Re: message from Discus.
Hi Everyone, Bravo Ronni! That has been my experience during the many years of using Apple's operating software. I can only say that Apple's OS is not 100% perfect, but is very close to it. I too have not had any major problems with any of the updates or major upgrades of the OS, and I am not a 'geek' or 'connaisseur' in any sense of the words. I agree that there must be a good planning before adopting a major upgrade. With the price of hard drives being very reasonable these days, I have always copied my working 'old' OS using SuperDuper on to a firewire drive so that I can keep working 'just in case'. However I have never encountered the 'just in case' situation yet, and still have my very first OS X sitting on a drive but not used for years now! Regards to all, Philippe C. 2009/9/21 Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com Hi Kevin, Yes, I received this negative email from Discus. I don't agree with their assessment of Snow Leopard. The majority of problems people are having are caused by not doing the preparation before upgrading their System, and other Vendor's software, add-ons, plugins , etc. It is not up to Apple to make sure non-apple software is compatible with Snow Leopard it is up to the Vendor. Most major software companies were very quick to release Snow Leopard compatible version of their software. This comment: The trusting people who recently purchased Apple's Snow Leopard and immediately installed it were greeted with hundreds of terrible bugs. It was reckless of Apple not to test their system more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers. Apple not to test their system more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers what a load of rubbish that is! Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard is designed to protect your Mac from certain incompatible software that can quit unexpectedly or cause other issues in Mac OS X v10.6. When you install Snow Leopard or migrate to Snow Leopard, known-incompatible software is moved to a folder named Incompatible Software on your hard drive. Snow Leopard also prevents known-incompatible software from opening. If you see an Incompatible software message, contact the software's vendor or visit their website for a later, compatible version. Apple certainly with Snow Leopard, have protected people from using incompatible software. Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: message from Discus.
On 21/09/2009, at 7:55 AM, KEVIN Lock wrote: As a registered user of Discus, I received a mailout which addressed problems with Discus and operating systems. Interesting? The following is the message received Wow! Funny that so much other software seems to run just fine... Switch to Disc Label instead -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: message from Discus.
On 22/09/2009, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 21/09/2009, at 7:55 AM, KEVIN Lock wrote: As a registered user of Discus, I received a mailout which addressed problems with Discus and operating systems. Interesting? The following is the message received Wow! Funny that so much other software seems to run just fine... Switch to Disc Label instead I don't know why Discus felt they had to write such a negative email post it to all Discus users, as Discus v4.24 is working just the same on my Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.1 as it did in Leopard OS X 10.5.8? Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
message from Discus.
As a registered user of Discus, I received a mailout which addressed problems with Discus and operating systems. Interesting? The following is the message received At 1:18 AM + 20/9/09, discus world users wrote: Discus User Alert Dear registered Discus user, we have seen a flurry of tech support inquiries in recent weeks about compatibility with Macintosh OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and also Windows users calling about quicktime issues if they install iTunes 9, as well as information about the upcoming Windows 7 system. Rest assured that whenever a major system change occurs, we will make any necessary changes to Discus immediately and post a new version on our website at www.magicmouse.com under the Download Updates section. The latest Discus version is 4.24. To our knowledge Discus 4 appears to be running fine. We are seeing huge numbers of problems with Snow Leopard in general however as Apple really bungled their recent release. Apple had to rush out a service pack (6.1) to prevent a riot, and many defects remain. If your livelihood depends on smooth functioning of your Macintosh, please avoid installing Snow Leopard until 6.2 is released. Snow 6.0 almost completely ruined printing. If you have already installed Snow, be sure to download the latest versions of printer drivers, many companies like Epson updated their drivers after Snow shipped, and some like DYMO have not yet released Snow drivers. We are old hands at computers, going back to the punch card era, and can state with authority that if you value your time and would like to avoid unnecessary frustration in your life, we recommend that you NOT UPGRADE TO ANY NEW OPERATING SYSTEM UNTIL SIX MONTHS HAVE PASSED. The trusting people who recently purchased Apple's Snow Leopard and immediately installed it were greeted with hundreds of terrible bugs. It was reckless of Apple not to test their system more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers. When you immediately upgrade to a major new operating system version you are basically volunteering to be an unpaid tester for the supplier. Unlike bran muffins fresh operating system versions are not better - they are more like wine which benefits from age. Operating systems are among the most complex projects ever attempted with hundreds if not thousands of man years of work inside, and every major system shipping today went out the door with tens of thousands of known defects. Both Apple and Microsoft have a bug tracking system and the managers at Apple and Microsoft know full well that their products are riddled with defects but market forces dictate that they ship on a fixed calendar schedule regardless of the consequences to the customer, and if they waited until the product was flawless it would never ship at all. Approximately 35% of the laptops containing Vista were downgraded to XP. And this is after an entire year of vista on the street. There are two places you can be in the computer world - the bleeding edge and the trailing edge, and we recommend to all our customers to buy proven hardware technologies that are least two years old and try to stay behind in operating systems until you start to hit problems because you are too far behind. When you stay behind a bit you enjoy low prices, complete reliability, and lots of technical help. Regards, The Discus Support Team Kevin -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: message from Discus.
