Re: Testing.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Thank you.
Normally when sending out an e-mail I would also receive a copy, that hasn’t 
happened. 
I was asking for some input for something that I may have done whilst playing 
with a WiFi booster.
Tony

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> On 12 Dec 2019, at 10:43, FW  wrote:
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> Yes, received it
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>> On 12 Dec 2019, at 09:02 , Anthony (Tony) Francis  wrote:
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>> I sent a request out yesterday to fellow ‘Mugers’ with no reply. Is anyone 
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Yes, received it



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I sent a request out yesterday to fellow ‘Mugers’ with no reply. Is anyone 
receiving this Test?

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Re: Testing Download and Upload speeds.

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Eventually Stephen I WILL win.

Thank You
 On 20 Dec 2014, at 6:46 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Good Lord !
 What a trial for you !
 
 
 On 20 Dec 2014, at 6:16 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@mac.com 
 mailto:antne...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Thank you for your help Stephen, in tryijng to go on line to download “Speed 
 Test” I have had the message appear on my desktop, “ Adobe Flash” needs to 
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 the speed of the download. Ho Hum, back to the Server.
 
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Testing Download and Upload speeds.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Hi Guy’s
Can anyone recommend a decent Upload and Download speed Test for Satellite?? I 
used to have a company that I used, now I can’t find it and there are so many 
on line choices and they usually take me to another site ggg!!

Thank you

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Re: Testing Download and Upload speeds.

[Stephen Chape]

Hi Tony .. I use “speedtest.net


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 Hi Guy’s
 Can anyone recommend a decent Upload and Download speed Test for Satellite?? 
 I used to have a company that I used, now I can’t find it and there are so 
 many on line choices and they usually take me to another site ggg!!
 
 Thank you
 
 Kindest regards
 
 
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Re: Testing Download and Upload speeds.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Thank you Stephen, I’ll try it now.

Kind Regards

Tony
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 Hi Tony .. I use “speedtest.net http://speedtest.net/
 
 
 On 20 Dec 2014, at 4:48 pm, Anthony (Tony) Francis antne...@icloud.com 
 mailto:antne...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Guy’s
 Can anyone recommend a decent Upload and Download speed Test for Satellite?? 
 I used to have a company that I used, now I can’t find it and there are so 
 many on line choices and they usually take me to another site ggg!!
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: Testing Download and Upload speeds.

[Anthony (Tony) Francis]

Thank you for your help Stephen, in tryijng to go on line to download “Speed 
Test” I have had the message appear on my desktop, “ Adobe Flash” needs to be 
updated, ha, another problem, I can’t download the Adobe Flash because of the 
speed of the download. Ho Hum, back to the Server.

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Re: Testing Download and Upload speeds.

[Stephen Chape]

Good Lord !
What a trial for you !


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 Thank you for your help Stephen, in tryijng to go on line to download “Speed 
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Re: Just Testing, no need to reply.

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Re: battery testing

[Alan Smith]

Hi Walter

Good video, but I think the guy should be marketing his ceramic tiles.

I tested some new, middling and old AA and AAA batteries with a voltmeter and 
the bounce test on several surfaces.  Inconsistent results!

Cheers
Alan

On 17/09/2013, at 10:52 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 This time I won't type  the URL, I'll copy and paste instead,
 hopefully that will work ?
 
 Cheers,
 W.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p99l6ME
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 17/09/2013, at 8:28 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au wrote:
 
 
 On 17/09/2013, at 6:31 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Just replaced my bluetooth keyboard batteries.
 
 The method below actually works. Worth watching the 90 sec. clip. Pretty 
 cool.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p9916ME
 
 I get Video Unavailable. Perhaps you stumbled across a valuable secret. 
 One for the conspiracy theorists?...
 
 
 
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Re: battery testing

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On 17/09/2013, at 10:52 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 
 This time I won't type  the URL, I'll copy and paste instead,
 hopefully that will work ?
 
