Re: DROBO - Storage Robot
IMHO: While the Drobo is probably the only example of how to do RAID for SOHO users right I , personally, would not consider it or any other RAID solution, to be in any way shape or form a true back up device. (I note that DROBO seem to go out of their way to avoid using the word RAID probably for marketing reasons due to RAIDS not always undeserved reputation of being ... difficult? but software or hardware implemented it perambulates and enunciates in the manner of an anatidae) Relying on recoverability via multiple redundancy of may be great for keeping workflow on schedule or close to schedule if hardware (disk) failure occurs but offers little in the way of protection from loss due to thing such as malicious damage, theft, fire, electrical spike/surges or just plain old dumb bad luck. And, unfortunately, my experience with RAID systems is that even experienced IT professionals will often ignore that first disk failure waring (and even the second disk failure waring in RAID 6's) and keep working with the RAID in a degraded state... causing total data loss in the event of any further disk failures. and if you think you can't possibly lose multiple disks in quick succession I can tell you it happens often enough to be a real risk. this year I had 3 drives (1 live and 2 backup disks) all fail with in 3 days of each other. the year before I had 2 drive fail (live and back up) the same day. In both cases causing significant though not financially damaging data loss. And that's just my personal experience and not even counting the multitude of server and user hard disks I've had to preform the last rights on as part of my 9-5 job. Also though most data losses that I've seen have been from simple disk failures the next most common cause, after user error (ie delete/format of data/drive), has been willful/malicious deletion of data or damaging of drives by another party. another of my main objections to the idea of a DROBO or other online RAID units being considered true backups is that by its nature data is spread across multiple disks making even off line disks removed from the DROBO (or RAID) and stored for backups unreadable as single drive in the event of the failure or theft of the DROBO (or RAID controller) unit. and that by their nature as the computer access these disks via also a non direct path through the DROBO/RAID 's proprietary controller rather than through an industry standard controller (such as the disks built in ATA, SATA, etc) data forensic and data recovery software when dealing with individual DROBO/RAID drives will have, at best, a difficult time recovering any usable data and most likely with SOHO grade Data recovery programs will not be able to recover any data at all. I would still suggest that DROBO or no DROBO that as a minimum you should possess at least 2 media units each of sufficient size for backing up user data and that these are used to create a rolling schedule of at least one weekly (for SOHO) or at least one every 2 months (for purely personal systems) back up be made to a single unit media (disk) and that unit stored off line and away from the computer (different room, or even better, different building) , the next scheduled backup goes on to the next media unit. (and never use these units for storing anything other than backups) -- Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph# 61-8-6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:m...@biz.uwa.edu.au University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ http://www.pbase.com/marxz It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) Ubi fumus, ibi fumus -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: DROBO - Storage Robot
Hello Mark, Drobo does NOT use RAID. The Patent-Pending technology within Drobo is not RAID and was developed specifically to perform data management and configuration tasks automatically so that you don't have to. Drobo does utilise advanced storage concepts such as virtualization, but it is not a derivative of RAID. Cheers, Ronni On 21/12/2008, at 8:20 PM, Mark Secker wrote: IMHO: While the Drobo is probably the only example of how to do RAID for SOHO users right I , personally, would not consider it or any other RAID solution, to be in any way shape or form a true back up device. (I note that DROBO seem to go out of their way to avoid using the word RAID probably for marketing reasons due to RAIDS not always undeserved reputation of being ... difficult? but software or hardware implemented it perambulates and enunciates in the manner of an anatidae) Relying on recoverability via multiple redundancy of may be great for keeping workflow on schedule or close to schedule if hardware (disk) failure occurs but offers little in the way of protection from loss due to thing such as malicious damage, theft, fire, electrical spike/surges or just plain old dumb bad luck. And, unfortunately, my experience with RAID systems is that even experienced IT professionals will often ignore that first disk failure waring (and even the second disk failure waring in RAID 6's) and keep working with the RAID in a degraded state... causing total data loss in the event of any further disk failures. and if you think you can't possibly lose multiple disks in quick succession I can tell you it happens often enough to be a real