[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fw: Jihadist video shows boy beheading man

2007-04-23 Terurut Topik Dan
Bukankah sebagian besar masyarakat muslim sekarang itu dianiaya oleh
sesama muslim? Contoh Aceh siapa yg menganiaya mereka?  Muslim dari
bagian lain di Indonesia.

Siapa yg menganiaya rakyat Irak?  Saddam Hussein yg sangat taat
sholatnya.  Siapa yg menganiaya rakyat Saudi? Raja mereka yg taat
sholatnya.

Tidak bisa kita membela dianiayanya muslim oleh sesama muslim dg
menggorok leher orang lain.

Tempatkan secara proporsional apa yg salah dan siapa yg salah.  Jangan
melampiaskan kemarahan secara membabi buta kalau tidak mau disebut barbar.

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, jano ko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mas Dana :
>
>   Sudah saatnya kita secara lantang memisahkan diri dari kebarbaran yg 
> mengaku-ngaku Islam ini. Sudah muak saya melihat Islam disandera dan 
> dijadikan tameng bagi keserakahan dan kebodohan suatu kelompok zalim.
> 
>   ---
>
>   Jano - ko :
>
>   Sabarsabar...sabar mas, emosi tanpa didasari pengetahuan itu
tdk baik lho mas ( nasehat untuk jano-ko )  :)
>
>   Yang jelas, umat Islam itu dianiaya secara fisik and dikarakter
asasinasi, tapi apakah masyarakat kita yang terpelajar yang didukung
oleh kemajuan tekhnologi informasi itu mau di. dengan
berita-berita yang ...itu ?
>
>   Mas Dana...mas dana, sekarang bukan jamannya "snouck hurgronye",
wake up man..
>
>   Apakah mas dana butuh data tentang jumlah saudara-saudara kita
yang meninggal karena dianiaya diseluruh dunia ?
>   Jano-ko akan memberinya kalau mas Dana menghendaki
>
>
>   Selamat siang
>
>
>   --oo0oo--
>
>   
> 
> Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Sudah saatnya kita secara lantang memisahkan diri dari
kebarbaran yg 
> mengaku-ngaku Islam ini. Sudah muak saya melihat Islam disandera dan 
> dijadikan tameng bagi keserakahan dan kebodohan suatu kelompok zalim.
> 




Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fw: Jihadist video shows boy beheading man - BIAS

2007-04-22 Terurut Topik jano ko
Jeng Rani :
   
  Mas Jan,

Siapa yang menganiaya saudara-saudara kita itu sampai meninggal ?

Apa penganiaya itu non muslim atau muslim ?

  ===
   
  JANI - KI  :
   
  O o...jadi belum tahu tho...
  Jani - ki beri info pelan-pelan, ..pelan-pelan and dikit-dikit supaya bisa 
diresapi.
   
  Kita bicara dulu tentang apa itu BIAS
   
  Nah, jano-ko nongolkan apa yang dimaksud dengan BIAS
   
  A bias is a prejudice in a general or specific sense, usually in the sense 
for having a preference to one particular point of view or ideological 
perspective.
   
  Atau =
   
  An unfair act or policy stemming from prejudice.
   
  ---
   
  Silahkan dihayati info dari jano-ko, nanti jano-ko tambah lagi.
   
  Selamat pagi
   
  --oo0oo--



  Mas Jan,

Siapa yang menganiaya saudara-saudara kita itu sampai meninggal ?

Apa penganiaya itu non muslim atau muslim ?

Kalau yang terjadi di Afrika itu katanya orang Islam di basmi juga 
oleh orang Islam, terus bagaimana ?

Terus yang tiap hari ngebomin orang Irak yang tidak berdosa itu 
siapa..?

Terus yang motong-motong leher orang dengan menyebutkan asma Allah 
itu siapa ?

juga yang terjadi di Indonesia..banyak orang Islam yang dianggap 
murtad hanya karena tidak sealiran..; bukannya termasuk penganiayaan 
juga..

mungkin mas Jano dapat memberikan pencerahan di hari Ahad ini..