 Cheers,
 W.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p99l6ME
 
 


Yep, that worked. Thanks.   :-)

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Re: battery testing

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Walter  Alan,

Yes, this is a joke...not a way to test batteries ;-))

I like ColtPiggerton's comment: 
If you believe this, I have a salt lamp I'd like to sell you.

And Karl Ream's comment:
Lightbulbs can be tested like that too. Drop them from 6 feet onto a concrete 
floor. If it shatters, it's no good. If it bounces, it's good.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

On 17/09/2013, at 5:11 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Walter
 
 Good video, but I think the guy should be marketing his ceramic tiles.
 
 I tested some new, middling and old AA and AAA batteries with a voltmeter and 
 the bounce test on several surfaces.  Inconsistent results!
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 On 17/09/2013, at 10:52 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Peter,
 
 This time I won't type  the URL, I'll copy and paste instead,
 hopefully that will work ?
 
 Cheers,
 W.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p99l6ME
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 17/09/2013, at 8:28 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 
 On 17/09/2013, at 6:31 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Just replaced my bluetooth keyboard batteries.
 
 The method below actually works. Worth watching the 90 sec. clip. Pretty 
 cool.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p9916ME
 
 I get Video Unavailable. Perhaps you stumbled across a valuable secret. 
 One for the conspiracy theorists?...
 
 
 
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Re: battery testing

[Kevin Lock]

It works!It got people all over the world dropping batteries onto a 
tiled floor.

Kev





On 18/09/13 10:38 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 Hi Walter  Alan,

 Yes, this is a joke...not a way to test batteries ;-))

 I like ColtPiggerton's comment:
 If you believe this, I have a salt lamp I'd like to sell you.

 And Karl Ream's comment:
 Lightbulbs can be tested like that too. Drop them from 6 feet onto a 
 concrete floor. If it shatters, it's no good. If it bounces, it's good.

 Cheers,
 Ronni

 Sent from Ronni's iPad4

 On 17/09/2013, at 5:11 PM, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Walter

 Good video, but I think the guy should be marketing his ceramic tiles.

 I tested some new, middling and old AA and AAA batteries with a voltmeter 
 and the bounce test on several surfaces.  Inconsistent results!

 Cheers
 Alan

 On 17/09/2013, at 10:52 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Hi Peter,

 This time I won't type  the URL, I'll copy and paste instead,
 hopefully that will work ?

 Cheers,
 W.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p99l6ME





 On 17/09/2013, at 8:28 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:

 On 17/09/2013, at 6:31 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Good morning all,

 Just replaced my bluetooth keyboard batteries.

 The method below actually works. Worth watching the 90 sec. clip. Pretty 
 cool.

 Cheers,
 Walter

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p9916ME
 I get Video Unavailable. Perhaps you stumbled across a valuable secret. 
 One for the conspiracy theorists?...



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battery testing

[F.W. Hänel]

Good morning all,

Just replaced my bluetooth keyboard batteries.

The method below actually works. Worth watching the 90 sec. clip. Pretty cool.

Cheers,
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p9916ME
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Re: battery testing

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On 17/09/2013, at 6:31 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Good morning all,
 
 Just replaced my bluetooth keyboard batteries.
 
 The method below actually works. Worth watching the 90 sec. clip. Pretty cool.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p9916ME

I get Video Unavailable. Perhaps you stumbled across a valuable secret. One 
for the conspiracy theorists?...



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Re: battery testing

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Peter,

This time I won't type  the URL, I'll copy and paste instead,
hopefully that will work ?

Cheers,
W.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p99l6ME
 





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 On 17/09/2013, at 6:31 AM, F.W. Hänel whae...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Good morning all,
 
 Just replaced my bluetooth keyboard batteries.
 
 The method below actually works. Worth watching the 90 sec. clip. Pretty 
 cool.
 
 Cheers,
 Walter
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p9916ME
 
 I get Video Unavailable. Perhaps you stumbled across a valuable secret. One 
 for the conspiracy theorists?...
 
 
 
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Mac anti virus testing

[Alan Fenton]

Hello all.
This may be of interest.
From Alan.


