Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Language barrier

2005-07-17 Terurut Topik oman abdurahman
Maaf jika topik ikut nimbrung saya agak melenceng dari topik asalnya.
 Persoalan yang dikemukakan oleh Mbak Lina adalah satu diantara persoalan 
pokok mengapa pegawai negeri Indonesia tidak mengalami kemajuan. Persoalan 
intinya adalah bahwa dalam kenaikan karir seseorang di Indonesia berlaku 
ketentuan masa jabatan dan DP3 yang kriterianya tidak jelas (dipandang 
dari segi prestasi) dan cenderung subyektif.
 Adanya ketentuan masa kerja untuk sampai pada posisi jabatan tertentu 
sungguh menghasilkan budaya kerja yang kurang berprestasi. Ketentuan 
tersebut juga menjadikan prestasi bukan ukuran untuk sampai pada posisi 
tertentu atau pegang jabatan. Butir-butir yang dinilai dalam DP3 adalah 
kualitas langit (seperti: kesetiaan, dll) yang tidak disertai dengan 
indikator penilaiannya. Saya sendiri cenderung berpendapat bahwa butir-butir 
yang dinilai dalam DP3 adalah cara khas orde baru (yg skrang sudah usang) 
dalam melanggengkan kekuasaannya.
 Sekian dulu.
 manAR

 On 7/18/05, Lina alwi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 Gelar sederet itu nggak ada artinya bila diperoleh dari institusi 
 pendidikan
 yang gak jelas/bayar 20 jutaan per gelar. Jadi tidak ada relevansinya 
 dengan
 intelektualitas dan kemampuan pejabat. Apalagi kalau dihubungkan dengan
 moralitas.
 Repotnya lagi, untuk menjadi pejabat eselon di pemerintahan, yang dilihat
 adalah kepangkatannya. Misalnya saja, Eselon 1 minimal IV-C, eselon II
 minimal IV - B dst... Orang-orang yang pandai dan berkualitas umumnya 
 agak
 malas ngurus2 kepangkatan. Harap maklum saja kalau pejabat eselon banyak
 yang tulalit... (walau banyak juga yang berkualitas)
 salam
 On 7/15/05, Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dana Pamilih [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:25 AM
  Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Language barrier
 
 
   Makanya pilih petinggi yg berpendidikan.
  
 
  Lho, coba lihat titel para petinggi. Semua punya titel akademik luar dan
  negeri, ada yang SH, Dr, prof, PhD etc. Barangkali harus dipikirkan 
 bahwa
  berpendidikan tinggi bukan jaminan bermoral baik.
 
   --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Para petinggi Indonesia seharusnya lebih dulu menunjukan bahwa
   mereka
   memakai bahasa sesuai standar yang benar, bukan seperti sayur
   campur.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: ayeye1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:10 AM
   Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Language barrier
  
  
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detaileditorial.asp?
   fileid=20050715.E01irec=0
   
Language barrier
   
Bahasa Indonesia serves a unique position in this nation's
   history.
Not only does it function as a medium of communication, but it has
also became a unifier of the nation.
   
The language has been the bridge in uniting the many ethnic
   groups,
which have their own unique local language. By virtue of the sheer
size of Indonesia's population, Bahasa Indonesia is one of the top
five most spoken languages in the world.
   
Hence, it is such a shame that a language, which served as a
   catalyst
for unity, would be used to discriminate.
   
That will happen if the government persists in setting strict
   language
prerequisites on foreigners employed in Indonesia.
   
Minister of Manpower Fahmi Idris has apparently followed a plan,
initially introduced some two years ago, to require Bahasa
   Indonesia
proficiency tests for expatriates working here.
   
The minister said the tests would be designed to reduce the
   number of
foreign workers in the country.
   
Fahmi is apparently afraid that Indonesian citizens will lose out
   in
the job market as the country, based on regional and global trade
arrangements, begins opening its doors to foreign job seekers
   next year.
   
An understanding of local customs and culture, including its
   language,
is always preferable when anyone seeks employment in a foreign
country. The willingness of newcomers to learn such things, not
   only
shows respect toward the people of the host nation, but will
ultimately facilitate the transition and work of that person on a
daily basis.
   
But to introduce formal language requirements as a condition to
obtaining a work permit is an unnecessary, not to mention unfair,
condition.
   
Employment should be based on one's own skill and merit. If a
   language
requirement is so crucial that it does require a higher degree of
proficiency in Bahasa Indonesia, then those unable to speak the
language will automatically be filtered out.
   