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, jano ko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 
> Apakah mas dana butuh data tentang jumlah saudara-saudara kita 
yang meninggal karena dianiaya diseluruh dunia ?
> Jano-ko akan memberinya kalau mas Dana menghendaki
> 
> 
> Selamat siang
> 
> 
> --oo0oo--
> 



 

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[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fw: Jihadist video shows boy beheading man

2007-04-22 Terurut Topik Rani Kirana
Mas Jan,

Siapa yang menganiaya saudara-saudara kita itu sampai meninggal ?

Apa penganiaya itu non muslim atau muslim ?

Kalau yang terjadi di Afrika itu katanya orang Islam di basmi juga 
oleh orang Islam, terus bagaimana ?

Terus yang tiap hari ngebomin orang Irak yang tidak berdosa itu 
siapa..?

Terus yang motong-motong leher orang dengan menyebutkan asma Allah 
itu siapa ?

juga yang terjadi di Indonesia..banyak orang Islam yang dianggap 
murtad hanya karena tidak sealiran..; bukannya termasuk penganiayaan 
juga..

mungkin mas Jano dapat memberikan pencerahan di hari Ahad ini..

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, jano ko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
>   Apakah mas dana butuh data tentang jumlah saudara-saudara kita 
yang meninggal karena dianiaya diseluruh dunia ?
>   Jano-ko akan memberinya kalau mas Dana menghendaki
>
>
>   Selamat siang
>
>
>   --oo0oo--
>




Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Fw: Jihadist video shows boy beheading man

2007-04-21 Terurut Topik jano ko
Mas Dana :
   
  Sudah saatnya kita secara lantang memisahkan diri dari kebarbaran yg 
mengaku-ngaku Islam ini. Sudah muak saya melihat Islam disandera dan 
dijadikan tameng bagi keserakahan dan kebodohan suatu kelompok zalim.

  ---
   
  Jano - ko :
   
  Sabarsabar...sabar mas, emosi tanpa didasari pengetahuan itu tdk baik lho 
mas ( nasehat untuk jano-ko )  :)
   
  Yang jelas, umat Islam itu dianiaya secara fisik and dikarakter asasinasi, 
tapi apakah masyarakat kita yang terpelajar yang didukung oleh kemajuan 
tekhnologi informasi itu mau di. dengan berita-berita yang ...itu ?
   
  Mas Dana...mas dana, sekarang bukan jamannya "snouck hurgronye", wake up 
man..
   
  Apakah mas dana butuh data tentang jumlah saudara-saudara kita yang meninggal 
karena dianiaya diseluruh dunia ?
  Jano-ko akan memberinya kalau mas Dana menghendaki
   
   
  Selamat siang
   
   
  --oo0oo--
   
  

Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sudah saatnya kita secara lantang memisahkan diri dari kebarbaran yg 
mengaku-ngaku Islam ini. Sudah muak saya melihat Islam disandera dan 
dijadikan tameng bagi keserakahan dan kebodohan suatu kelompok zalim.