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Re: Mac anti virus testing

[Ronda Brown]

Do You Need Mac Antivirus Software in 2013?
No!
http://tidbits.com/article/13476

Cheers,
Ronni
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 Hello all.
 This may be of interest.
 From Alan.
 
 
 http://www.reedcorner.net/mac-anti-virus-testing-01-2013/
 
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Re: Testing.

[antnette]

Hi Guy's, just Testing.

Tony

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testing

[Lynn Koh]

hi all 



am i not getting list emails or is today a really quiet day? 



the only list email i got today was my own email i sent this morning. 



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Re: testing

[Ronda Brown]

Quiet day Lynn :-)

Cheers,
Ronni


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 am i not getting list emails or is today a really quiet day? 
 
 
 
 the only list email i got today was my own email i sent this morning. 
 
 
 
 regards 
 
 lynn 

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Re: testing

[Carlo Margio]

No one here but we mice... :-)

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 Quiet day Lynn :-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 06/09/2012, at 1:06 PM, Lynn Koh lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:
 
 
 
 hi all 
 
 
 
 am i not getting list emails or is today a really quiet day? 
 
 
 
 the only list email i got today was my own email i sent this morning. 
 
 
 
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Re: testing

[Merv Bond]

I gotcha!
Merv

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Fwd: [Nolobe News] A great Interarchy deal, the year ahead, and beta testing

[Merv Bond]

Hi
If anyone has Interarchy 10 and is running 10.7 then please read on for 
information about a beta test.
I have Interarchy 10 but I am running 10.5 so of no help.
Merv

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Subject: [Nolobe News] A great Interarchy deal, the year ahead, and beta 
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Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:55:01 +1100
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Nolobe Newsletter
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RE: testing

[Crisp, Peter]

Jennifer, whatever you're testing, it seems to have been successful.

 

Regards.

 

Test recipient



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Re: Testing

[Severin Crisp]

Yes and enjoying a sunny afternoon
Severin Crisp

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FW: Is Wamug list offline? Testing

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Hi all just checking if the WAMUG list is down haven't received and emails

Bart

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Testing

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Testing
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Re: Daylight savings testing

[Derek Y-E]

Hi Warren and WAMUG folks.

The short answers to your questions:
1). Your clock didn't change back, because your daylight savings  
testing range was too small.
2). IMHO, Apple have decided to keep the naming of time zones simple,  
and uncomplicated. Hence, they have chosen to not change the time- 
zone name, during DS. (Just my opinion though).


The long answer (to answer 1)...

Firstly to clarify... My previous daylight-savings tests worked fine  
for me...  The clock automatically dialed back EXACTLY when it  
should. I was 100% happy with the results (as posted Feb 21, 2007).  
My test workstation was set for the 25th of March 2007, and I watched  
the clock automatically roll back. (I started my workstation with the  
time of 12.30am. It rolled itself back an hour, one second after the  
second 2:59.59am, to 2:00.00am. Which is 100% correct.) From my  
perspective, the Daylight Savings update is working PERFECTLY, and  
has been since I installed it.


Your most recent post suggests that you have also done a test 2  
hours before the daylight savings change over. Your testing methods  
may have differed from mine, but these are my conclusions from a  
couple of quick tests that I've successfully done with DST:


a). 10 seconds isn't enough time for the computer to register  
daylight savings changes. To be exact, 1 hour + few seconds IS  
enough... I'll explain this in a moment.
b). It is recommended to have the Date/Time Preference pane 'saved'  
and CLOSED during your tests. Otherwise, the computer may think that  
you are still adjusting the current time.
c). Run your daylight savings tests WITHOUT a network time server set  
on your machine. (Impossible to test with one set really).
d). The LATEST time that you can set your Mac to, to test the  
daylight savings update, is 1.59am, on March 25, 2007. Any later than  
that, and your computer will decide that your computer is NOT in  
daylight savings mode (further explanation below).


