Re: MacOS 10.6 and appletalk printer
To help other users of MacOS 10.6 and later I report on the solution to my problem of MacOS 10.6 no longer having the ability to talk AppleTalk to old but trusty laser printers. Many thanks to Geoffrey Thomlinson, David Noel, and Ronda Brown for steering me in the right direction. 1 I bought the recommended HP LaserDirect 300X print server via eBay from an Adelaide supplier, and connected it to my Ethernet network, and to the printer via a parallel cable. Found that the print server was made in 1998. 2 Downloaded the manuals for the print server from the HP website. 3 From the installation manual found out how to reset all of the print server's settings. The procedure: While holding down the Test button on the print server, plug the power module into the print server and continue to hold down the Test button for five seconds. All previous configuration settings are erased. 4 From the Administrator's Guide found out that the print server generates an IP address of 192.0.0.192 two minutes after a reset. 5 Used System Preference/ Print and Fax to set up a HP jetdirect - Socket protocol printer with IP address 192.0.0.192 and HP Laserjet 6MP - Gutenprint v 5.2.3 print driver. 6 Printed a page with images and it worked! 7 Switched off DHCP and set a fixed IP address in the print server, using terminal and several arcane instructions as per the Administrator's guide. This was recommended to stop the print server from automatically changing IP address. Installed a new printer with the relevant IP address. Tried a test print. Printer not found. #%*#! 8 Once again reset the print driver, waited two minutes, and used my original printer setting. Printing is fine once again. Have switched off and on both computer and print driver several times since, and found no DHCP problems. Moral of the story; don't bother with step 7 despite what several websites advise. 9 You may be interested to know that other computers on my network that use MacOS 10.5 and lower are still happily printing to the printer through the new print server, using their old AppleTalk settings. No changes needed at any time. 10 After all that I hope that my trusty HP LaserJet 6MP and the print server last for another 10 years. Regards, Ray Forma Tel +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MacOS 10.6 and appletalk printer
Hi Ray -- -- Thanks very much for all the work you put into this, and congratulations on your final victory! I'm in China at the moment, but I'll certainly try to emulate your success when I'm back home next month. Cheers -- David Noel 2010 Oct 26 == On 26 October 2010 19:13, Ray Forma r...@smartchat.net.au wrote: To help other users of MacOS 10.6 and later I report on the solution to my problem of MacOS 10.6 no longer having the ability to talk AppleTalk to old but trusty laser printers. Many thanks to Geoffrey Thomlinson, David Noel, and Ronda Brown for steering me in the right direction. 1 I bought the recommended HP LaserDirect 300X print server via eBay from an Adelaide supplier, and connected it to my Ethernet network, and to the printer via a parallel cable. Found that the print server was made in 1998. 2 Downloaded the manuals for the print server from the HP website. 3 From the installation manual found out how to reset all of the print server's settings. The procedure: While holding down the Test button on the print server, plug the power module into the print server and continue to hold down the Test button for five seconds. All previous configuration settings are erased. 4 From the Administrator's Guide found out that the print server generates an IP address of 192.0.0.192 two minutes after a reset. 5 Used System Preference/ Print and Fax to set up a HP jetdirect - Socket protocol printer with IP address 192.0.0.192 and HP Laserjet 6MP - Gutenprint v 5.2.3 print driver. 6 Printed a page with images and it worked! 7 Switched off DHCP and set a fixed IP address in the print server, using terminal and several arcane instructions as per the Administrator's guide. This was recommended to stop the print server from automatically changing IP address. Installed a new printer with the relevant IP address. Tried a test print. Printer not found. #%*#! 8 Once again reset the print driver, waited two minutes, and used my original printer setting. Printing is fine once again. Have switched off and on both computer and print driver several times since, and found no DHCP problems. Moral of the story; don't bother with step 7 despite what several websites advise. 9 You may be interested to know that other computers on my network that use MacOS 10.5 and lower are still happily printing to the printer through the new print server, using their old AppleTalk settings. No changes needed at any time. 10 After all that I hope that my trusty HP LaserJet 6MP and the print server last for another 10 years. Regards, Ray Forma Tel +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
