Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[FW via WAMUG]

Hi Daniel,

Yes, that clarifies the situation and I know what I should do.

Thank you for your advice.

Cheers

Walter

> On 9 Oct 2023, at 18:23 , Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Walter
> 
> Yes, you have to repeat the transfer process for each email address.  Each 
> one will get sent a seperate code to verify it, then complete the Transfer.
> So for each different email address, you have to complete it.
> This is where it can add up - as for each person it will mostly likely be per 
> mailbox/per month. So can add up. 
> At this stage TMC still don’t have pricing on what this will cost. Reading 
> forums and things, it’s likely to be $3-$5 per month per email address. There 
> was also rumours they may do a “free tier” but that it will come ads in your 
> email. This is all rumours and speculation, so all this could change. At the 
> moment they (TMC) say they’ll advice pricing a few months before it’s renewed 
> (Sept 2024 which is when iinet etc have paid it up to).
> 
> I have more info about it on my previous newspage here - 
> https://macwizardry.com.au/news-2023-09.html
> And also on my last newsletter here - 
> https://mailchi.mp/2aa3a487e7ed/macwizardry-news-apr2023-6095435
> 
> These transfers have to be put in place before some time this month I think 
> it is. (or it may have been increased to Nov - but I’d probably get the 
> transfer in place as soon as possible so to not risk losing the email 
> addresses.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
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>> On 8 Oct 2023, at 5:32 pm, FW via WAMUG  wrote:
>> 
>>  Hello Daniel,
>> 
>>  I did the transfer to Messaging Co. and received a confirmation from
>>  them.
>> 
>>  Do I need to do the same with my wife’s email address which is included
>>  in my iiNet account ?
>> 
>>  Thanks,
>> 
>>  Cheers
>> 
>>  Walter
>> 
>>On 13 Aug 2023, at 14:32 , Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
>><[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
>>  Thanks Daniel
>>  Yep - I didn’t get an email from them either.
>>  I guess we might have to look for a new ISP before September 2024
>>  Cheers
>>  Rod ([1][2]atiinet.net.au)
>>  image.gif
>>  Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>>  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>[2][3]rb...@iinet.net.au
>>  On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
>>  <[4]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
>>  Hi All
>>  An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to
>>be
>>  honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email
>>from
>>  iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later
>>on
>>  perhaps?)
>>  Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode
>>etc)
>>  have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s
>>emails.
>>  (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email
>>address).
>>  They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP)
>>are
>>  apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I
>>can
>>  gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your
>>@isp
>>  email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen
>>any
>>  plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99
>>per
>>  email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota
>>would
>>  be.
>>  Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the
>>email
>>  address.
>>  The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the
>>main
>>  iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all
>>have a
>>  link to information about it.
>>  [5]https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
>>  Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company),
>>website's
>>  is fairly sparse on information.
>>  Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people.
>>Who
>>  may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to
>>keep
>>  it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see
>>a
>>  price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
>>  addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
>>  (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that
>>I’ve
>>  

Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Daniel Kerr via WAMUG]

Hi Walter

Yes, you have to repeat the transfer process for each email address.  Each one 
will get sent a seperate code to verify it, then complete the Transfer.
So for each different email address, you have to complete it.
This is where it can add up - as for each person it will mostly likely be per 
mailbox/per month. So can add up. 
At this stage TMC still don’t have pricing on what this will cost. Reading 
forums and things, it’s likely to be $3-$5 per month per email address. There 
was also rumours they may do a “free tier” but that it will come ads in your 
email. This is all rumours and speculation, so all this could change. At the 
moment they (TMC) say they’ll advice pricing a few months before it’s renewed 
(Sept 2024 which is when iinet etc have paid it up to).

I have more info about it on my previous newspage here - 
https://macwizardry.com.au/news-2023-09.html
And also on my last newsletter here - 
https://mailchi.mp/2aa3a487e7ed/macwizardry-news-apr2023-6095435

These transfers have to be put in place before some time this month I think it 
is. (or it may have been increased to Nov - but I’d probably get the transfer 
in place as soon as possible so to not risk losing the email addresses.