risk. this year I had 3 drives (1 live and 2 backup disks) all fail with in 3 days of each other. the year before I had 2 drive fail (live and back up) the same day. In both cases causing significant though not financially damaging data loss. And that's just my personal experience and not even counting the multitude of server and user hard disks I've had to preform the last rights on as part of my 9-5 job. Also though most data losses that I've seen have been from simple disk failures the next most common cause, after user error (ie delete/format of data/drive), has been willful/malicious deletion of data or damaging of drives by another party. another of my main objections to the idea of a DROBO or other online RAID units being considered true backups is that by its nature data is spread across multiple disks making even off line disks removed from the DROBO (or RAID) and stored for backups unreadable as single drive in the event of the failure or theft of the DROBO (or RAID controller) unit. and that by their nature as the computer access these disks via also a non direct path through the DROBO/RAID 's proprietary controller rather than through an industry standard controller (such as the disks built in ATA, SATA, etc) data forensic and data recovery software when dealing with individual DROBO/RAID drives will have, at best, a difficult time recovering any usable data and most likely with SOHO grade Data recovery programs will not be able to recover any data at all. I would still suggest that DROBO or no DROBO that as a minimum you should possess at least 2 media units each of sufficient size for backing up user data and that these are used to create a rolling schedule of at least one weekly (for SOHO) or at least one every 2 months (for purely personal systems) back up be made to a single unit media (disk) and that unit stored off line and away from the computer (different room, or even better, different building) , the next scheduled backup goes on to the next media unit. (and never use these units for storing anything other than backups) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
DROBO - Storage Robot
Hello People, When Peta asked for advice about Backup Drives, it prompted me to send some information on my new Backup Storage setup. I purchased (through Daniel of MacWizardry), and have been using the 2nd Generation DROBO-Storage Robot for over a month now and I'm thoroughly impressed, he is brilliant! He is also FUN! He has lots of lights and looks very cool sitting on my desk. DROBO Dashboard is one neat application. Drobo is designed to actively monitor and protect your data at all times. It is also programmed to optimise data storage so you don't have to. Drobo acts as a large, single pool of storage that is always available and it's also inherently backed-up on the Drobo and protected against drive failure or disk corruption. He is One Big Pool of Protected Storage. Drobo has Four (4) Data Bays. He will only take 3.5 SATA1 SATA11 Drives NOT IDE drives. You must have at least two drives in Drobo. I now have in DROBO three drives. 1TB SATA + 1TB SATA + 250GB SATA Drives, giving me 2.25TB (2.04TB Actual). 934.96GB is being used for Protection. When I only had 1TB + 250GB, DROBO gave me the RED ALERT that I must insert a new drive into the empty Data Bay indicated by the red light. Drobo needed extra space for protection of my data. You can use Drobolator Capacity Calculator to help you select the number and size of drives to fit your needs http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobolator.html You can just add new disks when you need more capacity, or replace a smaller drive with a larger one, no data migration or reconfiguration is required. Your data has multiple layers of automatic protection. Drobo works with Time Machine, SuperDuper, and other backup software and utilities. It works perfectly with Déjà Vu (the backup I use). You can Network Drobo. This explains Networking Drobo: http://www.thedigitalstory.com/blog/2008/04/drobo_hard_drive_bac.html Drobo utilises a revolutionary storage technology that makes it simple for anyone to use, yet is powerful enough for business. Once you experience the power of Drobo, the idea of keeping multiple external drives or a RAID 5 array will seem as antiquated as that 28.8Kbps modem in the back of your closet. This latest release Second Generation has 2 Firewire 800 ports 1 USB 2.0 port. The First generation was only USB 2.0. Now, it's also fast. Drobo is available with FireWire 800 and enhanced USB 2.0 performance giving you the data protection and ease you need, with the speed and interface you want. http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobodemo.html?ID=Macworld1 http://www.drobo.com/Products/FAQs.html Mini-Review from Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/08/drobo-second-gen-mini-review/ In-Depth Review from Automated Home (even though it's mainly showing Windows side, it's quite informative): http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Reviews/Drobo-DroboShare-In-Depth-Review.html The retail on them is now $1029.95 for the Drobo Storage Robot unit. Then you use your SATA Drives or purchase more or larger drives when you need them. http://www.conexus.com.au/detail.php?item=DDH001 Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: DROBO - Storage Robot
