Re: {WP} SV: SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense
You will be receiving a letter from my attorneys as soon as they research
your address over this slanderous note. You called me by name in a public
forum accused me of sexual deviancy and other assorted slanderous things and
I intend to be compensated by you for this! I'm going to squeeze you until
your dry Jim
- Original Message -
From: rod/christine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: {WP} SV: SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense
Claes Persson wrote:
- Original Message -
From: rod/christine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: {WP} SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense
Rod wrote answering Al:
===
Sheez, should they come to your state and chop down EVERY tree?
Better
forest management would be to let the forest burn when it is nature
doing it (lightning).
The weekend camper (female no less!) who started the Sequoia one in
California was a nutjob for even playing with a lighter or matches!
What the hell was she thinking? Must have been a public school
education, huh? - you think so?
So much of the western part of USA is owned by the gov't (public
lands)
and managed quite poorly over the years. I don't think it can be
blamed
on the leftists (whatever that means). We are near the Little
Missouri National Grasslands - and it is fairly well managed, but
always is back-and-forth - depending on whether a Jimmy Carter (goofy)
or a Ronny Reagan (senile) is inhabitating the Executive Branch.
Up here, it is the levels of the six main-stem dams, that hold the
waters of the upper parts (States) of the Missouri River that are
bones
of contention. It all depends on the winter snow packs in Montana -
the
past couple years have been way below normal - bigtime! The lower
parts
(States) want the water for barge traffic (navigation) and the upper
parts (States) want it for irrigation and tourism. They generate
electricity too! The rivers are losing all their native fish
species -
they are locked into the areas between the dam sites.
The Indian Tribes lost prime bottomlands (many, many beautiful trees
too) when the water began backing up. When the barges (1830's) first
began coming up the Missouri and needed firewood to power the barges -
the trees (forests) along the river were chopped down and never
replaced... so all the animals had no cover (nesting) and many
species
simply went extinct!
My opinion is that chopping down entire forests is sheer stupidity.
Better management would be to maybe take 5-10 percent of the forest
and
leave the rest intact. Another 10 years or so, and come an take a
different portion of the forest. It could be done without the gov't
always building roads at taxpayer expense!
Helicopters are a cost-efficient way of selectively taking out trees -
one-by-one. This is taking place in parts of Idaho, Montana,
Washington, British Columbia, etc. I'm sure it is done in other parts
of the world (earth) too.
Finally, the Hemp Plant is the answer to the paper problem. But the
rightwingers are afraid that some kids might smoke some - and go crazy
and have to be put on Ritalin. The Hearst Corporation (newsprint) is
always putting out scare stories on marijuana (maryjane) twisting it
wit hemp as being some sort of devils weed, and such nonsense. Such
is
the life and times in 21st century America.
Rod
I think that this is quite a good analysis of the problem. As far as US
goes. The terrible thing is that deforresting is going on world wide and
in a scale that's horyfying. South America (the Amazon Basin) All the
islands like Sumatra, Jawa and the others are deforeted in a terrible
speed without any atempt to replant. The different kind of animals
dependent on the rainforrest, from Orangutang and down the scale of
developement, like birds, lizzards and all the insects soon have nowhere
to hide. Many of those living things are not even discovered yet, and we
will never konow what we are missing. Many of the plants are maybe
hiding substances good for making medecine for humans. Nature has
usually already the solution to most problems, It has been around much
longer than the humans, but we will never know as they will be extinct,
due to greedy forresters before we can find them.
===
My family lived for a year and few months in the Amazon. A childhood
friend of the wife i (not us!) became religious and became a
missionary for some religious church group. We were asked to come on
down and build a school, a few houses, plumbing work, solar wind
generators erected etc. so on and so forth.
