Re: Loopy G3

2003-09-14 Thread Vladimir James
Thanks to those who offered suggestions on the G3 with the looped printer
cable. I couldn't help but smile at Onno's suggestion that the looped
cable be removed first. Reminded me of an old cookbook that stated: To
make a rabbit stew, first catch the rabbit. I guess one shouldn't assume
too much when dealing with other people's problems.

Anyhow, I had already rebuilt the directory (MacOS 9.2.1), tried various
startup procedures (including Extensions Off), run Disk First Aid, zapped
the PRAM, booted from a CD and quietly cursed. None of those seemed to do
much good. The startup always froze after the first icon appeared. The
only variation was to sometimes see the error message system failure ...
illegal instruction.

I guess it's Number 5 then.   :-(

Vlad James

-- Onno's suggestions 

I'd start with removing the cable. Then I'd do the following in order:

 1. I'd startup with the shift-key down.
 2. If that fails, I'd start with a boot-CD.
 3. If that fails, I'd zap the pRAM and try #1, then #2, then #4.
 4. If that fails, I'd locate the motherboard reset button, press
that and try #1, #2, #3, #5.
 5. I'd call it a hardware failure and send it to my friendly Apple
Store.



Loopy G3

2003-09-13 Thread Vladimir James
Anyone ever heard of the printer cable on a beige G3/266 connected from
the printer port to the modem port? My stepdaughter accidentally did this
on her G3, thus forming a diabolical loop. She then started the G3.
(Makes you wince, doesn't it?) This has resulted in the startup procedure
stopping after one or two extensions are loaded with a blank error window
appearing. During my examination I once saw words in the error message,
stating system failure, illegal instruction.

DiskWarrior and Disk First Aid say all is well. I have thus assumed it is
a hardware problem.

Looks like it will have to go in for repairs. Anyone have any suggestions
... comments?

Vlad James



Re: Loopy G3

2003-09-13 Thread Onno Benschop
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 16:05, Vladimir James wrote:
 Anyone ever heard of the printer cable on a beige G3/266 connected from
 the printer port to the modem port? My stepdaughter accidentally did this
 on her G3, thus forming a diabolical loop. She then started the G3.
 (Makes you wince, doesn't it?) This has resulted in the startup procedure
 stopping after one or two extensions are loaded with a blank error window
 appearing. During my examination I once saw words in the error message,
 stating system failure, illegal instruction.

I'd start with removing the cable. Then I'd do the following in order:

 1. I'd startup with the shift-key down.
 2. If that fails, I'd start with a boot-CD.
 3. If that fails, I'd zap the pRAM and try #1, then #2, then #4.
 4. If that fails, I'd locate the motherboard reset button, press
that and try #1, #2, #3, #5.
 5. I'd call it a hardware failure and send it to my friendly Apple
Store.

Cheers,


Onno Benschop 

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Re: Loopy G3

2003-09-13 Thread Murdoch Allen
on 13/9/03 4:05 PM, Vladimir  James at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone ever heard of the printer cable on a beige G3/266 connected from
 the printer port to the modem port? My stepdaughter accidentally did this
 on her G3, thus forming a diabolical loop. She then started the G3.
 (Makes you wince, doesn't it?) This has resulted in the startup procedure
 stopping after one or two extensions are loaded with a blank error window
 appearing. During my examination I once saw words in the error message,
 stating system failure, illegal instruction.
 
 DiskWarrior and Disk First Aid say all is well. I have thus assumed it is
 a hardware problem.
 
 Looks like it will have to go in for repairs. Anyone have any suggestions
 ... comments?
 
 Vlad James
 
Have you tried booting from the system disc or if you have it Norton's ?