I agree this is a great product BUT make sure you update the firmware before you format the drives as we had a few minor issues. Cheers Duncan Sent from my iPhone On 21/12/2008, at 11:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au wrote: Hello People, When Peta asked for advice about Backup Drives, it prompted me to send some information on my new Backup Storage setup. I purchased (through Daniel of MacWizardry), and have been using the 2nd Generation DROBO-Storage Robot for over a month now and I'm thoroughly impressed, he is brilliant! He is also FUN! He has lots of lights and looks very cool sitting on my desk. DROBO Dashboard is one neat application. Drobo is designed to actively monitor and protect your data at all times. It is also programmed to optimise data storage so you don't have to. Drobo acts as a large, single pool of storage that is always available and it's also inherently backed-up on the Drobo and protected against drive failure or disk corruption. He is One Big Pool of Protected Storage. Drobo has Four (4) Data Bays. He will only take 3.5 SATA1 SATA11 Drives NOT IDE drives. You must have at least two drives in Drobo. I now have in DROBO three drives. 1TB SATA + 1TB SATA + 250GB SATA Drives, giving me 2.25TB (2.04TB Actual). 934.96GB is being used for Protection. When I only had 1TB + 250GB, DROBO gave me the RED ALERT that I must insert a new drive into the empty Data Bay indicated by the red light. Drobo needed extra space for protection of my data. You can use Drobolator Capacity Calculator to help you select the number and size of drives to fit your needs http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobolator.html You can just add new disks when you need more capacity, or replace a smaller drive with a larger one, no data migration or reconfiguration is required. Your data has multiple layers of automatic protection. Drobo works with Time Machine, SuperDuper, and other backup software and utilities. It works perfectly with Déjà Vu (the backup I use). You can Network Drobo. This explains Networking Drobo: http://www.thedigitalstory.com/blog/2008/04/ drobo_hard_drive_bac.html Drobo utilises a revolutionary storage technology that makes it simple for anyone to use, yet is powerful enough for business. Once you experience the power of Drobo, the idea of keeping multiple external drives or a RAID 5 array will seem as antiquated as that 28.8Kbps modem in the back of your closet. This latest release Second Generation has 2 Firewire 800 ports 1 USB 2.0 port. The First generation was only USB 2.0. Now, it's also fast. Drobo is available with FireWire 800 and enhanced USB 2.0 performance giving you the data protection and ease you need, with the speed and interface you want. http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobodemo.html?ID=Macworld1 http://www.drobo.com/Products/FAQs.html Mini-Review from Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/08/drobo-second-gen-mini-review/ In-Depth Review from Automated Home (even though it's mainly showing Windows side, it's quite informative): http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Reviews/Drobo-DroboShare-In-Depth-Review.html The retail on them is now $1029.95 for the Drobo Storage Robot unit. Then you use your SATA Drives or purchase more or larger drives when you need them. http://www.conexus.com.au/detail.php?item=DDH001 Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: DROBO - Storage Robot
That's interesting Duncan. I know I updated the Firmware without any problems at all. I think if I remember Drobo Dashboard asked me to, not sure though? What issues did you experience? Was it to do with your Firewall blocking the web-based firmware update? Or did it fail to install? Cheers, Ronni On 21/12/2008, at 11:50 AM, Duncan Hardman Lists wrote: I agree this is a great product BUT make sure you update the firmware before you format the drives as we had a few minor issues. Cheers Duncan Sent from my iPhone On 21/12/2008, at 11:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au wrote: Hello People, When Peta asked for advice about Backup Drives, it prompted me to send some information on my new Backup Storage setup. I purchased (through Daniel of MacWizardry), and have been using the 2nd Generation DROBO-Storage Robot for over a month now and I'm thoroughly impressed, he is brilliant! He is also FUN! He has lots of lights and looks very cool sitting on my desk. DROBO Dashboard is one neat application. Drobo is designed to actively monitor and protect your data at all times. It is also programmed to optimise data storage so you don't have to. Drobo acts as a large, single pool of storage that is always available and it's also inherently backed-up on the Drobo and protected against drive failure or disk corruption. He is One Big Pool of Protected Storage. Drobo has Four (4) Data Bays. He will only take 3.5 SATA1 SATA11 Drives NOT IDE drives. You must have at least two drives in Drobo. I now have in DROBO three drives. 1TB SATA + 1TB SATA + 250GB SATA Drives, giving me 2.25TB (2.04TB Actual). 