My understanding about the daylight savings update is this: it  
appears to have a safety or counting mechanism built into the  
system, since the end of daylight savings has two two o'clocks.  
Think about what happens on March 25th... At 2.00am WDST, it's the  
first two o'clock. At 1 second after 2:59.59am WDST, it's now the  
second two o'clock. But how will your Mac know, which 2:00 you're  
currently at? The first one? Or the second one?
(We're winding our clocks back, so we get an extra hour, hence we  
actually get to re-live the hour of 2am again).

--

To differentiate, there is probably a counter programmed into the  
updated time system... There will be logic programmed into the  
system. Something like:
If the current date is any date before March 25th, and the time is  
before 1:59.59am, then, add one to the counter, to indicate the  
presence of daylight savings, since this person is located in Perth,  
Western Australia.


OK, your Mac knows it's now in daylight savings time in Perth.

The next major event happens ON the day of the daylight savings  
change-over... 1 second after 1:59.59am WDST. The logic will go  
something like this:
Check if in daylight savings mode. Yep, I am (got that 1 in the  
DST counter). Check the time... Is it 1 second after 1:59.59am, on  
March 25, 2007? Yep. OK. I'm going to add '1' to a new counter called  
'first two o'clock'. And I'll let the time tick straight over to  
2:00.00am, WDST.


OK, your computer is in the first two o'clock hour range. Daylight  
savings is 1 hour away from ending. But all is still normal, and  
there is no clock-winding yet.


The next event happens at 1 second after 2:59.59am WDST. The logic  
will go something like this:
Check if in daylight savings mode. Yep. Check if one 'two o'clock'  
has already passed. Yep. Check time is 2:59.59am on March 25, 2007.  
Yep. OK, this is it folks... It's time to leave daylight savings.   
Set 'daylight savings finished counter' to '1', and reset the other  
counters. Oh, and set the time back an hour, to the 2nd 'two o'clock'.


And that's it. Your computer just wound it's clock back 1 hour, and  
is now living in it's 2nd two o'clock for the day.

--

So, if you set your computer 2.00am or 2.59am on the 25th of March  
2007, you're going to MISS some of those events, and daylight savings  
isn't going to tick over.

Instead, try your tests again. In particular double-check:
-Your menu bar clock as the seconds displayed (helps see when the  
change-over is going to happen)

-You are in the Perth WA time zone
-You have your network time server setting disabled
-Your time is before 1.59am, March 25, 2007. Any later, and your  
tests WILL fail.

-That you have saved and closed the Date/Time system preference.

Using these steps, I've watched daylight savings come and go, and  
change successfully again. Today I watched a workstation start at  
1.59am, as it ticked over to the first 2.00am, on March 25th. And  
then I watched the menu bar clock

Re: Daylight savings testing

[Warren Jones]

I think you've missed my point on this one Shay.
My point was: why didn't my clock roll back the second daylight  
saving should have finished (03:00 WDT 25 Mar)? And secondly, why  
does my time zone say WST instead of WDT?


Derek said that in his testing it too didn't roll back when it should  
but did within an hour.


I repeated my test and left it for quite a while ( 2h) and it still  
hadn't rolled back.


I'm aware of what you said about NTP (my sentence actually said the  
same thing as you) and I had made a very similar comment on this list  
to someone else previously.


cheers
woz

PS On further testing just now and using the date -u command to check  
for time differences from UTC, I see that If you set the clock to  
anything past 02:00 on 25 Mar, it assumes that DS has ended. So to do  
my test properly I assume I'd have to set the clock to 01:59, and  
wait 61 mins instead of setting it to 02:59 and waiting 1 minute. So  
I'll therefore conclude that the end of DS will work as it should.  
But it would be nice if Apple displayed WDT when it should instead of  
always WST.



On 01/03/2007, at 10:36 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:


Warren wrote:
Anyway, to check the end of the DS, I disabled NTP and set my  
clock to 25 Mar 2007 02:59:50 and was hoping that in 10 secs the  
time would be 02:00:00. Instead it just rolls over to 03:00:00.


I would have expected the DS zone changes to be independent of the  
NTP activation.


Comments?


