Re: Editing non-standard size movies
Darren, It is possible to do this sort of editing in Final Cut Pro/Express, but it's a bit nasty - FCP and iMovie are both really geared towards full-res video work. You can manually set FCP to work at 320x240 etc, but you generally still have to render and the result gets re-compressed at the end. A bit of overkill really. My favourite is: - Quicktime Pro ($US29) http://www.apple.com/quicktime/buy/ Enables amazingly powerful editing capabilities within Apple's Quicktime Player including: - Cutting and pasting of audio and video tracks - Overlaying text, graphics on top of or alongside multiple video tracks - Superimposing video tracks on top of or alongside other video tracks (picture-in-picture effects etc) - scaling, distorting, rotating of video clips and graphics - works at native resolution of video clips - doesn't recompress video clips unless you specifically choose Export However, simple transitions are unfortunately not so easy to do in QT Player (!!) Here is an example I put together using QT player: http://ox/multimedia/Multitrackmovs/index.htm (note the cross-fade transitions in the video track were done in another video editing app, but everything else was composited in QT Player) To access the power of QT Player, you need to delve into the Get Movie Properties dialog, choose a track and then choose options like Size which enables a lot of these amazing effects. There are a few other Quicktime Editors out there, here's one that has a fair number of capabilities: - MediaEdit Pro (US$59.95) http://www.miensoftware.com/mediaedit.html -Mart -- Martin Hill mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] homepages: http://mart.ozmac.com Mb: 0417-967-969 hm: (08)9314-5242 From: Darren Kam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:57:35 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Editing non-standard size movies My apologies for not making this clearer - the source footage is coming in from: 1) a digital camera, (320x240 @ 15fps) 2) a Nokia 6230, (???x??? @ ??fps) 3) little Macromedia Flash movies made at 400x300, 15fps So as you can see I don't want any of this scaled up to 720x576!! I'd much rather work with the footage at 400x300 rather than scale up and then scale back down (as would be the case using iMovie). If Adobe Premiere is no longer an option I have been hanging out to find a reason to get the Producers Pack (Final Cut Pro HD, Motion, DVD Studio Pro) but that'd also mean getting a new G5! Thanks for the advice, Darren. At 1:34 AM +0800 15/12/04, Rob Davies wrote: Evening, On 14/12/2004, at 11:30 PM, Darren Kam wrote: Greetings, Have been playing around with iMovie but it seems to lock me into a default PAL resolution of 720x576 when I really just want to create/edit a movie that is only 400x300 pixels in size. (i.e. if I import a 400x300 clip into iMovie it converts it to a 720x576 DV file which is not what I want) I am assuming you are referencing DV tape captured by iMovie, not captured video from the web. Create the movie in it's PAL state, then when you are happy with what you have you can export it creating the relevant mpeg or file format you are after including size, of course options in FCP will surpass those offered in iMovie. If it is the web you are specifically aiming at I would suggest looking into Flash, but still edit and capture your imagery via FCP preferably, but iMovie will suffice. But, their are many and varied options within scenarios etc. etc... Will Final Cut Pro enable me to work at smaller sizes? (ie to produce movies for the web etc) Cheers, Darren. HTH Cheer! Rob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- [ Duckie Designs ] ABN: 25 227 720 141 Web www.duckiedesigns.com.au Mobile 0411 242 591 -- This Email may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named. If you have received this information in error, or are advised that you have been posted this Email by accident, please notify the sender by return Email, do not redistribute it, delete the Email and keep no copies. All errors and omissions excepted. -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Editing non-standard size movies