MacOS 10.6 and appletalk printer
I have a trusty old HP LaserJet 6MP, which is a Postscript laser printer that has an Appletalk port, as well as a parallel port. I have connected it to my Ethernet network via an Ethernet-Parallel converter box. This has worked well with all types of Mac running everything from System 9 to MacOS 10.5 connected to the Ethernet network. I now have a new Mac that runs under MacOS 10.6.4 (Snow Leopard). MacOS 10.6 apparently no longer supports Appletalk, so Print Fax in System Preferences no longer 'sees' my trusty old Appletalk laser printer. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can connect to my laser under MacOS 10.6? Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MacOS 10.6 and appletalk printer
On 21/09/2010, at 11:07 PM, Ray Forma wrote: I have a trusty old HP LaserJet 6MP, which is a Postscript laser printer that has an Appletalk port, as well as a parallel port. I have connected it to my Ethernet network via an Ethernet-Parallel converter box. This has worked well with all types of Mac running everything from System 9 to MacOS 10.5 connected to the Ethernet network. I now have a new Mac that runs under MacOS 10.6.4 (Snow Leopard). MacOS 10.6 apparently no longer supports Appletalk, so Print Fax in System Preferences no longer 'sees' my trusty old Appletalk laser printer. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can connect to my laser under MacOS 10.6? Hi Ray, You might be able to set it up to print by IP Address. Have a read here: How-To: Resurrect Your AppleTalk Printer in Snow Leopard http://theappleblog.com/2009/09/04/how-to-resurrect-your-appletalk-printer-in-snow-leopard/ Might find some help or solution here: http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1270698145195+28353475threadId=1368576 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MacOS 10.6 and appletalk printer
Hi Ray -- -- I have a similar problem with an HP 5MP laser printer which I've been working on for many months (years?). I haven't fixed it yet, but have a concept for doing so. -- Where the data connection goes into the back of the printer, if you take off the lid you should see 3 connectors, one of which is the Appletalk connector, which does not work with Snow Leopard. Of the other 2 connectors, one is (if I remember rightly) an RS232 connector like those used on external devices in the old Mac days. -- The concept is to connect this connector directly to the SL Mac and run the printer as a private printer for this computer alone. I am sure this will work as, again in the old days, I've printed on the HP using a Windows machine through this link. -- This worked even without disconnecting the Appletalk port, so the printer would receive inputs from either the Appletalk/Ethernet network or the direct connection (we never tried mixing inputs simultaneously) and print correctly. -- I currently have a newer Snow Leopard iMac and an older iMac on Leopard, both linked through my Belkin router. If I really need to use the HP printer I can generate a file on the newer machine, transfer it to the older one, and print from that. Generally I just use a Canon Pixma inkjet attached to the new machine. -- Below are references to my pursuit of a suitable connector. I did get a Volktek NWT-701 Ethernet Twisted-pair Transceiver, which had a small-size RS232 male connector on one end and an Ethernet connector on the other, but could not find the right connectors among my junkpile to actually make the link through from new iMac to HP printer. -- You are welcome to borrow this transceiver to try it. I'd certainly be interested if if you get a successful link. -- I've tried all sorts of software variations along the lines suggested by Ronni, but never succeeded with any of them. Cheers -- David Noel 2010 Sep 22 - - - - - - - - 1) David Noel to WAMUG Hi Gang -- -- My Hewlett-Packard MP3 laser printer has 3 types of connector at the back. One is an Appletalk connector, which I have been using with an EtherMac iPrint adapter to Ethernet, but no longer works under Snow Leopard, as Appletalk is not supported. -- The other 2 are rectangular multipin connectors, which look as in the photos at http://www.aoi.com.au/HPConnect I thought these were RS232 connectors, but that doesn't appear to be the case. -- Can anyone tell me if I can get a cable which would connect either of these ports to an Ethernet socket on my router? Cheers -- David Noel 2009 Dec 29 - - - - - - 2) The first image appears to be a Centronics Parallel connector and there are a few Parallel-Ethernet adaptors on the market, particularly ebay that you can use... see the above story for recommendations The other appears to be a AUI Ethernet interface (an old style ethernet connection) and you should be able to pick up a AUI to RJ45 adaptors for around $20... if you can find one -- Nicholas Pyers (nicho...