Hope that helps.
Kind regards
Daniel

 Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro 

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> On 8 Oct 2023, at 5:32 pm, FW via WAMUG  wrote:
> 
>   Hello Daniel,
> 
>   I did the transfer to Messaging Co. and received a confirmation from
>   them.
> 
>   Do I need to do the same with my wife’s email address which is included
>   in my iiNet account ?
> 
>   Thanks,
> 
>   Cheers
> 
>   Walter
> 
> On 13 Aug 2023, at 14:32 , Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
> <[1]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
>   Thanks Daniel
>   Yep - I didn’t get an email from them either.
>   I guess we might have to look for a new ISP before September 2024
>   Cheers
>   Rod ([1][2]atiinet.net.au)
>   image.gif
>   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> [2][3]rb...@iinet.net.au
>   On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
>   <[4]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
>   Hi All
>   An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to
> be
>   honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email
> from
>   iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later
> on
>   perhaps?)
>   Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode
> etc)
>   have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s
> emails.
>   (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email
> address).
>   They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP)
> are
>   apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I
> can
>   gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your
> @isp
>   email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen
> any
>   plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99
> per
>   email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota
> would
>   be.
>   Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the
> email
>   address.
>   The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the
> main
>   iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all
> have a
>   link to information about it.
>   [5]https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
>   Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company),
> website's
>   is fairly sparse on information.
>   Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people.
> Who
>   may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to
> keep
>   it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see
> a
>   price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
>   addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
>   (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that
> I’ve
>   been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
>   I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address,
> so
>   definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
>   Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free”
> 

Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Rosemary Spark via WAMUG]

   Yes. I’m with Westnet…20 years. They sent an email in June about it. I
   also contacted the Messaging Company, but apart from an acknowledgment
   that’s all for now.

I’m trying to decouple all the people I use that address for. I’m
   hoping the year’s grace will allow me to track everything that is
   connected to my westnet address…not always easy because some firms
   require a recovery email different from your login one.

   Cheers

   Rosemary Spark
   PO Box 781 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
   0414268043
   [1]arkaysp...@gmail.com

   On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 at 17:32, FW via WAMUG <[2]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au>
   wrote:

Hello Daniel,
I did the transfer to Messaging Co. and received a confirmation
 from
them.
Do I need to do the same with my wife’s email address which is
 included
in my iiNet account ?
Thanks,
Cheers
Walter
  On 13 Aug 2023, at 14:32 , Rod Blitvich via WAMUG
  <[1][3]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
Thanks Daniel
Yep - I didn’t get an email from them either.
I guess we might have to look for a new ISP before September
 2024
Cheers
Rod ([1][2][4]atiinet.net.au)
image.gif
Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
  [2][3][5]rb...@iinet.net.au
On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
<[4][6]wa...@lists.wamug.org.au> wrote:
Hi All
An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and
 to
  be
honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an
 email
  from
iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come
 later
  on
perhaps?)
Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet,
 Internode
  etc)
have decided they are no longer going to host their
 customer’s
  emails.
(And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email
  address).
They are moving it over to another business where they (the
 ISP)
  are
apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from
 what I
  can
gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using
 your
  @isp
email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t
 seen
  any
plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from
 $3.99
  per
email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the
 quota
  would
be.
Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep
 the
  email
address.
The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on
 the
  main
iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc),
 all
  have a
link to information about it.
[5][7]https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company),
  website's
is fairly sparse on information.
Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of
 people.
  Who
may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they
 want to
  keep
it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans
 won’t see
  a
price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting
 email
addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
(I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years
 that
  I’ve
been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s
 there).
I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp
 address,
  so
definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a
 “free”
  email
address like @iCloud.com, @[8]gmail.com etc- then you can
 change ISPs
without having to tell everyone your email address has
 changed.
(As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at
 some of
  the
“email only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan
 is
  $60 a
year per mailbox)
Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens
 with
  it.
Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have
 seen
  or
been aware of this. :)
Kind regards
Daniel
---
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MacWizardry
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Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[FW via WAMUG]

Hello Daniel,

I did the transfer to Messaging Co. and received a confirmation from them.
Do I need to do the same with my wife’s email address which is included in my 
iiNet account ?

