Re: Sharing Drives via SMB(odd footnote)

[Paul Kitchener]

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wamug@wamug.org.au, 
Subject: Re: Sharing Drives via SMB
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 07:14:03 +0800

>Hi there

>> I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' 
>directory
>> with an XP box.
>
>I've done it with 10.2.8 and Win XP home edition.  Things to check 
>for:
>- Both machines must be on the same subnet mask.  We manually assign 
>an 
>IP address to each machine, like 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2, etc.
>- Both machines must have the same "workgroup name".  The default 
>for 
>OSX is "WORKGROUP".  It's easier to change the XP workgroup, than to 
>change the OSX one.
>It can be done, we used "Sharepoints" to change 
>the workgroup on the Mac.

We use: Applications>Utilities>Directory
Access>SMB>Configure>Workgroup

>- You must mark the directory on the XP box as shared.
>- You must use the username and password on the XP box when 
>connecting 
>from the Mac.

Mac to pc access isnt an issue, any share works.
The other direction was the issue.
Sharepoint did indeed sort this issue out, however...

At the time I was ready to 'map a network drive' on the pc the mac
was actually in os9 with dave 2.5 running.
Being lazy and avoiding a reboot I thought to myself that the mapping
( \\g3\audio ) would work regardless of which os the mac was in.

As dave is already sharing this directory I went ahead and mapped it.
No probs, up she came but with a twist.

When I looked at the Y 'drive' in 'My (Bill's) Computer' it was
listed as:
audio on 'Samba 2.2.3(build 26)(G3)'(Y:)

Not too unusual if osx was up but it wasnt, it was 0s9 using dave. 
Not too unusual, possibly, if this drive was previously mapped to
'that' location but it NEVER had been.

The mapping does work to either macOS, using '\\server\share' sees to
that, the suprise was seeing evidence of samba while os9 was running.

I can only imagine it is that ethereal entity running on the pc
called 'MS Browse' which keeps tabs on network entities but is very
sluggish to refresh itself and will often list entities long gone
from the network.
However I draw your attention to the fact that this was the FIRST
time this drive has been accessed by the pc EVER!

Freaky!

Early in the piece (some years ago) my girlfriend called what I do
'Netwonking'.
How right she has been!

Cheers all
Paul and (what sometimes feels like) his Amazing Freak Show

Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[Paul Mulroney]

Hi there
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 05:04  AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:


I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' directory
with an XP box.

I (almost) desperately need to share my second drive containing 22g of
audio.

Via Appletalk all directories are shared easily, can anyone possibly
recommend an appletalk client for XP?

Can anyone say wether they believe this is possible or not? At least
put me out of my misery and say it CANNOT be done;o)


I've done it with 10.2.8 and Win XP home edition.  Things to check for:
- Both machines must be on the same subnet mask.  We manually assign an 
IP address to each machine, like 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2, etc.
- Both machines must have the same "workgroup name".  The default for 
OSX is "WORKGROUP".  It's easier to change the XP workgroup, than to 
change the OSX one.  It can be done, we used "Sharepoints" to change 
the workgroup on the Mac.

- You must mark the directory on the XP box as shared.
- You must use the username and password on the XP box when connecting 
from the Mac.


If you really want an Appletalk client for the PC, try PCMacLan 
connect.  I haven't seen it recently, but I downloaded a demo a while 
ago.  It's not pretty, but it works.


Hope this helps,
Regards,
Paul.
--
Paul W. Mulroney
Logical Developments

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www.logicaldevelopments.com.au  BENTLEY  WA  6102
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Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[Paul Kitchener]

>Geoff Richards wrote:
>> if u haven't got the time to download sharepoints consider writing 
>your 
>> own samba config file.
>
>It's not hard, and the documentation is good enough. Simply adding 
>shares is rather trivial, but don't mess with the authentication 
>config 
>etc unless you know how it'll affect the integration of Samba with 
>the 
>rest of OSX.
>
>> windoze ppl will think u are really l33t.
>
>... but not if you talk like that ;-)
>
>> [mp3]
>>   path = /Volumes/Media/mp3/
>>   public = yes
>
>I generally prefer to specify 'writeable = no' unless it needs to be 
>otherwise, too. The 'guest only' and 'map to guest' parameters are 
>useful too.
>
>If Apple aren't total idiots, you should be able to run "man 
>smb.conf" 
>from a terminal and get the documentation on the config file. I 
>don't 
>have an OSX box to hand so I can't check.
>
>Craig Ringer
>

The last thing I want to tell windoze folk is that it was this
difficult ;)

Sharepoints has done the trick nicely so I think I'll just stick to
using GUIs ( out of principal ;)

Thanks very much to all who strained a brain

Paul

Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[Craig Ringer]

Geoff Richards wrote:
if u haven't got the time to download sharepoints consider writing your 
own samba config file.


It's not hard, and the documentation is good enough. Simply adding 
shares is rather trivial, but don't mess with the authentication config 
etc unless you know how it'll affect the integration of Samba with the 
rest of OSX.



windoze ppl will think u are really l33t.