The Network Time Protocol (NTP) simply synchronises the computers  
idea of what UTC (ie Greenwich Mean Time) is. Applying Timezone  
changes to UTC to work out what the local computer's time is is  
left to each individual computer's OS. Thus not being connected to  
NTP shouldn't make any difference for purposes of testing the  
daylight savings changeover.


http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1305.html
http://www.ntp.org/

Re: Daylight savings testing

[Mervyn Giuliana Bond]

Has the lack of roll-back got something to do with it only being 2 March 2007?
Merv

At 11:46 AM +0900 2/3/07, Warren Jones wrote:

I think you've missed my point on this one Shay.
My point was: why didn't my clock roll back the second daylight 
saving should have finished (03:00 WDT 25 Mar)? And secondly, why 
does my time zone say WST instead of WDT?


Derek said that in his testing it too didn't roll back when it 
should but did within an hour.


I repeated my test and left it for quite a while ( 2h) and it still 
hadn't rolled back.


I'm aware of what you said about NTP (my sentence actually said the 
same thing as you) and I had made a very similar comment on this 
list to someone else previously.


cheers
woz

PS On further testing just now and using the date -u command to 
check for time differences from UTC, I see that If you set the clock 
to anything past 02:00 on 25 Mar, it assumes that DS has ended. So 
to do my test properly I assume I'd have to set the clock to 01:59, 
and wait 61 mins instead of setting it to 02:59 and waiting 1 
minute. So I'll therefore conclude that the end of DS will work as 
it should. But it would be nice if Apple displayed WDT when it 
should instead of always WST.



On 01/03/2007, at 10:36 PM, Shay Telfer wrote:


Warren wrote:
Anyway, to check the end of the DS, I disabled NTP and set my 
clock to 25 Mar 2007 02:59:50 and was hoping that in 10 secs the 
time would be 02:00:00. Instead it just rolls over to 03:00:00.


I would have expected the DS zone changes to be independent of the 
NTP activation.


Comments?


The Network Time Protocol (NTP) simply synchronises the computers 
idea of what UTC (ie Greenwich Mean Time) is. Applying Timezone 
changes to UTC to work out what the local computer's time is is 
left to each individual computer's OS. Thus not being connected to 
NTP shouldn't make any difference for purposes of testing the 
daylight savings changeover.


http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1305.html
http://www.ntp.org/



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Re: Daylight savings testing

[Shay Telfer]

Warren wrote:
Anyway, to check the end of the DS, I disabled NTP and set my clock 
to 25 Mar 2007 02:59:50 and was hoping that in 10 secs the time 
would be 02:00:00. Instead it just rolls over to 03:00:00.


I would have expected the DS zone changes to be independent of the 
NTP activation.


Comments?


The Network Time Protocol (NTP) simply synchronises the computers 
idea of what UTC (ie Greenwich Mean Time) is. Applying Timezone 
changes to UTC to work out what the local computer's time is is left 
to each individual computer's OS. Thus not being connected to NTP 
shouldn't make any difference for purposes of testing the daylight 
savings changeover.


http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1305.html
http://www.ntp.org/

Have fun,
Shay
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Re: Daylight Savings testing - Give your Mac more time

[Derek Y-E]

Hi Warren and WAMUG Folks.

Your test is probably a little simple. Giving the computer only 10  
seconds worth of time in Daylight Savings may not be enough to  
trigger the event.

(DLS ends at 3.00am, 25/03/2007, and the clock should go back to 2.00am)

I set a workstation to 12.30am, 25/03/2007, and got it to announce  
(Date/Time Pref pane) the time every hour... At 2.00am it announced  
2am. An hour later (3.00am), it announced 2am again, and the clock  
was back at 2am. So, the DLS change worked.


An hour later, the time was announced as 3.00am for the first time...  
I.e. Working as expected also.


So, try your test again. This time though, give your Mac just a  
little longer to do the change-over.


Cheers,
Derek

On 20/02/2007, at 6:02 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:


From: Warren Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Daylight savings testing
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:12:49 +0800
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2)

Hi all
Has anyone done some proper testing of the new patch released last  
week?