Thanks, 
Cheers

Walter

> On 13 Aug 2023, at 14:32 , Rod Blitvich via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
>   Thanks Daniel
> 
>   Yep - I didn’t get an email from them either.
> 
>   I guess we might have to look for a new ISP before September 2024
> 
>   Cheers
> 
>   Rod ([1]atiinet.net.au)
>   image.gif
>   Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
>   . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> [2]rb...@iinet.net.au
> 
>   On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
>wrote:
> 
>   Hi All
>   An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to be
>   honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email from
>   iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later on
>   perhaps?)
>   Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode etc)
>   have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s emails.
>   (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email address).
>   They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP) are
>   apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I can
>   gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your @isp
>   email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen any
>   plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99 per
>   email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota would
>   be.
>   Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the email
>   address.
>   The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the main
>   iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all have a
>   link to information about it.
>   https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
>   Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company), website's
>   is fairly sparse on information.
>   Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people. Who
>   may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to keep
>   it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see a
>   price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
>   addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
>   (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that I’ve
>   been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
>   I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address, so
>   definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
>   Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free” email
>   address like @iCloud.com, @gmail.com etc- then you can change ISPs
>   without having to tell everyone your email address has changed.
>   (As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at some of the
>   “email only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan is $60 a
>   year per mailbox)
>   Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens with it.
>   Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have seen or
>   been aware of this. :)
>   Kind regards
>   Daniel
>   ---
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>   MacWizardry
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>   e : 
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Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Rod Blitvich via WAMUG]

Thanks Daniel
Yep - I didn’t get an email from them either.
I guess we might have to look for a new ISP before September 2024
Cheers
Rod (atiinet.net.au )




Rod Blitvich  - Amy & Sam’s Dad
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
  rb...@iinet.net.au  



> On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to be honest I 
> hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email from iinet advising me 
> of the change. Possibly an email will come later on perhaps?)
> 
> Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode etc) have 
> decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s emails. (And new 
> customers signing up are not given an @ISP email address).
> 
> They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP) are 
> apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I can gather), 
> then after that if you then want to still keep using your @isp email address, 
> then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen any plans as yet, but a few 
> things I read said it could be “from $3.99 per email address per month). - 
> though doesn’t show what the quota would be. 
> Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the email 
> address.
> 
> The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the main iinet 
> home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all have a link to 
> information about it.
> https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
> 
> Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company), website's is 
> fairly sparse on information.
> 
> Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people. Who may 
> have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to keep it they 
> now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see a price decrease 
> for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email addresses. Hey, I could be 
> wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
> (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that I’ve been 
> with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
> 
> I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address, so 
> definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
> Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free” email address 
> like @iCloud.com, @gmail.com etc- then you can change ISPs without having to 
> tell everyone your email address has changed.
> (As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at some of the “email 
> only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan is $60 a year per 
> mailbox)
> 
> Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens with it.
> 
> Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have seen or been 
> aware of this. :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> ---
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> MacWizardry
> 
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> accept liability. It would be appreciated that if any information in this 
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Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Robin Belford via WAMUG]

   Every one is probably getting these today

   [1]https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company

   [2]https://help.iinet.net.au/domain-name-registry-transfer

   On 1 Aug 2023, at 10:39 pm, Stephen Chape via WAMUG
wrote:

 Thank you Daniel.
 My daughter is with Westnet, so I will chat to her about this.
 On 1 Aug 2023, at 8:40 pm, Pete Smith via WAMUG
  wrote:
   G’day Daniel.
   I saw on Internode’s site today that they have not been hosting new
   email addresses since 20 June or thereabouts but I didn’t see
 anything
   about current ones. Mind you, I wasn’t looking because I was trying
 to
   access my webmail because Mail was stuffing me around yet again.
   Interestingly, I couldn’t access that at the time as well.
   I might ring them tomorrow to check if my problems are in anyway
   concerned with their new system, although my mail works fine from
   the
   iPhone.
   I’m off hunting now.
   Regards,
   Pete Smith
   On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:
   Hi All
   An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to be
   honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email from
   iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later
   on
   perhaps?)
   Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode
 etc)
   have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s
 emails.
   (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email address).
   They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP)
   are
   apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I
   can
   gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your
 @isp
   email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen any
   plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99
 per
   email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota
   would
   be.
   Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the
 email
   address.
   The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the main
   iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all
   have
 a
   link to information about it.
   https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
   Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company),
   website's
   is fairly sparse on information.
   Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people.
   Who
   may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to
 keep
   it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see
   a
   price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
   addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
   (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that
   I’ve
   been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
   I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address,
   so
   definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
   Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free”
   email
   address like @iCloud.com, @gmail.com etc- then you can change ISPs
   without having to tell everyone your email address has changed.
   (As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at some of
 the
   “email only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan is
   $60
 a
   year per mailbox)
   Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens with it.
   Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have seen
   or
   been aware of this. :)
   Kind regards
   Daniel
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Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Stephen Chape via WAMUG]

   Thank you Daniel.

   My daughter is with Westnet, so I will chat to her about this.