Hi Kevin, Yes, I received this negative email from Discus. I don't agree with their assessment of Snow Leopard. The majority of problems people are having are caused by not doing the preparation before upgrading their System, and other Vendor's software, add-ons, plugins , etc. It is not up to Apple to make sure non-apple software is compatible with Snow Leopard it is up to the Vendor. Most major software companies were very quick to release Snow Leopard compatible version of their software. This comment: The trusting people who recently purchased Apple's Snow Leopard and immediately installed it were greeted with hundreds of terrible bugs. It was reckless of Apple not to test their system more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers. Apple not to test their system more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers what a load of rubbish that is! Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard is designed to protect your Mac from certain incompatible software that can quit unexpectedly or cause other issues in Mac OS X v10.6. When you install Snow Leopard or migrate to Snow Leopard, known- incompatible software is moved to a folder named Incompatible Software on your hard drive. Snow Leopard also prevents known-incompatible software from opening. If you see an Incompatible software message, contact the software's vendor or visit their website for a later, compatible version. Apple certainly with Snow Leopard, have protected people from using incompatible software. Cheers, Ronni On 21/09/2009, at 7:55 AM, KEVIN Lock wrote: As a registered user of Discus, I received a mailout which addressed problems with Discus and operating systems. Interesting? The following is the message received At 1:18 AM + 20/9/09, discus world users wrote: Discus User Alert Dear registered Discus user, we have seen a flurry of tech support inquiries in recent weeks about compatibility with Macintosh OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and also Windows users calling about quicktime issues if they install iTunes 9, as well as information about the upcoming Windows 7 system. Rest assured that whenever a major system change occurs, we will make any necessary changes to Discus immediately and post a new version on our website at www.magicmouse.com under the Download Updates section. The latest Discus version is 4.24. To our knowledge Discus 4 appears to be running fine. We are seeing huge numbers of problems with Snow Leopard in general however as Apple really bungled their recent release. Apple had to rush out a service pack (6.1) to prevent a riot, and many defects remain. If your livelihood depends on smooth functioning of your Macintosh, please avoid installing Snow Leopard until 6.2 is released. Snow 6.0 almost completely ruined printing. If you have already installed Snow, be sure to download the latest versions of printer drivers, many companies like Epson updated their drivers after Snow shipped, and some like DYMO have not yet released Snow drivers. We are old hands at computers, going back to the punch card era, and can state with authority that if you value your time and would like to avoid unnecessary frustration in your life, we recommend that you NOT UPGRADE TO ANY NEW OPERATING SYSTEM UNTIL SIX MONTHS HAVE PASSED. The trusting people who recently purchased Apple's Snow Leopard and immediately installed it were greeted with hundreds of terrible bugs. It was reckless of Apple not to test their system more thoroughly before releasing it to millions of paying customers. When you immediately upgrade to a major new operating system version you are basically volunteering to be an unpaid tester for the supplier. Unlike bran muffins fresh operating system versions are not better - they are more like wine which benefits from age. Operating systems are among the most complex projects ever attempted with hundreds if not thousands of man years of work inside, and every major system shipping today went out the door with tens of thousands of known defects. Both Apple and Microsoft have a bug tracking system and the managers at Apple and Microsoft know full well that their products are riddled with defects but market forces dictate that they ship on a fixed calendar schedule regardless of the consequences to the customer, and if they waited until the product was flawless it would never ship at all. Approximately 35% of the laptops containing Vista were downgraded to XP. And this is after an entire year of vista on the street. There are two places you can be in the computer world - the bleeding edge and the trailing edge, and we recommend to all our customers to buy proven hardware technologies that are least two years old and try to stay behind in operating systems until you start to hit problems because you are too far behind. When you stay behind