934.96GB is being used for Protection. When I only had 1TB + 250GB, DROBO gave me the RED ALERT that I must insert a new drive into the empty Data Bay indicated by the red light. Drobo needed extra space for protection of my data. You can use Drobolator Capacity Calculator to help you select the number and size of drives to fit your needs http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobolator.html You can just add new disks when you need more capacity, or replace a smaller drive with a larger one, no data migration or reconfiguration is required. Your data has multiple layers of automatic protection. Drobo works with Time Machine, SuperDuper, and other backup software and utilities. It works perfectly with Déjà Vu (the backup I use). You can Network Drobo. This explains Networking Drobo: http://www.thedigitalstory.com/blog/2008/04/drobo_hard_drive_bac.html Drobo utilises a revolutionary storage technology that makes it simple for anyone to use, yet is powerful enough for business. Once you experience the power of Drobo, the idea of keeping multiple external drives or a RAID 5 array will seem as antiquated as that 28.8Kbps modem in the back of your closet. This latest release Second Generation has 2 Firewire 800 ports 1 USB 2.0 port. The First generation was only USB 2.0. Now, it's also fast. Drobo is available with FireWire 800 and enhanced USB 2.0 performance giving you the data protection and ease you need, with the speed and interface you want. http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobodemo.html?ID=Macworld1 http://www.drobo.com/Products/FAQs.html Mini-Review from Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/08/drobo-second-gen-mini-review/ In-Depth Review from Automated Home (even though it's mainly showing Windows side, it's quite informative): http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Reviews/Drobo-DroboShare-In-Depth-Review.html The retail on them is now $1029.95 for the Drobo Storage Robot unit. Then you use your SATA Drives or purchase more or larger drives when you need them. http://www.conexus.com.au/detail.php?item=DDH001 Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
backup - possibly DROBO Storage Robot
Thanks everyone for suggestions. I will contact Daniel. Peta -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: DROBO - Storage Robot
No problem with updating the firmware but the firmware out of the box gave us issues with all red warning lights coming on all the drives and therefore no data or protection. Once we had updated the firmware for both the drobo and the drobo share we have had no problems at all and love it too :) Hope this clears it up Cheers Duncan On 21/12/2008, at 12:43 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: That's interesting Duncan. I know I updated the Firmware without any problems at all. I think if I remember Drobo Dashboard asked me to, not sure though? What issues did you experience? Was it to do with your Firewall blocking the web-based firmware update? Or did it fail to install? Cheers, Ronni On 21/12/2008, at 11:50 AM, Duncan Hardman Lists wrote: I agree this is a great product BUT make sure you update the firmware before you format the drives as we had a few minor issues. Cheers Duncan Sent from my iPhone On 21/12/2008, at 11:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au wrote: Hello People, When Peta asked for advice about Backup Drives, it prompted me to send some information on my new Backup Storage setup. I purchased (through Daniel of MacWizardry), and have been using the 2nd Generation DROBO-Storage Robot for over a month now and I'm thoroughly impressed, he is brilliant! He is also FUN! He has lots of lights and looks very cool sitting on my desk. DROBO Dashboard is one neat application. Drobo is designed to actively monitor and protect your data at all times. It is also programmed to optimise data storage so you don't have to. Drobo acts as a large, single pool of storage that is always available and it's also inherently backed-up on the Drobo and protected against drive failure or disk corruption. He is One Big Pool of Protected Storage. Drobo has Four (4) Data Bays. He will only take 3.5 SATA1 SATA11 Drives NOT IDE drives. You must have at least two drives in Drobo. I now have in DROBO three drives. 1TB SATA + 1TB SATA + 250GB SATA Drives, giving me 2.25TB (2.04TB Actual). 934.96GB is being used for Protection. When I only had 1TB + 250GB, DROBO gave me the RED ALERT that I must insert a new drive into the empty Data Bay indicated by the red light. Drobo needed extra space for protection of my data. You can use Drobolator Capacity Calculator to help you select the number and size of drives to fit your needs http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobolator.html You can just add new disks when you need more capacity, or replace a smaller drive with a larger one, no data migration or reconfiguration is required. Your data has multiple layers of automatic protection. Drobo works with Time Machine, SuperDuper, and other backup software and utilities. It works perfectly with Déjà Vu (the backup I use). You can Network Drobo. This explains Networking Drobo: http://www.thedigitalstory.com/blog/2008/04/drobo_hard_drive_bac.html Drobo utilises a revolutionary storage technology that makes it simple for anyone to use, yet is powerful enough for business. Once you experience the power of Drobo, the idea of keeping multiple external drives or a RAID 5 array will seem as antiquated as that 28.8Kbps modem in the back of your closet. This latest release Second Generation has 2 