Technical competence related to the field in question should the
   be
the single biggest consideration.
   
We believe that expats with a professional aptitude and those that
truly want to work in this country will, by their own

[wanita-muslimah] Re: Language barrier

2005-07-15 Terurut Topik Dana Pamilih
Makanya pilih petinggi yg berpendidikan.

--- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Para petinggi Indonesia seharusnya lebih dulu menunjukan bahwa 
mereka 
 memakai bahasa sesuai standar yang benar, bukan seperti sayur 
campur.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: ayeye1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:10 AM
 Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Language barrier
 
 
  http://www.thejakartapost.com/detaileditorial.asp?
fileid=20050715.E01irec=0
 
  Language barrier
 
  Bahasa Indonesia serves a unique position in this nation's 
history.
  Not only does it function as a medium of communication, but it has
  also became a unifier of the nation.
 
  The language has been the bridge in uniting the many ethnic 
groups,
  which have their own unique local language. By virtue of the sheer
  size of Indonesia's population, Bahasa Indonesia is one of the top
  five most spoken languages in the world.
 
  Hence, it is such a shame that a language, which served as a 
catalyst
  for unity, would be used to discriminate.
 
  That will happen if the government persists in setting strict 
language
  prerequisites on foreigners employed in Indonesia.
 
  Minister of Manpower Fahmi Idris has apparently followed a plan,
  initially introduced some two years ago, to require Bahasa 
Indonesia
  proficiency tests for expatriates working here.
 
  The minister said the tests would be designed to reduce the 
number of
  foreign workers in the country.
 
  Fahmi is apparently afraid that Indonesian citizens will lose out 
in
  the job market as the country, based on regional and global trade
  arrangements, begins opening its doors to foreign job seekers 
next year.
 
  An understanding of local customs and culture, including its 
language,
  is always preferable when anyone seeks employment in a foreign
  country. The willingness of newcomers to learn such things, not 
only
  shows respect toward the people of the host nation, but will
  ultimately facilitate the transition and work of that person on a
  daily basis.
 
  But to introduce formal language requirements as a condition to
  obtaining a work permit is an unnecessary, not to mention unfair,
  condition.
 
  Employment should be based on one's own skill and merit. If a 
language
  requirement is so crucial that it does require a higher degree of
  proficiency in Bahasa Indonesia, then those unable to speak the
  language will automatically be filtered out.
 
  Technical competence related to the field in question should the 
be
  the single biggest consideration.
 
  We believe that expats with a professional aptitude and those that
  truly want to work in this country will, by their own volition, 
seek
  to learn more about the prevailing norms and customs, including 
the
  language. To do otherwise would only be detrimental to his/her 
career
  here.
 
  The government's plan only reveals a lack of self-confidence and 
shows
  its perceptions about the poor standard of our workforce.
 
  The objective should not be protectionism, but instead to engage 
in
  policies that would lift the quality of Indonesia's workforce --
  through education and training.
 
  If we as a nation are only qualified as street sweepers, then 
maybe
  that is what we should ultimately become. To blame others who are 
more
  qualified to take jobs that most Indonesians could not do anyway 
is petty.
 
  It is our own fault that we have not, and still are not, investing
  enough in education.
 
  India is one developing country in which such an investment must 
be
  lauded and emulated for consistently investing in that sector 
despite
  the economic challenges.
 
  There is nothing to be afraid of. With the right attitude and
  determination, the climate of free competition will only make the
  nation better.
 
  Indonesia -- along with the likes of India and the Philippines -- 
is a
  country that can actually benefit from the loosening of 
restrictions
  on foreign employment. There are perhaps 10 times more Indonesians
  working abroad than the some 130,000 expatriate workers here.
 
  What would happen, for example, if Indonesian migrant workers 
going to
  the Middle East or Hong Kong were required to take a language
  proficiency test in Arabic or Mandarin before being granted a 
work permit?
 
  It would not be an exaggeration to predict that almost all would 
fail.
 
  Since the government is seeking to boost the number of migrant 
workers
  sent abroad, Jakarta should thus act with equal reciprocity.
 
  There are other means, many already in place, to control the 
number of
  expatriates working in this country. Already expatriates here pay 
much
  higher taxes than locals. When a company requires the services of 
a
  capable foreigner, local companies already have to justify their
  reasons for hiring an expatriate.
 
