Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Hey all, I realise that it's not customary to respond to one's own queries, but I think this will be relevant to many WAMUG users: My Wireless ADSL Modem Gateway is in fact an ADSL modem (according to Netgear's Tech Support person it is capable of a maximum speed of 2Mb/s) with ethernet router and WAP (802.11b). The tech support people at Netgear and iinet expressed reservations about using this set up with a new broadband2 plan, they indicated it may be incompatible and would definitely under-perform. Despite their vague foreboding comments I decided to upgrade my plan and have consistently achieved speeds well in excess of 3Mb/s when accessing international material (this is over the 802.11b network) and downloaded a 461MB file from iinet's ftp at an average of 790KB/s (this was done through the ethernet network). It seems the only limit to my download speeds are those artificially imposed by iinet's software (ensuring I don't get above the 8Mb/s). I live about 2km my local phone exchange.
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 13:08 +0800, Christof S. wrote: Hey all, I realise that it's not customary to respond to one's own queries, but I think this will be relevant to many WAMUG users: My Wireless ADSL Modem Gateway is in fact an ADSL modem (according to Netgear's Tech Support person it is capable of a maximum speed of 2Mb/s) That doesn't make much sense ... I wouldn't be surprised if the netgear support person just got it wrong. It should be capped at _either_ 1.5Mbit (G.lite support only) or 8Mbit (G.DMT) but I can't really understand how it could be limited to 2Mbit except by something like a CPU so slow it could only route 2Mbit/s. Of course, I'm certainly no expert with this stuff. Given that for the last 6 weeks WestNet have been having a hard time keeping the DSL service from going down several times a day, I'm finding those new iiNet services are looking more and more attractive every day... -- Craig Ringer
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
I'm on iiNets broadband 2, my connection is approximately 4mb - I get downloads of 430kb/s regularly. I'm about 2km from the exchange. The largest quicktime movie trailers come down faster than real time. And all this for $39.95 a month :-) Karl On 02/03/2005, at 3:22 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Oh what great excitement ... 8000k Adsl ?? that's 8MB just about enough to run Video . so they say ? I would suggest there are a lot of issues to be resolved before this performs like we would like it to . The chances of getting a copper circuit that would handle that speed are small if they exist at all . ** *** IMPORTANT INFORMATION *** This correspondence is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information or both. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this correspondence in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or rely on any part of this correspondence if you are not the intended recipient. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the opinions of Apple Computer Australia Pty Ltd. Neither the sender nor Apple Computer Australia warrants that any communication via the Internet is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Information is distributed without warranties of any kind. **
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Mind you, that is only from the Akamai server at iiNet or other services located at iinet. Outside of that, we have to wait for the rest of the world to catch up ;-) Granted, it makes Software Update run veeerrryyy quickly! I recently did the 10.3.8 combo update - 100Mb in less than 5 minutes :-) Has anyone tried out video iChat with a local iiNet user yet? Seeya Rod! On 3/3/05 7:56 AM, Karl Videmanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on iiNets broadband 2, my connection is approximately 4mb - I get downloads of 430kb/s regularly. I'm about 2km from the exchange. The largest quicktime movie trailers come down faster than real time. And all this for $39.95 a month :-) Karl On 02/03/2005, at 3:22 PM, Robert Howells wrote: Oh what great excitement ... 8000k Adsl ?? that's 8MB just about enough to run Video . so they say ? I would suggest there are a lot of issues to be resolved before this performs like we would like it to . The chances of getting a copper circuit that would handle that speed are small if they exist at all .
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Christof On 1 Mar 2005, at 11:08pm, Christof S. wrote: Hi all, I've been unable to find out whether my old Netgear DG824M Wireless ADSL Modem Gateway will support the new 8Mb iinet broadband2 plans. If it will support the new protocol, will the modem function at 1.5Mb? I would appreciate any light shed on this topic. I've been doing some research for modem.routers that will support coming adsl2 and 2+ I'm not sure if this is of any help but here goes anyway. Here's a link for your device. I believe the 824M is not upgradeable I but the DG834 (v2) is. http://www.ozcableguy.com/netgear1.html#dg824m and http://www.ozcableguy.com/routers.html You may already have looked here http://www.netgear.com.au/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=165view= There is a downloadable .pdf of specs there too. These are interesting too: http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2004/q2/netgear-dg834.asp http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=303976p=-1 Here are 4 that are compatible, as posted to this list several days ago. I'm going to try the Billion: ADSL, ADSL2 and ADSL2+ (Incl) Compatible Modem/Routers Billion 74022 yr warranty ADSL speed 8mbps to 30 with ADSL2+ $190-250 Netgear DG834 (v2) 1 yr warranty don't know speeds$130 - $190 DLink 504T May not be here yet but is ADSL2 and 2+ compatible 8mbps with adsl other unknown Zyxel Prestige 660H ADSL2 speed 12, ADSL2+ speed 24 Other Netcomm NB 5 looks good but is only usb and single ethernet. Perhaps others are on their way. Hope that is of use. regards Reg