Mart, your link http://ox/multimedia/Multitrackmovs/index.htm didn't work for me as it said it couldn't find the server 'ox'. Would like to see it if you can help with access. Cheers, Susan. On 16/12/04 10:11 AM, Martin Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren, It is possible to do this sort of editing in Final Cut Pro/Express, but it's a bit nasty - FCP and iMovie are both really geared towards full-res video work. You can manually set FCP to work at 320x240 etc, but you generally still have to render and the result gets re-compressed at the end. A bit of overkill really. My favourite is: - Quicktime Pro ($US29) http://www.apple.com/quicktime/buy/ Enables amazingly powerful editing capabilities within Apple's Quicktime Player including: - Cutting and pasting of audio and video tracks - Overlaying text, graphics on top of or alongside multiple video tracks - Superimposing video tracks on top of or alongside other video tracks (picture-in-picture effects etc) - scaling, distorting, rotating of video clips and graphics - works at native resolution of video clips - doesn't recompress video clips unless you specifically choose Export However, simple transitions are unfortunately not so easy to do in QT Player (!!) Here is an example I put together using QT player: http://ox/multimedia/Multitrackmovs/index.htm (note the cross-fade transitions in the video track were done in another video editing app, but everything else was composited in QT Player) To access the power of QT Player, you need to delve into the Get Movie Properties dialog, choose a track and then choose options like Size which enables a lot of these amazing effects. There are a few other Quicktime Editors out there, here's one that has a fair number of capabilities: - MediaEdit Pro (US$59.95) http://www.miensoftware.com/mediaedit.html -Mart -- Martin Hill mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] homepages: http://mart.ozmac.com Mb: 0417-967-969 hm: (08)9314-5242 From: Darren Kam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:57:35 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Editing non-standard size movies My apologies for not making this clearer - the source footage is coming in from: 1) a digital camera, (320x240 @ 15fps) 2) a Nokia 6230, (???x??? @ ??fps) 3) little Macromedia Flash movies made at 400x300, 15fps So as you can see I don't want any of this scaled up to 720x576!! I'd much rather work with the footage at 400x300 rather than scale up and then scale back down (as would be the case using iMovie). If Adobe Premiere is no longer an option I have been hanging out to find a reason to get the Producers Pack (Final Cut Pro HD, Motion, DVD Studio Pro) but that'd also mean getting a new G5! Thanks for the advice, Darren. At 1:34 AM +0800 15/12/04, Rob Davies wrote: Evening, On 14/12/2004, at 11:30 PM, Darren Kam wrote: Greetings, Have been playing around with iMovie but it seems to lock me into a default PAL resolution of 720x576 when I really just want to create/edit a movie that is only 400x300 pixels in size. (i.e. if I import a 400x300 clip into iMovie it converts it to a 720x576 DV file which is not what I want) I am assuming you are referencing DV tape captured by iMovie, not captured video from the web. Create the movie in it's PAL state, then when you are happy with what you have you can export it creating the relevant mpeg or file format you are after including size, of course options in FCP will surpass those offered in iMovie. If it is the web you are specifically aiming at I would suggest looking into Flash, but still edit and capture your imagery via FCP preferably, but iMovie will suffice. But, their are many and varied options within scenarios etc. etc... Will Final Cut Pro enable me to work at smaller sizes? (ie to produce movies for the web etc) Cheers, Darren. HTH Cheer! Rob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- [ Duckie Designs ] ABN: 25 227 720 141 Web www.duckiedesigns.com.au Mobile 0411 242 591 -- This Email may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named. If you have received this information in error, or are advised that you have been posted this Email by accident, please notify the sender by return Email, do not redistribute it, delete the Email and keep no copies. All errors and omissions excepted. -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au
Re: Editing non-standard size movies