After applying the patch, and clicking on Perth instead of Tokyo I
get the right time with the NTP server on (the time zone still shows
WST not WDT ???).

Anyway, to check the end of the DS, I disabled NTP and set my clock
to 25 Mar 2007 02:59:50 and was hoping that in 10 secs the time would
be 02:00:00. Instead it just rolls over to 03:00:00.

I would have expected the DS zone changes to be independent of the
NTP activation.

Comments?

Daylight savings testing

[Warren Jones]

Hi all
Has anyone done some proper testing of the new patch released last week?

After applying the patch, and clicking on Perth instead of Tokyo I  
get the right time with the NTP server on (the time zone still shows  
WST not WDT ???).


Anyway, to check the end of the DS, I disabled NTP and set my clock  
to 25 Mar 2007 02:59:50 and was hoping that in 10 secs the time would  
be 02:00:00. Instead it just rolls over to 03:00:00.


I would have expected the DS zone changes to be independent of the  
NTP activation.


Comments?

[OT] Testing

[Matthew Healey]

Just testing a list function...

- Matt

Re: testing - Thanks Now Tested

[bill cole]

thanks Robert. ( I did reply to previous sender, hopefully correctly ! )

On 15/02/2005, at 10:41 PM, Robert Howells wrote:


as requested

On 15/02/2005, at 10:24 PM, bill cole wrote:

Hi, I've been trying to send an email to the mailing list, but kept 
getting the  Mailer-Daemon unable to deliver because of  multipart 
/ alternative etc  I changed my Composing prefs from Rich to Plain 
text, and it came back to me, does this mean it was received by the 
list ?

Thanks for your help
Bill

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The simplest question is difficult when you don't know

testing - request confirmation

[bill cole]

Hi, I've been trying to send an email to the mailing list, but kept 
getting the  Mailer-Daemon unable to deliver because of  multipart / 
alternative etc  I changed my Composing prefs from Rich to Plain text, 
and it came back to me, does this mean it was received by the list ?

Thanks for your help
Bill

Remember,
The hardest question is simple when you know the answer
The simplest question is difficult when you don't know

Re: testing - request confirmation

[bill cole]

Thanks Peter
Bill

Remember,
The hardest question is simple when you know the answer
The simplest question is difficult when you don't know

Testing Akamai

[Matthew Healey]

Hi All,

I need a bit of a favor from some of you.

Could those of you who are with the following ISP's please do a 
traceroute to a4.g.akamai.net.


Westnet ADSL
iiNet ADSL
Telstra Bigpond ADSL (Not Cable)
Optus ADSL (Not Cable)
iPrimus

Please paste the results into an email and send them to me.

Thanks.

- Matt

Re: Testing Akamai

[Matthew Healey]

Hi Doug,

I am not sure if this was intentional or why I found it funny, but I 
burst out laughing when I saw it. I am sure the other geeks on this 
list will have a bit of a laugh as well.


Thanks anyway for doing it for me.

- Matt

On 25/05/2004, at 9:29 AM, Douglas Sheerer wrote:


I'm with Westnet ADSL
cheers
Doug

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packets

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Re: Testing Akamai

[Rob Findlay]

This is from Arachnet

Traceroute has started ...

traceroute to a4.g.akamai.net (144.135.8.207), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  mx2 (192.168.0.200)  25.884 ms  0.249 ms  0.192 ms
 2  172.31.144.52 (172.31.144.52)  42.621 ms  15.454 ms  14.854 ms
 3  172.31.173.2 (172.31.173.2)  17.401 ms  24.188 ms  14.539 ms
 4  tarantula-adsl-data1.arach.net.au (203.30.44.226)  13.796 ms  16.384 ms
12.855 ms
 5  labyrinth-adsl-trunk3.arach.net.au (203.30.44.214)  16.313 ms  18.749 ms
20.22 ms
 6  fastethernet2-1.qvb1.perth.telstra.net (139.130.130.1)  15.798 ms
17.832 ms  17.763 ms
 7  gigabitethernet2-1.wel-core3.perth.telstra.net (203.50.112.57)  14.939
ms  16.623 ms  21.651 ms
 8  pos4-0.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net (203.50.6.193)  49.317 ms  49.876
ms  45.667 ms
 9  pos5-0.exi-core1.melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.6.161)  59.901 ms  64.493
ms  60.7 ms
10  pos6-0.ken-core4.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.153)  73.869 ms  76.545 ms
71.476 ms
11  gigabitethernet1-1.pit1.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.2)  74.247 ms
74.31 ms  75.379 ms
12  pitt13-colo-r01 (139.130.193.254)  75.067 ms  75.611 ms  77.7 ms
13  144.135.8.207 (144.135.8.207)  74.622 ms  73.705 ms  76.077 ms