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Kartono Mohamad" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Astaghfirullah, apa jadinya anak ini kelak.
> KM
> 
> From: Geopolitics Net
> Date: 21-04-2007 5:30:22
> Subject: Jihadist video shows boy beheading man
> 
> Jihadist video shows boy beheading man
> 
> Associated Press
> 
> Friday, April 20, 2007
> 
> By ABDUL SATTAR, Associated Press Writer
> 
> The boy with the knife looks barely 12. In a high-pitched voice, he
> denounces the bound, blindfolded man before him as an American spy. 
Then he
> hacks off the captive's head to cries of "God is great!" and hoists 
it in
> triumph by the hair.
> 
> A video circulating in Pakistan records the grisly death of Ghulam 
Nabi, a
> Pakistani militant accused of betraying a top Taliban official who 
was
> killed in a December airstrike in Afghanistan.
> 
> An Associated Press reporter confirmed Nabi's identity by visiting 
his
> family in Kili Faqiran, their remote village in southwestern 
Pakistan.
> 
> The video, which was obtained by AP Television News in the border 
city of
> Peshawar on Tuesday, appears authentic and is unprecedented in 
jihadist
> propaganda because of the youth of the executioner.
> 
> Captions mention Mullah Dadullah, the Taliban's current top 
commander in
> southern Afghanistan, although he does not appear in the video. The
> soundtrack features songs praising Taliban supreme leader Mullah 
Omar and 
> Sheikh Osama" - an apparent reference to Osama bin Laden, who is 
suspected
> of hiding along the Afghan-Pakistan border.
> 
> The footage shows Nabi making what is described as a confession, 
being
> blindfolded with a checkered scarf.
> 
> "He is an American spy. Those who do this kind of thing will get 
this kind
> of fate," says his baby-faced executioner, who is not identified.
> 
> A continuous 2 1/2-minute shot then shows the victim lying on his 
side on a
> patch of rubble-strewn ground. A man holds Nabi by his beard while 
the boy,
> wearing a camouflage military jacket and oversized white sneakers, 
cuts into
> the throat. Other men and boys call out "Allahu akbar!" - "God is 
great!" -
> as blood spurts from the wound.
> 
> The film, overlain with jihadi songs, then shows the boy hacking and
> slashing at the man's neck until the head is severed.
> 
> A Pashto-language voiceover in the video identifies Nabi and his 
home
> village of Kili Faqiran in Baluchistan province, which lies about 
two hours'
> drive from the Afghan border.
> 
> A reporter went to the village, and Nabi's distraught and angry 
father,
> Ghulam Sakhi, confirmed his son's identity from a still picture 
that AP made
> from the footage. He said neighbors had told him the video is 
available at
> the village bazaar, but he had no wish to see it.
> 
> Sakhi said his son had been a loyal Taliban member who fought in 
Afghanistan
> and sheltered the hard-line Afghan group's leaders in the family's
> mud-walled compound.
> 
> He blames the Taliban and wants to avenge his son's death.
> 
> "The Taliban are not mujahedeen. They are not fighting for the 
cause of
> Islam," the 70-year-old said. "If I got my hands on them I would 
kill them
> and even tear their flesh with my own teeth."
> 
> Qari Yousaf Ahmadi, who claims to speak for the Taliban, told AP he 
had no
> information about Nabi or the video. None of the group's commanders 
he
> contacted could confirm the execution, he said.
> 
> The method of Nabi's death was not unusual for Pakistan's lawless 
tribal
> regions. Suspected informers are regularly found beheaded and 
dumped along
> the side of the road in the lawless, mountainous regions along the
> Afghan-Pakistani border where al-Qaida and Taliban militants find 
sanctuary.
> 
> But such al-Qaida-style killings are rarely featured in the 
Talib

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Fw: Jihadist video shows boy beheading man

2007-04-21 Terurut Topik Dan
Sudah saatnya kita secara lantang memisahkan diri dari kebarbaran yg 
mengaku-ngaku Islam ini.  Sudah muak saya melihat Islam disandera dan 
dijadikan tameng bagi keserakahan dan kebodohan suatu kelompok zalim.

