, OS X may 
>>> interpret it as dictation.
>>> 
>>> Check in System Preferences > Accessibility and choose Dictation in the 
>>> list to the left. 
>>> Click 'Dictation Commands' and then select the 'Enable Advanced Commands' 
>>> option. 
>>> Click done in the preference pane to activate advanced commands.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
>>> 
 On 14 Apr 2016, at 8:29 AM, kaye and geoff  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a friend with failing eyesight who is using Enhanced Dictation 
 under El Capitan. Until recently everything worked well, but now the 
 spoken request "Show Commands" returns a formatted screen with no commands 
 listed. She normally dictates in French, but we switched to English (and 
 to Spanish) and tried them with the same result. Dictation continues to 
 work - it responds to the spoken commands and produces documents from 
 spoken dictation in all three languages - but she can no longer get a list 
 of the commands available to be recognised.
 
 Has anyone else seen this behaviour or have any idea of where we start 
 looking to get her commands displayed. She is unaware of doing anything 
 that may have caused the problem, and I can't find anything in her 
 settings that could turn off displaying the commands.
 
 Cheers, Kaye
 
 Kaye and Geoff
 k...@kgweb.org.au
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Re: Dictation not showing command list

2016-04-20 Thread Bill Parker
I use Nuance Dragon.  If I needed “enjo” I would not say en yo.rather en jo and 
correct the result.  However if I wanted to write a chemical word I would split 
it up.  However, Mac Diustation is so slow and makes so many mistakes I cannot 
use it.

Bill


> On 14 Apr 2016, at 18:48, gdorn@me  wrote:
> 
> Can dictation  "learn" words
> 
> in appleworks, I use to be able to add words to dictionary  - ie English 
> spelling
> 
> Does dictation have a similar capability.
> 
> Eg.  try saying  " Enjo" and see what you get  ( we usually get " you know"
> 
> chow
> 
> gdorn
> gd...@mac.com 
> 
> 
> 
> On 14/04/2016, at 10:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kaye,
>> 
>> Is she trying to access the “show Commands” this way?
>> To see a list of all the commands you can access, activate Dictation (press 
>> fn fn), wait for the beep, and then say “Show commands”
>> 
>> When you're dictating, pause before saying a command. Otherwise, OS X may 
>> interpret it as dictation.
>> 
>> Check in System Preferences > Accessibility and choose Dictation in the list 
>> to the left. 
>> Click 'Dictation Commands' and then select the 'Enable Advanced Commands' 
>> option. 
>> Click done in the preference pane to activate advanced commands.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 Apr 2016, at 8:29 AM, kaye and geoff > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have a friend with failing eyesight who is using Enhanced Dictation under 
>>> El Capitan. Until recently everything worked well, but now the spoken 
>>> request "Show Commands" returns a formatted screen with no commands listed. 
>>> She normally dictates in French, but we switched to English (and to 
>>> Spanish) and tried them with the same result. Dictation continues to work - 
>>> it responds to the spoken commands and produces documents from spoken 
>>> dictation in all three languages - but she can no longer get a list of the 
>>> commands available to be recognised.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else seen this behaviour or have any idea of where we start 
>>> looking to get her commands displayed. She is unaware of doing anything 
>>> that may have caused the problem, and I can't find anything in her settings 
>>> that could turn off displaying the commands.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Kaye
>>> 
>>> Kaye and Geoff
>>> k...@kgweb.org.au 
>>> 
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Re: Dictation not showing command list

2016-04-20 Thread gdorn@me
Can dictation  "learn" words

in appleworks, I use to be able to add words to dictionary  - ie English 
spelling

Does dictation have a similar capability.

Eg.  try saying  " Enjo" and see what you get  ( we usually get " you know"

chow

gdorn
gd...@mac.com



On 14/04/2016, at 10:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Kaye,
> 
> Is she trying to access the “show Commands” this way?
> To see a list of all the commands you can access, activate Dictation (press 
> fn fn), wait for the beep, and then say “Show commands”
> 
> When you're dictating, pause before saying a command. Otherwise, OS X may 
> interpret it as dictation.
> 
> Check in System Preferences > Accessibility and choose Dictation in the list 
> to the left. 
> Click 'Dictation Commands' and then select the 'Enable Advanced Commands' 
> option. 
> Click done in the preference pane to activate advanced commands.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 14 Apr 2016, at 8:29 AM, kaye and geoff  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a friend with failing eyesight who is using Enhanced Dictation under 
>> El Capitan. Until recently everything worked well, but now the spoken 
>> request "Show Commands" returns a formatted screen with no commands listed. 
>> She normally dictates in French, but we switched to English (and to Spanish) 
>> and tried them with the same result. Dictation continues to work - it 
>> responds to the spoken commands and produces documents from spoken dictation 
>> in all three languages - but she can no longer get a list of the commands 
>> available to be recognised.
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this behaviour or have any idea of where we start 
>> looking to get her commands displayed. She is unaware of doing anything that 
>> may have caused the problem, and I can't find anything in her settings that 
>> could turn off displaying the commands.
>> 
>> Cheers, Kaye
>> 
>> Kaye and Geoff
>> k...@kgweb.org.au
>> 
> 
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