The Brazilian gov't has snipers who go deep into the jungles and
assassinate the native indian tribes - elders and young boys and
girls. Disrupt their mode of living
RE: {WP} SV: SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense
Claes Persson wrote:
- Original Message -
From: rod/christine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: {WP} SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense
Rod wrote answering Al:
===
Sheez, should they come to your state and chop down EVERY tree? Better
forest management would be to let the forest burn when it is nature
doing it (lightning).
The weekend camper (female no less!) who started the Sequoia one in
California was a nutjob for even playing with a lighter or matches!
What the hell was she thinking? Must have been a public school
education, huh? - you think so?
So much of the western part of USA is owned by the gov't (public lands)
and managed quite poorly over the years. I don't think it can be blamed
on the leftists (whatever that means). We are near the Little
Missouri National Grasslands - and it is fairly well managed, but
always is back-and-forth - depending on whether a Jimmy Carter (goofy)
or a Ronny Reagan (senile) is inhabitating the Executive Branch.
Up here, it is the levels of the six main-stem dams, that hold the
waters of the upper parts (States) of the Missouri River that are bones
of contention. It all depends on the winter snow packs in Montana - the
past couple years have been way below normal - bigtime! The lower parts
(States) want the water for barge traffic (navigation) and the upper
parts (States) want it for irrigation and tourism. They generate
electricity too! The rivers are losing all their native fish species -
they are locked into the areas between the dam sites.
The Indian Tribes lost prime bottomlands (many, many beautiful trees
too) when the water began backing up. When the barges (1830's) first
began coming up the Missouri and needed firewood to power the barges -
the trees (forests) along the river were chopped down and never
replaced... so all the animals had no cover (nesting) and many species
simply went extinct!
My opinion is that chopping down entire forests is sheer stupidity.
Better management would be to maybe take 5-10 percent of the forest and
leave the rest intact. Another 10 years or so, and come an take a
different portion of the forest. It could be done without the gov't
always building roads at taxpayer expense!
Helicopters are a cost-efficient way of selectively taking out trees -
one-by-one. This is taking place in parts of Idaho, Montana,
Washington, British Columbia, etc. I'm sure it is done in other parts
of the world (earth) too.
Finally, the Hemp Plant is the answer to the paper problem. But the
rightwingers are afraid that some kids might smoke some - and go crazy
and have to be put on Ritalin. The Hearst Corporation (newsprint) is
always putting out scare stories on marijuana (maryjane) twisting it
wit hemp as being some sort of devils weed, and such nonsense. Such is
the life and times in 21st century America.
Rod
I think that this is quite a good analysis of the problem. As far as US
goes. The terrible thing is that deforresting is going on world wide and
in a scale that's horyfying. South America (the Amazon Basin) All the
islands like Sumatra, Jawa and the others are deforeted in a terrible
speed without any atempt to replant. The different kind of animals
dependent on the rainforrest, from Orangutang and down the scale of
developement, like birds, lizzards and all the insects soon have nowhere
to hide. Many of those living things are not even discovered yet, and we
will never konow what we are missing. Many of the plants are maybe
hiding substances good for making medecine for humans. Nature has
usually already the solution to most problems, It has been around much
longer than the humans, but we will never know as they will be extinct,
due to greedy forresters before we can find them.
All this is done by deforresting, taking all and leave nothing to
protect the ground out of greed, and as you say, Ron, it's stupid, but
the mighty short time proffit rules. Your idea of taking 10% is old and
was practised here in Sweeden for many years. But the proffit suffer.
It's complicated. Then they found that there was better proffit of strip
forresting a piece at the time. However the planting of new trees have
been done. If they don't take care of replanting the state comes down on
them like a ton of bricks. The landscape looks funny, but is not left un
attended, at least.
I'm always hoping that people will get more and more intelligence, but
sometimes I think that people are just getting dumber. I'm no genius but
I still feel lonely. To be a genius must be a very lonley life. It seems
that the rule for too many of the forresters is: Big bucks to day fast
and as easy as possible, after us - who cares.
Claes
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