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, "Kartono Mohamad" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Astaghfirullah, apa jadinya anak ini kelak.
> KM
>  
> From: Geopolitics Net
> Date: 21-04-2007 5:30:22
> Subject: Jihadist video shows boy beheading man
>  
> Jihadist video shows boy beheading man
> 
> Associated Press
> 
> Friday, April 20, 2007
> 
> By ABDUL SATTAR, Associated Press Writer
> 
> The boy with the knife looks barely 12. In a high-pitched voice, he
> denounces the bound, blindfolded man before him as an American spy. 
Then he
> hacks off the captive's head to cries of "God is great!" and hoists 
it in
> triumph by the hair.
> 
> A video circulating in Pakistan records the grisly death of Ghulam 
Nabi, a
> Pakistani militant accused of betraying a top Taliban official who 
was
> killed in a December airstrike in Afghanistan.
> 
> An Associated Press reporter confirmed Nabi's identity by visiting 
his
> family in Kili Faqiran, their remote village in southwestern 
Pakistan.
> 
> The video, which was obtained by AP Television News in the border 
city of
> Peshawar on Tuesday, appears authentic and is unprecedented in 
jihadist
> propaganda because of the youth of the executioner.
> 
> Captions mention Mullah Dadullah, the Taliban's current top 
commander in
> southern Afghanistan, although he does not appear in the video. The
> soundtrack features songs praising Taliban supreme leader Mullah 
Omar and 
> Sheikh Osama" - an apparent reference to Osama bin Laden, who is 
suspected
> of hiding along the Afghan-Pakistan border.
> 
> The footage shows Nabi making what is described as a confession, 
being
> blindfolded with a checkered scarf.
> 
> "He is an American spy. Those who do this kind of thing will get 
this kind
> of fate," says his baby-faced executioner, who is not identified.
> 
> A continuous 2 1/2-minute shot then shows the victim lying on his 
side on a
> patch of rubble-strewn ground. A man holds Nabi by his beard while 
the boy,
> wearing a camouflage military jacket and oversized white sneakers, 
cuts into
> the throat. Other men and boys call out "Allahu akbar!" - "God is 
great!" -
> as blood spurts from the wound.
> 
> The film, overlain with jihadi songs, then shows the boy hacking and
> slashing at the man's neck until the head is severed.
> 
> A Pashto-language voiceover in the video identifies Nabi and his 
home
> village of Kili Faqiran in Baluchistan province, which lies about 
two hours'
> drive from the Afghan border.
> 
> A reporter went to the village, and Nabi's distraught and angry 
father,
> Ghulam Sakhi, confirmed his son's identity from a still picture 
that AP made
> from the footage. He said neighbors had told him the video is 
available at
> the village bazaar, but he had no wish to see it.
> 
> Sakhi said his son had been a loyal Taliban member who fought in 
Afghanistan
> and sheltered the hard-line Afghan group's leaders in the family's
> mud-walled compound.
> 
> He blames the Taliban and wants to avenge his son's death.
> 
> "The Taliban are not mujahedeen. They are not fighting for the 
cause of
> Islam," the 70-year-old said. "If I got my hands on them I would 
kill them
> and even tear their flesh with my own teeth."
> 
> Qari Yousaf Ahmadi, who claims to speak for the Taliban, told AP he 
had no
> information about Nabi or the video. None of the group's commanders 
he
> contacted could confirm the execution, he said.
> 
> The method of Nabi's death was not unusual for Pakistan's lawless 
tribal
> regions. Suspected informers are regularly found beheaded and 
dumped along
> the side of the road in the lawless, mountainous regions along the
> Afghan-Pakistani border where al-Qaida and Taliban militants find 
sanctuary.
> 
> But such al-Qaida-style killings are rarely featured in the 
Taliban's
> increasingly frequent propaganda videos. The use of a child to 
conduct the
> beheading stands out even among those filmed by militants in Iraq.
> 
> "This is outright barbarism," Iqbal Haider, secretary-general of the
> independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, said after viewing 
the
> video. "Whosoever has committed this, whether they are Taliban or 
anybody
> else or any Afghan or al-Qaida or anybody, they are enemy No. 1 of 
the
> Muslims."
> 
> The video accuses Nabi of responsibility for a U.S. airstrike that 
killed
> Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Osmani, who was regarded as one of the top 
three
> associates of Omar, the Taliban supreme leader. He was hit while 
traveling
> by car in Afghanistan's Helmand province Dec. 19.
> 
> Osmani was the highest-ranking Taliban leader to die since the U.S.-
led
> invasion of Afghanistan that ousted the hard-line regime in late 
2001 for
> refusing to hand over bin Laden following the Sept. 11 terror 
attack on the
> U