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility. You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of your phone line. The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line may not be able to support speeds that high. I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should be relatively high. I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is going to have any benefit to me. Ruben A. Franke Christof On 1 Mar 2005, at 11:08pm, Christof S. wrote: Hi all, I've been unable to find out whether my old Netgear DG824M Wireless ADSL Modem Gateway will support the new 8Mb iinet broadband2 plans. If it will support the new protocol, will the modem function at 1.5Mb? I would appreciate any light shed on this topic. I've been doing some research for modem.routers that will support coming adsl2 and 2+ I'm not sure if this is of any help but here goes anyway. Here's a link for your device. I believe the 824M is not upgradeable I but the DG834 (v2) is. http://www.ozcableguy.com/netgear1.html#dg824m and http://www.ozcableguy.com/routers.html You may already have looked here http://www.netgear.com.au/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=165view= There is a downloadable .pdf of specs there too. These are interesting too: http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2004/q2/netgear-dg834.asp http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=303976p=-1 Here are 4 that are compatible, as posted to this list several days ago. I'm going to try the Billion: ADSL, ADSL2 and ADSL2+ (Incl) Compatible Modem/Routers Billion 7402 2 yr warranty ADSL speed 8mbps to 30 with ADSL2+ $190-250 Netgear DG834 (v2) 1 yr warranty don't know speeds$130 - $190 DLink 504T May not be here yet but is ADSL2 and 2+ compatible 8mbps with adsl other unknown Zyxel Prestige 660H ADSL2 speed 12, ADSL2+ speed 24 Other Netcomm NB 5 looks good but is only usb and single ethernet. Perhaps others are on their way. Hope that is of use. regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Hi Ruben On 2 Mar 2005, at 10:44am, Dark Servant wrote: Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility. You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of your phone line. The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line may not be able to support speeds that high. I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should be relatively high. I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is going to have any benefit to me. I'd hate to imagine what I'd get up here in Mt Tarcoola. At one stage I could only get 32k on a 56k connection with a v90 modem. Seems ants are rife here and had eaten through the lines. adsl2 ants maybe would be tougher? I guess by the time adsl2+ is available the modem will be obsolete but as this is the first time on broadband, and with adsl2 imminent in my understanding, I'd rather get the latest equipment and know it wasn't the weakest link. Regards Reg
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Yeah that's a good point Ruben Hi Ruben On 2 Mar 2005, at 10:44am, Dark Servant wrote: Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility. You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of your phone line. The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line may not be able to support speeds that high. I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should be relatively high. I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is going to have any benefit to me. I'd hate to imagine what I'd get up here in Mt Tarcoola. At one stage I could only get 32k on a 56k connection with a v90 modem. Seems ants are rife here and had eaten through the lines. adsl2 ants maybe would be tougher? I guess by the time adsl2+ is available the modem will be obsolete but as this is the first time on broadband, and with adsl2 imminent in my understanding, I'd rather get the latest equipment and know it wasn't the weakest link. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Oh what great excitement ... 8000k Adsl ?? that's 8MB just about enough to run Video . so they say ? I would suggest there are a lot of issues to be resolved before this performs like we would like it to . The chances of getting a copper circuit that would handle that speed are small if they exist at all . If it's to work a whole new approach will need to be taken ... Optic fibre perhaps . but why should Telstra or anybody else rush out and instal this while the ACCC are price fixing the returns . Already we see that private enterprise does not want to expend much on any Dslams at exchanges . it's much less risky to just let Telstra be the bunny and then complain like mad as though they are charging too much. So by the time this gets OFF THE GROUND a whole new lot of Modems and connect boxes are likely to be on the market with a lot of new technolgy . Unless you have to change , or have money burning a hole in your pocket I suggest you wait for at least 12 months and 2 years would be an even better time line. My 2 c Bob On 02/03/2005, at 1:01 PM, Dark Servant wrote: Yeah that's a good point Ruben Hi Ruben On 2 Mar 2005, at 10:44am, Dark Servant wrote: Personally I wouldn't worry about ADSL2+ compatibility. You have to remember that these speeds are limited by the ability of your phone line. The ISP can offer the speeds but your phone line may not be able to support speeds that high. I know I'm very close to the exchange in my area so my speeds should be relatively high. I'm getting 2000k on iinet's 8000k plan so there is no way ADSL2+ is going to have any benefit to me. I'd hate to imagine what I'd get up here in Mt Tarcoola. At one stage I could only get 32k on a 56k connection with a v90 modem. Seems ants are rife here and had eaten through the lines. adsl2 ants maybe would be tougher? I guess by the time adsl2+ is available the modem will be obsolete but as this is the first time on broadband, and with adsl2 imminent in my understanding, I'd rather get the latest equipment and know it wasn't the weakest link. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Oh what great excitement ... 8000k Adsl ?? that's 8MB just about enough to run Video . so they say ? I would suggest there are a lot of issues to be resolved before this performs like we would like it to . The chances of getting a copper circuit that would handle that speed are small if they exist at all . If it's to work a whole new approach will need to be taken ... Optic fibre perhaps . but why should Telstra or anybody else rush out and instal this while the ACCC are price fixing the returns . Well, you could hope that the government sells off what's left of Telstra but keeps the copper and exchanges and then charges all the Telcos to run services over the government infrastructure. It seems to work for roads... As to whether we'll see that happen... Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Will new 8Mb iinet plans work with my netgear?
Hi all, I've been unable to find out whether my old Netgear DG824M Wireless ADSL Modem Gateway will support the new 8Mb iinet broadband2 plans. If it will support the new protocol, will the modem function at 1.5Mb? I would appreciate any light shed on this topic. Regards, Christof S.