Sorry about that. The url should have been: http://ox.curtin.edu.au/multimedia/Multitrackmovs/index.htm -Mart -- Martin Hill mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] homepages: http://mart.ozmac.com Mb: 0417-967-969 hm: (08)9314-5242 From: Susan Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mart, your link http://ox/multimedia/Multitrackmovs/index.htm didn't work for me as it said it couldn't find the server 'ox'. Would like to see it if you can help with access. Cheers, Susan. On 16/12/04 10:11 AM, Martin Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren, It is possible to do this sort of editing in Final Cut Pro/Express, but it's a bit nasty - FCP and iMovie are both really geared towards full-res video work. You can manually set FCP to work at 320x240 etc, but you generally still have to render and the result gets re-compressed at the end. A bit of overkill really. My favourite is: - Quicktime Pro ($US29) http://www.apple.com/quicktime/buy/ Enables amazingly powerful editing capabilities within Apple's Quicktime Player including: - Cutting and pasting of audio and video tracks - Overlaying text, graphics on top of or alongside multiple video tracks - Superimposing video tracks on top of or alongside other video tracks (picture-in-picture effects etc) - scaling, distorting, rotating of video clips and graphics - works at native resolution of video clips - doesn't recompress video clips unless you specifically choose Export However, simple transitions are unfortunately not so easy to do in QT Player (!!) Here is an example I put together using QT player: http://ox/multimedia/Multitrackmovs/index.htm (note the cross-fade transitions in the video track were done in another video editing app, but everything else was composited in QT Player) To access the power of QT Player, you need to delve into the Get Movie Properties dialog, choose a track and then choose options like Size which enables a lot of these amazing effects. There are a few other Quicktime Editors out there, here's one that has a fair number of capabilities: - MediaEdit Pro (US$59.95) http://www.miensoftware.com/mediaedit.html -Mart -- Martin Hill mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] homepages: http://mart.ozmac.com Mb: 0417-967-969 hm: (08)9314-5242 From: Darren Kam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:57:35 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Editing non-standard size movies My apologies for not making this clearer - the source footage is coming in from: 1) a digital camera, (320x240 @ 15fps) 2) a Nokia 6230, (???x??? @ ??fps) 3) little Macromedia Flash movies made at 400x300, 15fps So as you can see I don't want any of this scaled up to 720x576!! I'd much rather work with the footage at 400x300 rather than scale up and then scale back down (as would be the case using iMovie). If Adobe Premiere is no longer an option I have been hanging out to find a reason to get the Producers Pack (Final Cut Pro HD, Motion, DVD Studio Pro) but that'd also mean getting a new G5! Thanks for the advice, Darren. At 1:34 AM +0800 15/12/04, Rob Davies wrote: Evening, On 14/12/2004, at 11:30 PM, Darren Kam wrote: Greetings, Have been playing around with iMovie but it seems to lock me into a default PAL resolution of 720x576 when I really just want to create/edit a movie that is only 400x300 pixels in size. (i.e. if I import a 400x300 clip into iMovie it converts it to a 720x576 DV file which is not what I want) I am assuming you are referencing DV tape captured by iMovie, not captured video from the web. Create the movie in it's PAL state, then when you are happy with what you have you can export it creating the relevant mpeg or file format you are after including size, of course options in FCP will surpass those offered in iMovie. If it is the web you are specifically aiming at I would suggest looking into Flash, but still edit and capture your imagery via FCP preferably, but iMovie will suffice. But, their are many and varied options within scenarios etc. etc... Will Final Cut Pro enable me to work at smaller sizes? (ie to produce movies for the web etc) Cheers, Darren. HTH Cheer! Rob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- [ Duckie Designs ] ABN: 25 227 720 141 Web www.duckiedesigns.com.au Mobile 0411 242 591 -- This Email may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named. If you have received this information in error, or are advised that you have been posted this Email
Re: Editing non-standard size movies
I agree with Martin that QuickTime Pro is the best solution though I'd suggest reading QuickTime's online help to get a better understanding. Most professional authoring programs or compression programs should also be capable but cost much more. Greg Sharp On 16/12/04 1:11 PM, Martin Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My favourite is: - Quicktime Pro ($US29) http://www.apple.com/quicktime/buy/
Re: Editing non-standard size movies
