Re: Update to 10.5.5
Hello Peter, In general, run Repair Permissions after installing or upgrading software. To be accurate, it doesn’t actually repair permissions. Rather, it simply resets permissions. Permissions stay the way they are set until someone or something comes along and sets them another way. Extract from 'Take Control of Maintaining your Mac': In Mac OS X, each file contains information specifying which users(or parts of the system) can read it, modify it, or execute it. This information is collectively known as permissions. If a file has incorrect permissions, it can cause applications to misbehave in various ways,such as crashing or failing to launch. Ordinarily, installers set the correct permissions for the files they install, and the permissions stay that way permanently. However, a poorly written installer can mess up permissions—even for files it did not install—and if you use Unix commands such as chown and chmod, you can accidentally set files’ permissions incorrectly. These sorts of problems occur infrequently, but they do occur. The Repair Permissions feature looks for certain software installed using Apple’s installer, which leaves behind files called receipts that list the locations and initial permissions of all the files in a given package. Repair Permissions compares the current permissions to those listed in the receipts and, if it finds any differences, changes the files back. The command ignores software installed in other ways (using a different installer or drag-and-drop installation, for instance) and knows nothing about legitimate permission changes you may have made deliberately. Cheers, Ronni Cheers Ronnie, Thanks for that ... I will make sure that I do that after this next update. Have I got this right, Go to utilities, select Macintosh HD, click Repair Dick Permissions regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to 10.5.5
On 16/09/2008, at 10:24 PM, Peter Fowler wrote: Hello Peter, In general, run Repair Permissions after installing or upgrading software. To be accurate, it doesn’t actually repair permissions. Rather, it simply resets permissions. Permissions stay the way they are set until someone or something comes along and sets them another way. Extract from 'Take Control of Maintaining your Mac': In Mac OS X, each file contains information specifying which users(or parts of the system) can read it, modify it, or execute it. This information is collectively known as permissions. If a file has incorrect permissions, it can cause applications to misbehave in various ways,such as crashing or failing to launch. Ordinarily, installers set the correct permissions for the files they install, and the permissions stay that way permanently. However, a poorly written installer can mess up permissions—even for files it did not install—and if you use Unix commands such as chown and chmod, you can accidentally set files’ permissions incorrectly. These sorts of problems occur infrequently, but they do occur. The Repair Permissions feature looks for certain software installed using Apple’s installer, which leaves behind files called receipts that list the locations and initial permissions of all the files in a given package. Repair Permissions compares the current permissions to those listed in the receipts and, if it finds any differences, changes the files back. The command ignores software installed in other ways (using a different installer or drag-and-drop installation, for instance) and knows nothing about legitimate permission changes you may have made deliberately. Cheers, Ronni Cheers Ronnie, Thanks for that ... I will make sure that I do that after this next update. Have I got this right, Go to Applications - utilities - Disk Utility and start it , when it has found the hard drives select Macintosh HD,clickRepair Disk Permissions regards Peter -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to 10.5.5
On 16/09/2008, at 6:48 PM, Mervyn Giuliana Bond wrote: I have completed an update to 10.5.5. on an intel iMac. This was followed by running Disk Utility and repair permissions. The permissions report read as follows: Repairing permissions for Macintosh HD Reading permissions database. Reading the permissions database can take several minutes. Permissions differ on System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.usbmuxd.plist, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rwxr-xr-x . Warning: SUID file System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/OwnerGroupTool has been modified and will not be repaired. Warning: SUID file usr/bin/lppasswd has been modified and will not be repaired. Group differs on private/etc/cups, should be 0, group is 26. Permissions differ on private/var/spool/cups/cache/rss, should be drwxr-xr-x , they are drwxrwxr-x . Permissions repair complete Should I be concerned about the two statements commencing with the word Warning? Hello Merv, These errors can be safely ignored. See this kb article: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448 Nothing is wrong with your system. Apple has changed (again) the way Disk Utility behaves. It seems to go through phases: tells us things we don't need to know, and can't do anything about, gets fixed, then gets all chatty again. It's in an excessively chatty phase with Leopard. You could download the Combo update and run that over the top, it normally gets rid of these SUID warnings. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx1055comboupdate.html Cheers, Ronni Ronni I did the combo update as you suggested and then ran Disk Utility. This time the report read Repairing permissions for Macintosh HD Reading permissions database. Reading the permissions database can take several minutes. Group differs on private/etc/cups, should be 0, group is 26. Permissions repair complete Thank you for your advice. Truly appreciated. Merv -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Science teaches that we must see in order to believe, but we must also believe in order to see. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to 10.5.5
Ronda Brown wrote: On 16/09/2008, at 7:37 PM, Peter Fowler wrote: Hi all This may sound like a dumb question, but I am new to this game, is it normal to run repair permissions after a software update, and why? regards Peter Hello Peter, In general, run Repair Permissions after installing or upgrading software. To be accurate, it doesn't actually repair permissions. Rather, it simply resets permissions. Permissions stay the way they are set until someone or something comes along and sets them another way. [...deletia...] IMHO (and that of others) if repair permissions were required after the update, Apple's installer would do it anyway... http://www.tuaw.com/2008/02/25/new-ebook-explains-leopards-permissions/ Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update to 10.5.5
Shay Telfer wrote: IMHO (and that of others) if repair permissions were required after the update, Apple's installer would do it anyway... http://www.tuaw.com/2008/02/25/new-ebook-explains-leopards-permissions/ Have fun, Shay I had the impression that I should repair permissions, back up, perform rites with chickens etc *before* I upgrade. Happy to be corrected, it's just that I've hardly ever bothered, or been required, before or after so I'm unsure of the right way to go. Also, I'd be interested to know if anyone has comments one way or the other on using Combo Updates. People often see these as a better way to go. As Rove would say; discuss... :-p Cheers Paul -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