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[ADMIN] Testing... Is this thing on?

[Mailing List Manager]

Hi Everyone,

The server took a lot longer to upgrade and rebuild than I 
had expected.


Everything is almost back to normal with the list. The 
mirror site needs to fill up again, so there are a few 
things missing on that front.


You may not be able to post to the list for a while. The 
DNS system needs to filter through some of the changes we 
made.


ozmac.com users can now just go straight to 
https://mail.ozmac.com You don't need to worry about the 
port number any more.


Other than that, thanks for your patience.

- Matt

[ADMIN] Testing... Is this thing on?

[Mailing List Manager]

(This message will be sent a few times until I see it 
filter through.)


Hi Everyone,

The server took a lot longer to upgrade and rebuild than I 
had expected.


Everything is almost back to normal with the list. The 
mirror site needs to fill up again, so there are a few 
things missing on that front.


You may not be able to post to the list for a while. The 
DNS system needs to filter through some of the changes we 
made.


ozmac.com users can now just go straight to 
https://mail.ozmac.com You don't need to worry about the 
port number any more.


Other than that, thanks for your patience.

- Matt

testing (please ignore)

[logrythm]

nothing to see here folks, move along, havent you got homes to go to?!!

Don't open TESTing

[Brian Scott]

This is a test.

Just Testing-Please Ignore!

[Robert Dudley Miller-Eves]

Re: Thanks... for Assitance with testing a web page built on a PC (for Macintosh compatibility)...

[Mark Scholmann]

Hello,

thanks for those who spent time testing the Lotterywest web site last week,
as I requested.
The feedback has been informative and helpful.  We have worked out a few
areas we can improve our web pages for Mac displays.

Within the next week, I will directly contact those who replied with
feedback, as I require assistance with one more page (which includes some
modifications based on the information provided).

So, thank you to what appears to be a very united group of computer users !

Cheers,

Mark Scholmann
Technical Internet Support
Lotterywest

Direct phone : (08) 9340 5232


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Assitance with testing a web page built on a PC (for Macintosh compatibility)...

[Mark Scholmann]

Hello,

I am asking for assistance from Macintosh users who can visit a page, and
inform me of any display issues they may experience.

My name is Mark Scholmann, and I am with Lotterywest (previously Lotteries
Commission).  We recently re-launched our web site which worked well on
PC's, but had some serious problems with Macintosh computers.  Although, we
have attempted some fixes, it appears that they do not solve all variations
of OS / Browser combinations.  We do not have any Macintosh computers and
can not currently purchase or hire one.

*** Warning! I have had feedback by some Macintosh users that our pages
have crashed their computers!  Please view after saving critical work.


Two current web site pages are -
1. http://www.lotterywest.wa.gov.au/corporate/grantsguide/guideline.html
2. http://www.lotterywest.wa.gov.au/corporate/grantsguide/guid_001.html

A current web site test page -
3.
http://www.lotterywest.wa.gov.au/corporate/grantsguide/guid_001_test2.html

A newly built test page is -
4. http://www.lotterywest.wa.gov.au/test_page1.html


There should be a navigation javascript operating on the left side. The
forth page is a dummy page, and even though the links may be active, they
are not intended as such.

I am looking for any comments/suggestions on how these pages appear or
react on your computer + browser + OS combination.