Thanks Martin Greg - I have registered multiple copies of QuickTime Pro (didn't realise it came with DVD Studio Pro and thus I ordered both at the same time) and am currently using it to composite the video - I was just hoping for something a little less cumbersome for adding in sound effects/audio tracks, and adding in some neat transitions. Having said that, I'm trying out Martin's suggestion of MediaEdit Pro and it seems to work prety well. FWIW, the US$29 is money well spent registering QuickTime, and exporting straight to MPEG-2 (albeit I think there are better MPEG-2 encoders out there) is a godsend! Thanks again, Darren. On 16/12/04 10:11 AM, Martin Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a few other Quicktime Editors out there, here's one that has a fair number of capabilities: - MediaEdit Pro (US$59.95) http://www.miensoftware.com/mediaedit.html -Mart
Re: Editing non-standard size movies
Evening, On 14/12/2004, at 11:30 PM, Darren Kam wrote: Greetings, Have been playing around with iMovie but it seems to lock me into a default PAL resolution of 720x576 when I really just want to create/edit a movie that is only 400x300 pixels in size. (i.e. if I import a 400x300 clip into iMovie it converts it to a 720x576 DV file which is not what I want) I am assuming you are referencing DV tape captured by iMovie, not captured video from the web. Create the movie in it's PAL state, then when you are happy with what you have you can export it creating the relevant mpeg or file format you are after including size, of course options in FCP will surpass those offered in iMovie. If it is the web you are specifically aiming at I would suggest looking into Flash, but still edit and capture your imagery via FCP preferably, but iMovie will suffice. But, their are many and varied options within scenarios etc. etc... Will Final Cut Pro enable me to work at smaller sizes? (ie to produce movies for the web etc) Cheers, Darren. HTH Cheer! Rob
Re: Editing non-standard size movies
My apologies for not making this clearer - the source footage is coming in from: 1) a digital camera, (320x240 @ 15fps) 2) a Nokia 6230, (???x??? @ ??fps) 3) little Macromedia Flash movies made at 400x300, 15fps So as you can see I don't want any of this scaled up to 720x576!! I'd much rather work with the footage at 400x300 rather than scale up and then scale back down (as would be the case using iMovie). If Adobe Premiere is no longer an option I have been hanging out to find a reason to get the Producers Pack (Final Cut Pro HD, Motion, DVD Studio Pro) but that'd also mean getting a new G5! Thanks for the advice, Darren. At 1:34 AM +0800 15/12/04, Rob Davies wrote: Evening, On 14/12/2004, at 11:30 PM, Darren Kam wrote: Greetings, Have been playing around with iMovie but it seems to lock me into a default PAL resolution of 720x576 when I really just want to create/edit a movie that is only 400x300 pixels in size. (i.e. if I import a 400x300 clip into iMovie it converts it to a 720x576 DV file which is not what I want) I am assuming you are referencing DV tape captured by iMovie, not captured video from the web. Create the movie in it's PAL state, then when you are happy with what you have you can export it creating the relevant mpeg or file format you are after including size, of course options in FCP will surpass those offered in iMovie. If it is the web you are specifically aiming at I would suggest looking into Flash, but still edit and capture your imagery via FCP preferably, but iMovie will suffice. But, their are many and varied options within scenarios etc. etc... Will Final Cut Pro enable me to work at smaller sizes? (ie to produce movies for the web etc) Cheers, Darren. HTH Cheer! Rob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- [ Duckie Designs ] ABN: 25 227 720 141 Web www.duckiedesigns.com.au Mobile 0411 242 591 -- This Email may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named. If you have received this information in error, or are advised that you have been posted this Email by accident, please notify the sender by return Email, do not redistribute it, delete the Email and keep no copies. All errors and omissions excepted. --
Editing non-standard size movies
Greetings, Have been playing around with iMovie but it seems to lock me into a default PAL resolution of 720x576 when I really just want to create/edit a movie that is only 400x300 pixels in size. (i.e. if I import a 400x300 clip into iMovie it converts it to a 720x576 DV file which is not what I want) Will Final Cut Pro enable me to work at smaller sizes? (ie to produce movies for the web etc) Cheers, Darren.