Firewire 800 ports 1 USB 2.0 port. The First generation was only USB 2.0. Now, it's also fast. Drobo is available with FireWire 800 and enhanced USB 2.0 performance giving you the data protection and ease you need, with the speed and interface you want. http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobodemo.html?ID=Macworld1 http://www.drobo.com/Products/FAQs.html Mini-Review from Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/08/drobo-second-gen-mini-review/ In-Depth Review from Automated Home (even though it's mainly showing Windows side, it's quite informative): http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Reviews/Drobo-DroboShare-In-Depth-Review.html The retail on them is now $1029.95 for the Drobo Storage Robot unit. Then you use your SATA Drives or purchase more or larger drives when you need them. http://www.conexus.com.au/detail.php?item=DDH001 Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: DROBO - Storage Robot
Thanks Duncan, I now remember also having all the red warning lights, a bit scary. Drobo certainly lets you know when he is not happy ;-) Cheers, Ronni On 21/12/2008, at 2:56 PM, Duncan Hardman wrote: No problem with updating the firmware but the firmware out of the box gave us issues with all red warning lights coming on all the drives and therefore no data or protection. Once we had updated the firmware for both the drobo and the drobo share we have had no problems at all and love it too :) Hope this clears it up Cheers Duncan On 21/12/2008, at 12:43 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: That's interesting Duncan. I know I updated the Firmware without any problems at all. I think if I remember Drobo Dashboard asked me to, not sure though? What issues did you experience? Was it to do with your Firewall blocking the web-based firmware update? Or did it fail to install? Cheers, Ronni On 21/12/2008, at 11:50 AM, Duncan Hardman Lists wrote: I agree this is a great product BUT make sure you update the firmware before you format the drives as we had a few minor issues. Cheers Duncan Sent from my iPhone On 21/12/2008, at 11:10 AM, Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au wrote: Hello People, When Peta asked for advice about Backup Drives, it prompted me to send some information on my new Backup Storage setup. I purchased (through Daniel of MacWizardry), and have been using the 2nd Generation DROBO-Storage Robot for over a month now and I'm thoroughly impressed, he is brilliant! He is also FUN! He has lots of lights and looks very cool sitting on my desk. DROBO Dashboard is one neat application. Drobo is designed to actively monitor and protect your data at all times. It is also programmed to optimise data storage so you don't have to. Drobo acts as a large, single pool of storage that is always available and it's also inherently backed-up on the Drobo and protected against drive failure or disk corruption. He is One Big Pool of Protected Storage. Drobo has Four (4) Data Bays. He will only take 3.5 SATA1 SATA11 Drives NOT IDE drives. You must have at least two drives in Drobo. I now have in DROBO three drives. 1TB SATA + 1TB SATA + 250GB SATA Drives, giving me 2.25TB (2.04TB Actual). 934.96GB is being used for Protection. When I only had 1TB + 250GB, DROBO gave me the RED ALERT that I must insert a new drive into the empty Data Bay indicated by the red light. Drobo needed extra space for protection of my data. You can use Drobolator Capacity Calculator to help you select the number and size of drives to fit your needs http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobolator.html You can just add new disks when you need more capacity, or replace a smaller drive with a larger one, no data migration or reconfiguration is required. Your data has multiple layers of automatic protection. Drobo works with Time Machine, SuperDuper, and other backup software and utilities. It works perfectly with Déjà Vu (the backup I use). You can Network Drobo. This explains Networking Drobo: http://www.thedigitalstory.com/blog/2008/04/drobo_hard_drive_bac.html Drobo utilises a revolutionary storage technology that makes it simple for anyone to use, yet is powerful enough for business. Once you experience the power of Drobo, the idea of keeping multiple external drives or a RAID 5 array will seem as antiquated as that 28.8Kbps modem in the back of your closet. This latest release Second Generation has 2 Firewire 800 ports 1 USB 2.0 port. The First generation was only USB 2.0. Now, it's also fast. Drobo is available with FireWire 800 and enhanced USB 2.0 performance giving you the data protection and ease you need, with the speed and interface you want. http://www.drobo.com/Products/drobodemo.html?ID=Macworld1 http://www.drobo.com/Products/FAQs.html Mini-Review from Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/08/drobo-second-gen-mini-review/ In-Depth Review from Automated Home (even though it's mainly showing Windows side, it's quite informative): http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/Reviews/Drobo-DroboShare-In-Depth-Review.html The retail on them is now $1029.95 for the Drobo Storage Robot unit. Then you use your SATA Drives or purchase more or larger drives when you need them. http://www.conexus.com.au/detail.php?item=DDH001 Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