... but not if you talk like that ;-)


[mp3]
  path = /Volumes/Media/mp3/
  public = yes


I generally prefer to specify 'writeable = no' unless it needs to be 
otherwise, too. The 'guest only' and 'map to guest' parameters are 
useful too.


If Apple aren't total idiots, you should be able to run "man smb.conf" 
from a terminal and get the documentation on the config file. I don't 
have an OSX box to hand so I can't check.


Craig Ringer

Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[Geoff Richards]

if u haven't got the time to download sharepoints consider writing your 
own samba config file.

windoze ppl will think u are really l33t.

AL15:~ geo79au$ sudo vi /etc/smb.conf
Password:

[global]
 client code page = 437
 coding system = utf8
 guest account = unknown
 encrypt passwords = yes
 oplocks = no
 level2oplocks = no

[homes]
  comment = User Home Directories
  browseable = no
  read only = no
  create mode = 0750

[public]
  path = /Volumes/backup/public
  public = yes
  writable = yes

[share]
comment = the share
path = /share
guest ok = yes
writeable = yes
browseable = yes
create mode = 0666
directory mask = 0777

[mp3]
  path = /Volumes/Media/mp3/
  public = yes

;[hqgitunz]
;path = /Users/hqguest/Music/
;public = yes

;[printers]
;   comment = All Printers
;   browseable = no
;   printable = yes
;   public = no
;   writable = no
;   create mode = 0700





Hi all

I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' directory 
with an XP box.


I (almost) desperately need to share my second drive containing 22g of 
audio.


Via Appletalk all directories are shared easily, can anyone possibly 
recommend an appletalk client for XP?


Can anyone say wether they believe this is possible or not? At least 
put me out of my misery and say it CANNOT be done;o)


Cheers
Paul

Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[logrythm]

On 19/01/2004, at 1:11 PM, Steve Woods wrote:

On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 11:18  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' directory 
with an XP box.


I (almost) desperately need to share my second drive containing 22g 
of audio.


Via Appletalk all directories are shared easily, can anyone possibly 
recommend an appletalk client for XP?


Can anyone say wether they believe this is possible or not? At least 
put me out of my misery and say it CANNOT be done;o)


A nice little "donation-ware" utility "Sharepoints" might be the 
easiest option - works for creating both afp and smb shares:




HTH

Steve



Oh thankyou, thankyou, kissy kissy.

...and there they were, all my babies :o)

'Sharepoints' must be just making OSX share the directory ( 
/Volumes/Audio ), if so why wasnt I able to? Sheesh.


WAMUG is and has been from day one, my No1 internet resource.

Thanks folk.

Paul
(wanders off grinning dumbly)

Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[logrythm]

Hi,

which operating system are you using? If it is OS 10 then it may be 
possible otherwise I don't have any idea how to do it.


Kind Regards
Stuart Elvish
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 11:18  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



Hi all

I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' directory 
with an XP box.


I (almost) desperately need to share my second drive containing 22g 
of audio.


Via Appletalk all directories are shared easily, can anyone possibly 
recommend an appletalk client for XP?


Can anyone say wether they believe this is possible or not? At least 
put me out of my misery and say it CANNOT be done;o)


Cheers
Paul




OOPS!

Sorry, Im using OSX 10.3.2 Vs Win XP SP1.

OSX viewing XP: Fine, all shares available.

XP viewing OSX: ADMIN Home directory alone available.

Im using the login details of the only account holder in OSX: ADMIN.
This is also the only account holder in XP.
As Im always logged into both machines as ADMIN I'm not prompted for 
authentication to access either from either.


It really *feels* like a limitation of SMB, I hope 3rd party isnt the 
only way.


Cheers
Paul

Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[Geoffrey Stormzand]

On Jan 18, 2004, at 7:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all

I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' directory 
with an XP box.


I (almost) desperately need to share my second drive containing 22g of 
audio.


Via Appletalk all directories are shared easily, can anyone possibly 
recommend an appletalk client for XP?


Can anyone say wether they believe this is possible or not? At least 
put me out of my misery and say it CANNOT be done;o)


Cheers
Paul



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I you are logging as as a standard user, your home directory is the 
only thing you will see.  If you use an admin login, then you should 
see your other drive.


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Las Vegas, NV USA

Re: Sharing Drives via SMB

[Steve Woods]

On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 11:18  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' directory 
with an XP box.


I (almost) desperately need to share my second drive containing 22g of 
audio.


Via Appletalk all directories are shared easily, can anyone possibly 
recommend an appletalk client for XP?


Can anyone say wether they believe this is possible or not? At least 
put me out of my misery and say it CANNOT be done;o)


A nice little "donation-ware" utility "Sharepoints" might be the 
easiest option - works for creating both afp and smb shares:




HTH

Steve

Sharing Drives via SMB

[logrythm]

Hi all

I still havent had any luck sharing anything but my 'Home' directory 
with an XP box.


I (almost) desperately need to share my second drive containing 22g of 
audio.


Via Appletalk all directories are shared easily, can anyone possibly 
recommend an appletalk client for XP?


Can anyone say wether they believe this is possible or not? At least 
put me out of my misery and say it CANNOT be done;o)


Cheers
Paul



There really is a Dog.