@appleusers.org) Founder Publisher, AppleUsers.org http://www.appleusers.org/ - - - - - - 3) Hi Benedict -- -- Would you be able to source either or both of the AUI Ethernet interface (an old style ethernet connection) and a AUI to RJ45 adaptor for me? - - - - - 4) For the second one, is this what you're looking for? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VOLTEK-AUI-TO-RJ45-TWISTED-PAIR-TRANSCEIVER-NEW_W0QQitemZ220373679412QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Computers_Networking_Accessories?hash=item334f4b7d34 Having a bit more trouble with the AUI Ethernet cable, is this it? http://www.coolice.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2384utm_source=getpriceutm_medium=cpc === On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Ray Forma r...@smartchat.net.au wrote: I have a trusty old HP LaserJet 6MP, which is a Postscript laser printer that has an Appletalk port, as well as a parallel port. I have connected it to my Ethernet network via an Ethernet-Parallel converter box. This has worked well with all types of Mac running everything from System 9 to MacOS 10.5 connected to the Ethernet network. I now have a new Mac that runs under MacOS 10.6.4 (Snow Leopard). MacOS 10.6 apparently no longer supports Appletalk, so Print Fax in System Preferences no longer 'sees' my trusty old Appletalk laser printer. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can connect to my laser under MacOS 10.6? Regards, Ray Forma Tel Fax +61 (0)8 9335 6568 Mob +61 (0) 428 596938 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: MacOS 10.6 and appletalk printer
On 21/09/2010, at 11:07 PM, Ray Forma wrote: I have a trusty old HP LaserJet 6MP, which is a Postscript laser printer that has an Appletalk port, as well as a parallel port. I have connected it to my Ethernet network via an Ethernet-Parallel converter box. This has worked well with all types of Mac running everything from System 9 to MacOS 10.5 connected to the Ethernet network. I now have a new Mac that runs under MacOS 10.6.4 (Snow Leopard). MacOS 10.6 apparently no longer supports Appletalk, so Print Fax in System Preferences no longer 'sees' my trusty old Appletalk laser printer. Does anyone have any ideas about how I can connect to my laser under MacOS 10.6? Hi Ray, On Apple Discussions, these people have had success getting printing from HP LaserJet 6MP 5MP to work in Snow Leopard. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2513085start=0tstart=0 TripleChime: I forgot to mention that the HP JetDirect 300X would need a PC-type parallel printer cable to connect it to you printer. My HP 5MP printer has connectors for both the 25-pin IEEE 1284C and the larger 36-pin IEEE 1284B cable ends, while the JetDirect 300X has a 25-pin connector, so you can use either a 25-pin to 25-pin cable or a 25-pin to 30-pin cable if the HP 6MP is the same. My quiet, efficient 5MP still is the most-used printer in the house after 15-1/2 years even though I have two recent (but very power hungry and noisy!) laser printers. Do not give yours up for a cheap new laser printer that will quite literally make dogs growl and bark with all the racket! http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12182107#12182107 sig: You need to set up the printer using HP Jetdirect Socket. By printing out a test print from the 300x you can find out the assigned IP address given by your router and then use that to set up the printer. Worked for me using a LaserJet 4MP. greg sahli sig was talking about the protocol choice in Print Fax - IP HP Jetdirect. Try that. (don't use the queue name with Jetdirect protocol - leave blank.) Its good to see both driver choices. You can also try generic postscript and generic PCL5/6. Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core i7 2.66GHz / 4GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm OS X 10.6.3 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