   On 1 Aug 2023, at 8:40 pm, Pete Smith via WAMUG
wrote:

 G’day Daniel.
 I saw on Internode’s site today that they have not been hosting new
 email addresses since 20 June or thereabouts but I didn’t see
   anything
 about current ones. Mind you, I wasn’t looking because I was trying
   to
 access my webmail because Mail was stuffing me around yet again.
 Interestingly, I couldn’t access that at the time as well.
 I might ring them tomorrow to check if my problems are in anyway
 concerned with their new system, although my mail works fine from the
 iPhone.
 I’m off hunting now.
 Regards,
 Pete Smith
 On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
  wrote:
 Hi All
 An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to be
 honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email from
 iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later on
 perhaps?)
 Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode
   etc)
 have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s
   emails.
 (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email address).
 They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP) are
 apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I can
 gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your
   @isp
 email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen any
 plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99
   per
 email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota would
 be.
 Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the
   email
 address.
 The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the main
 iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all have
   a
 link to information about it.
 https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
 Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company), website's
 is fairly sparse on information.
 Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people. Who
 may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to
   keep
 it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see a
 price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
 addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
 (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that I’ve
 been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
 I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address, so
 definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
 Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free” email
 address like @iCloud.com, @gmail.com etc- then you can change ISPs
 without having to tell everyone your email address has changed.
 (As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at some of
   the
 “email only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan is $60
   a
 year per mailbox)
 Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens with it.
 Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have seen or
 been aware of this. :)
 Kind regards
 Daniel
 ---
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Re: [WAMUG] Iinet/Westnet/TPG/internode etc stopping email address hosting

[Pete Smith via WAMUG]

   G’day Daniel.

   I saw on Internode’s site today that they have not been hosting new
   email addresses since 20 June or thereabouts but I didn’t see anything
   about current ones. Mind you, I wasn’t looking because I was trying to
   access my webmail because Mail was stuffing me around yet again.
   Interestingly, I couldn’t access that at the time as well.

   I might ring them tomorrow to check if my problems are in anyway
   concerned with their new system, although my mail works fine from the
   iPhone.

   I’m off hunting now.
   Regards,
   Pete Smith

   On 1 Aug 2023, at 6:36 pm, Daniel Kerr via WAMUG
wrote:

   Hi All
   An interesting piece of info was brought to my attention, and to be
   honest I hadn’t seen it previously. - (definitely not an email from
   iinet advising me of the change. Possibly an email will come later on
   perhaps?)
   Apparently iinet/TPG and all it’s subsidiaries (Westnet, Internode etc)
   have decided they are no longer going to host their customer’s emails.
   (And new customers signing up are not given an @ISP email address).
   They are moving it over to another business where they (the ISP) are
   apparently paying for it for a year (up to Sept 2024 from what I can
   gather), then after that if you then want to still keep using your @isp
   email address, then you will have to pay for it. I haven’t seen any
   plans as yet, but a few things I read said it could be “from $3.99 per
   email address per month). - though doesn’t show what the quota would
   be.
   Some other people had said to budget about $60 a year to keep the email
   address.
   The “notice” is on all the ISP websites, so for example on the main
   iinet home page (and same for Westnet, TPG, Internode etc), all have a
   link to information about it.
   https://help.iinet.net.au/iinet-email-messaging-company
   Even the “new” company taking over (The Messaging Company), website's
   is fairly sparse on information.
   Definitely going to be a bit of wake up call for a lot of people. Who
   may have an @isp address for 20+ years, then find if they want to keep
   it they now have to pay. And I’m sure the internet plans won’t see a
   price decrease for the money saved on not supplying/hosting email
   addresses. Hey, I could be wrong,…but, well….time will tell.
   (I have an @iinet address that I’ve had for about 22+ years that I’ve
   been with them - not that I use it very much….but it’s there).
   I know I have quite a lot of clients that use their @isp address, so
   definitely going to be a change for a lot of people.
   Another good reason to have a domain name I guess, or a “free” email
   address like @iCloud.com, @gmail.com etc- then you can change ISPs
   without having to tell everyone your email address has changed.
   (As an aside, the price is about “normal” - as I looked at some of the
   “email only” hosting plans I have for clients and a 10GB plan is $60 a
   year per mailbox)
   Definitely will be something to watch and see what happens with it.
   Thought I’d post to the list as possibly others may not have seen or
   been aware of this. :)
   Kind regards
   Daniel
   ---
   Daniel Kerr
   MacWizardry
   p : 0414 795 960
   e : 
   w : 
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   and as such should be taken accordingly, and may not be the views of
   MacWizardry. Any information provided does not offer or warrant any
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   any information in this email is to be disseminated, distributed or
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