Re: Database on OS X

2005-03-22 Thread Diana & Graham Stevens

John Currie wrote:

My one great regret as a member of WAMUG is that I have not 
persuaded a single member to give Panorama a go.


Maybe not you directly but Philippe Chaperon posted a review and 
mentioned you last week. This prompted me to download the fully 
functional test drive of Panorama last Friday. It is advertised as 
only limited in size of database not time or functionality.


I am working through the tutorials, so far it is fantastic. If it 
allows me to transform data, in the way I now do in FoxPro running 
under Classic, I shall be very happy to pay up!


There was a place for a comment in the application, I explained what 
I wanted to do and received a reply the next day saying it should be 
fine and advising me to join the email discussion group.


I would also be happy to pay my subscription to WAMUG this year but 
my email to the new treasurer sent a week ago, asking where I should 
post the cheque, remains unanswered.


Diana


Re: Database on OS X

2005-03-22 Thread wyvern


My one great regret  as a member of WAMUG is that I have not persuaded 
a single member to give Panorama a  go.

I assure you that is my fault not Panorama's.


Pt John.  you persuaded me way back in the old classic days and 
I still have it and still use it to this day on X. The same version 
that run on 6 then 7 then 8 through 9 is still going strong. So yeah 
folks listen to John Panorama runs rings around FMP for ease of use 
and speed and you know the one thing it has that i miss when i 
have to use FMP... it can search on 'not equal to' and before 
anyone tells me FMP can find omitted that is not the same thing .


Cheers John

Yvonne

Like Apple and Microsoft it is a David and Goliath situation 
unfortunately in this case Apple is the Goliath .
PROVUE  is along with Microsoft  the only surviving software company 
from the inception of Macintosh .


Check it out at http://www.provue.com/

Cheers
John





Re: Database on OS X

2005-03-22 Thread John Currie

Dear WAMUG'ers,

For those interested in databases for the Mac platform I suggest a quick
look at this interesting article:
http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=08018
 If the author's name was not given I would have sworn that it was written
by our very own John C!
Regards,
Philippe



For those on the list who don't know who Philippe is referring to, I 
am the John C "nutter" who happens to believe that  Panorama is a 
more versatile  data base than FMP  for many if not most purposes . 
If you need a multi user data base or one which can readily be 
searchable on the Web you may have to wait until June.  There are 
ways and means of doing both these things with  the current version 
however they have relied on third party  software which has been sold 
and allowed to wither on the vine.
Jim Rae  proprietor and  program writer has been  working on the OS X 
version of  Panorama which was launched last year. Concurrently  he 
has been working on the "enterprise" edition  which will build into 
Panorama multi user and  interactive web facilities.The beta version 
exists and is being tested by the gurus. Jim has promised its launch 
June or July this year.
Panorama being RAM based is blazingly fast. Unlike FMP and other disk 
writing data bases it  does not assemble its reports  by retrieving 
data from the disk  on the basis of indexed fields.
eg I have a data base of  some 40,000 records of  descriptions of 
photographs and other details  held at the Aviation Heritage Museum . 
I can search  and find all the records which begin with, end with, 
contain , equal  etc. etc.  in  50 fields
(none of which are burdened with indexes) in  a split second with 
scanned images if required.  How much space does this file occupy? 
5.3 mbs.
Having found the information I want I can display or print  it in pre 
designed forms (list  or card) or if I wanted a one off  presentation 
I could design and print a form on the fly  which may be discarded by 
not saving the data base when  I close.


The background to the Tidbits article is  a review of Panorama V 
which appears in the April ? issue of US MacWorld  The reviewer one 
William Porter  is apparently a  long time FMP developer who has a 
number of books on FMP to his credit.
This was not revealed by MacWorld  and has not unnaturally called 
into question the motives behind the faint praise and flawed review.
My one great regret  as a member of WAMUG is that I have not 
persuaded a single member to give Panorama a  go.

I assure you that is my fault not Panorama's.
Like Apple and Microsoft it is a David and Goliath situation 
unfortunately in this case Apple is the Goliath .
PROVUE  is along with Microsoft  the only surviving software company 
from the inception of Macintosh .


Check it out at http://www.provue.com/

Cheers
John


Database on OS X

2005-03-17 Thread J Philippe Chaperon
Dear WAMUG'ers,

For those interested in databases for the Mac platform I suggest a quick
look at this interesting article:


http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=08018


 If the author's name was not given I would have sworn that it was written
by our very own John C!

Regards,

Philippe


-- 
If a man does only what is required of him, he is a slave. If a
man does more than is required of him, he is a free man.

Chinese Proverb