If you could copy and paste the client data table at the top of the 4th
test page, it may help in providing details of your set up.

Reply direct to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any assistance in this matter is appreciated.

Mark Scholmann
Internet Analyst
Lotterywest

Direct phone : (08) 9340 5232

PS : I was a Mac user in another life, so really want to solve this issue!
:-(


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Lotterywest will not be liable to any recipient of this communication for
any loss or damage (including direct, consequential or economic loss or
damage) however caused whether by negligence or otherwise which may result
directly or indirectly from the receipt or use of this communication or
attachments. If you have received this transmission in error please notify
the sender immediately. You must destroy the original transmission. To the
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liability on Lotterywest, that liability shall be limited to the cost of
re-supplying this communication or having this communication re-supplied.
Any views expressed in this transmission and attachments are those of the
individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be
the views of Lotterywest.

Fwd: [ADMIN] Testing... Is this thing on?

[Simon C]

Just testing.

Begin forwarded message:


From: President [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue Aug 5, 2003  09:34:17 Australia/Perth
To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au
Subject: [ADMIN] Testing... Is this thing on?

Hopefully, we should be up and running now.

If you get this email, but can't post to the list, please email me 
personally.


- Matt

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing... Is this thing on?

[Mervyn Giuliana Bond]

If this doesn't boomerang then I have trouble.


Hopefully, we should be up and running now.

If you get this email, but can't post to the list, please email me personally.

- Matt

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also believe in order to see.

RE: [ADMIN] Testing... Is this thing on?

[Katinka Mills]

I just got it her El' Presidente

Hope the change over went smooth.

Regards,

Kat.

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[ADMIN] Testing... Is this thing on?

[President]

Hopefully, we should be up and running now.

If you get this email, but can't post to the list, please 
email me personally.


- Matt

Just testing

[Mervyn Giuliana Bond]

I'm Testing out Netscape 6.2 email so please ignore

[Bart Raffaele]

Industry veterans celebrated 10 years of Quick Time at a weekend soiree 
at a San Francisco hot spot.

happy Birthday Quick time.

Bart

Re: I'm Testing out Netscape 6.2 email so please ignore

[Onno Benschop]

Sigh,

How about sending the message to yourself, rather than bothering us with it?
--
()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno..
|?  ..EBCDIC for Onno..
--- -. -. ---   ..Morse for Onno..

ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219  - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I'm Testing out Netscape 6.2 email so please ignore

[Bart Raffaele]

Well thats not nice !
i had to check if my wamug yahoo groups settings where right so i can 
receive them .


HAVE A NICE NITE

Bart


Onno Benschop wrote:


Sigh,

How about sending the message to yourself, rather than bothering us with it?
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()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno..
|?  ..EBCDIC for Onno..
--- -. -. ---   ..Morse for Onno..

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Re: I'm Testing out Netscape 6.2 email so please ignore

[Reg Whitely]

Onno

Perhaps if I'd sent a test message to the collective wisdom of WAMUG 
at this time of the year, I'd prefer to receive a dove rather than a 
viper.


Regards and best wishes for Christmas,

Reg


Sigh,

How about sending the message to yourself, rather than bothering us with it?


http://www.viper.com.au
http://www.dove.com.au
http://www.hohum.com.au

RAM Testing

[Erik Hecht]

Hi All,
Does anyone out there know of any software which can test RAM and/or
provide details about it? (speed, voltage etc.)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Erik

Re: RAM Testing

[Peter Sealy]

verily on 22/11/01 2:36 AM, our learned friend Erik Hecht residing at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] thus spake this wisdom:

 Hi All,
 Does anyone out there know of any software which can test RAM and/or
 provide details about it? (speed, voltage etc.)
 Thanks in advance for any help!
 Erik

DIMMFirst Aid is the only one I know about, available to mere mortals, which
will provide details of the tested modules. Find it from Version Tracker.
Other software such as TechTool Pro can do pretty good tests on your RAM's
proficiency. Also there are other ways to do that without extra software.

Peter Sealy
Lavington NSW Australia

Any speling errors in this document are due to software bugs