  Although Minister Fahmi Idris claims that the government is not 
trying
  to 

Re: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Language barrier

2005-07-15 Terurut Topik Ambon

- Original Message - 
From: Dana Pamilih [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Re: Language barrier


 Makanya pilih petinggi yg berpendidikan.


Lho, coba lihat titel para petinggi. Semua punya titel akademik luar dan 
negeri, ada yang SH, Dr, prof, PhD etc. Barangkali harus dipikirkan bahwa 
berpendidikan tinggi bukan jaminan bermoral baik.

 --- In wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com, Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Para petinggi Indonesia seharusnya lebih dulu menunjukan bahwa
 mereka
 memakai bahasa sesuai standar yang benar, bukan seperti sayur
 campur.

 - Original Message - 
 From: ayeye1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wanita-muslimah@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:10 AM
 Subject: [wanita-muslimah] Language barrier


  http://www.thejakartapost.com/detaileditorial.asp?
 fileid=20050715.E01irec=0
 
  Language barrier
 
  Bahasa Indonesia serves a unique position in this nation's
 history.
  Not only does it function as a medium of communication, but it has
  also became a unifier of the nation.
 
  The language has been the bridge in uniting the many ethnic
 groups,
  which have their own unique local language. By virtue of the sheer
  size of Indonesia's population, Bahasa Indonesia is one of the top
  five most spoken languages in the world.
 
  Hence, it is such a shame that a language, which served as a
 catalyst
  for unity, would be used to discriminate.
 
  That will happen if the government persists in setting strict
 language
  prerequisites on foreigners employed in Indonesia.
 
  Minister of Manpower Fahmi Idris has apparently followed a plan,
  initially introduced some two years ago, to require Bahasa
 Indonesia
  proficiency tests for expatriates working here.
 
  The minister said the tests would be designed to reduce the
 number of
  foreign workers in the country.
 
  Fahmi is apparently afraid that Indonesian citizens will lose out
 in
  the job market as the country, based on regional and global trade
  arrangements, begins opening its doors to foreign job seekers
 next year.
 
  An understanding of local customs and culture, including its
 language,
  is always preferable when anyone seeks employment in a foreign
  country. The willingness of newcomers to learn such things, not
 only
  shows respect toward the people of the host nation, but will
  ultimately facilitate the transition and work of that person on a
  daily basis.
 
  But to introduce formal language requirements as a condition to
  obtaining a work permit is an unnecessary, not to mention unfair,
  condition.
 
  Employment should be based on one's own skill and merit. If a
 language
  requirement is so crucial that it does require a higher degree of
  proficiency in Bahasa Indonesia, then those unable to speak the
  language will automatically be filtered out.
 
  Technical competence related to the field in question should the
 be
  the single biggest consideration.
 
  We believe that expats with a professional aptitude and those that
  truly want to work in this country will, by their own volition,
 seek
  to learn more about the prevailing norms and customs, including
 the
  language. To do otherwise would only be detrimental to his/her
 career
  here.
 
  The government's plan only reveals a lack of self-confidence and
 shows
  its perceptions about the poor standard of our workforce.
 
  The objective should not be protectionism, but instead to engage
 in
  policies that would lift the quality of Indonesia's workforce --
  through education and training.
 
  If we as a nation are only qualified as street sweepers, then
 maybe
  that is what we should ultimately become. To blame others who are
 more
  qualified to take jobs that most Indonesians could not do anyway
 is petty.
 
  It is our own fault that we have not, and still are not, investing
  enough in education.
 
  India is one developing country in which such an investment must
 be
  lauded and emulated for consistently investing in that sector
 despite
  the economic challenges.
 
  There is nothing to be afraid of. With the right attitude and
  determination, the climate of free competition will only make the
  nation better.
 
  Indonesia -- along with the likes of India and the Philippines -- 
 is a
  country that can actually benefit from the loosening of
 restrictions
  on foreign employment. There are perhaps 10 times more Indonesians
  working abroad than the some 130,000 expatriate workers here.
 
  What would happen, for example, if Indonesian migrant workers
 going to
  the Middle East or Hong Kong were required to take a language
  proficiency test in Arabic or Mandarin before being granted a
 work permit?
 
  It would not be an exaggeration to predict that almost all would
 fail.
 
  Since the government is seeking to boost the number of migrant
 workers
  sent abroad, Jakarta should thus act with equal reciprocity.
 
  There are other