Re: Cheap Dual Head Options?

2005-03-18 Thread Mark Secker
I haven't bothered keeping up with their new product much since going 
to laptops (for obvious reasons) but the most of the late 90's early 
00's Matrox Millenium and Mystiques were sold as either win  and mac 
but you could flash them either way (the Mystiques been to the dark 
side and back several times)
you may have to google pretty hard to find the bios flash or lurk in 
some vintage mac forums - unfortunately the mac that I had that app 
on has been dead a fair few years now.


they seem to work fine under OSX on a standard install and nothing 
looks different with 10.2 but they are not 3D cards so they don't 
support Quartz  so no drop shadows, transparencies etc that you get 
on the OSX 10.3 interface - so it looks like running OSX on a g3 
powerbook



rather than buying a dual head monitor card if he has a free PCI 
slot then find an old  Matrox Millenium or Mystique card which were 
a dime a dozen a few years back


What's the story with OS X drivers for these cards?

There's no obvious mention on the Matrox site - will most Millennium 
/ Mystique cards work out of the box or is there some evil beta 
driver required?


Cheers, Anton.

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Re: Cheap Dual Head Options?

2005-03-17 Thread Tobes


From the Other World Computing website (Prices are US, expect to add 
$30 US to delivery to Australia via Fedex):


PCI cards:

ATI Technologies RADEON 9200 128MB MacEdition PCI Graphics Card with 
VGA, DVI, S-Video. New, 3yr ATI Warranty. This PCI Video Card is 
SCREAMING Fast! (ATI100436011)

$124.99


AGP Cards:

ATI Technologies RADEON 9800 PRO MAC EDITION 4x/2x AGP Ultra High 
Performance Dual Head Video Card W/ DVI, VGA and S-Video Ports, 128MB. 
New, for PowerMac G4s, with 3yr ATI Warranty. (ATI100435050)

$229.95

ATI Technologies RADEON 9000 PRO MAC EDITION 128MB 2x/4x AGP High 
Performance Dual Head Video Card W/ ADC  DVI Ports. New, for PowerMac 
G4s, with 3yr ATI Warranty. (ATI100433022)

$127.99

Apple OEM / ATI Technologies RADEON 9600 PRO 4X AGP 64MB Video Card for 
the Power Macintosh G4s* - ADC(unpowered) and DVI Outputs W/ 1yr 
Warranty *For PowerMac G4 Digital Audio/Quicksilver/Mirrored Drive Door 
Only! - Modified! (APL630ATI96G4)

$119.00


Apple OEM / ATI Technologies RADEON 9600 PRO 4X AGP 64MB Video Card for 
the Power Macintosh G4s MDD* - ADC(unpowered) and DVI Outputs. New with 
1 year OWC Warranty. *For PowerMac G4 Mirrored Drive Door Models Only - 
Modified!* (APL630ATI96MDD)

$101.00

T.


On 16/03/2005, at 10:16 PM, Antony N. Lord wrote:

A mate of mine is trying to run a home recording studio on a single 
15 monitor (1GHz G4). No surprises it doesn't all fit on screen :)


He's got a second monitor (both are analogue XVGA HD15 types).

What are the options for a cheap dual head?

All comments welcomed.

Cheers, Antony.

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Re: Cheap Dual Head Options?

2005-03-17 Thread Antony N. Lord

At 6:55 AM +0800 17/3/05, Tobes wrote:
From the Other World Computing website (Prices are US, expect to add 
$30 US to delivery to Australia via Fedex):


I've had real problems with OWC in the past.

Great pricing, pathetic after sales service.

Not to mention they use FedEx (fairly dear for a single card) which 
always gets slugged GST and customs handling...


Cheers, Antony.

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Re: Cheap Dual Head Options?

2005-03-17 Thread Toby Oldham


Our experiences differ then. :)

I've had no problems with OWC, and I find Fedex great for tracking 
packages. I don't mind the cost so much as I've heard horror stories 
about other companies delivering gear purchased O/S in crunchy pieces. 
I also generally find that even after GST the final cost is less.


That said, I've only made O/S purchases on graphics cards and CPU 
upgrades - local pricing seems to be more than competitive on most 
other products (in my experience).


T.

On 17/03/2005, at 11:18 AM, Antony N. Lord wrote:


At 6:55 AM +0800 17/3/05, Tobes wrote:
From the Other World Computing website (Prices are US, expect to add 
$30 US to delivery to Australia via Fedex):


I've had real problems with OWC in the past.

Great pricing, pathetic after sales service.

Not to mention they use FedEx (fairly dear for a single card) which 
always gets slugged GST and customs handling...


Cheers, Antony.

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Cheap Dual Head Options?

2005-03-16 Thread Antony N. Lord
A mate of mine is trying to run a home recording studio on a single 
15 monitor (1GHz G4). No surprises it doesn't all fit on screen :)


He's got a second monitor (both are analogue XVGA HD15 types).

What are the options for a cheap dual head?

All comments welcomed.

Cheers, Antony.

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Re: Cheap Dual Head Options?

2005-03-16 Thread Mark Secker
rather than buying a dual head monitor card if he has a free PCI slot 
then find an old  Matrox Millenium or Mystique card which were a dime 
a dozen a few years back  - I have 2 (well one of each) in my old 
Frankenmac G4  so can (and did) run 3 monitors - I could part with 
them... but don't want to :)  - they don't run OX 10.3 to pretty at 
all (no O-GL Quartz support) but for a while I had it set up for the 
much same purpose as your friend - to run old OS 9 legacy studio 
software (Quebase) and now gathering dust after I sold off my audio 
to FireWire  DAC.



Try the Quokka, e-Bay or Recycle -IT in Osbourne Park - that's were I 
got these cards from. From memory they were about $30 or $40 though I 
got them for free for finding them installer floppys and salvaged 
some external floppy drives for some of their stock.


Matrox did make a dual head PCI  Millenium but they were as rare as hens teeth.


A mate of mine is trying to run a home recording studio on a single 
15 monitor (1GHz G4). No surprises it doesn't all fit on screen :)


He's got a second monitor (both are analogue XVGA HD15 types).

What are the options for a cheap dual head?

All comments welcomed.

Cheers, Antony.

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