Re: [PATCH libinput 02/11] touchpad: only enable thumb detection on clickpads

2015-07-22 Thread Dominic Jänichen
Dominic Jänichen  writes:

> 
> Hello Peter,
> 
> did you think about Thinkpads? For me, having physical buttons above
> the touchpad is the reason to have the thumb on it... That is, while using
> the trackpoint.
> (This particular touchpad also is a clickpad, but there is (older) models
> with non-clickpad touchpads...)
> This also goes for patch number 7; it is the right (me being right handed)
> side of the touchpad that gets the thumb, not only the lower part. (And the
> left side for left handed people)
> 
> Dominic
> 


So, turns out I should be in for a basic course on anatomy... I thought
about "palm" when you wrote "thumb".
Sorry for the noise.

Dominic
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Re: [PATCH libinput 02/11] touchpad: only enable thumb detection on clickpads

2015-07-22 Thread Dominic Jänichen
Peter Hutterer  writes:

> The use-case we have thumb detection for is to let a user rest a
> thumb on the touchpad before clicking. On a touchpad with physical
> buttons, the thumb won't be resting on the touchpad.
> 

Hello Peter,

did you think about Thinkpads? For me, having physical buttons above
the touchpad is the reason to have the thumb on it... That is, while using
the trackpoint.
(This particular touchpad also is a clickpad, but there is (older) models
with non-clickpad touchpads...)
This also goes for patch number 7; it is the right (me being right handed)
side of the touchpad that gets the thumb, not only the lower part. (And the
left side for left handed people)


Dominic


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Re: [RFC] libinput configuration interface

2014-02-18 Thread Dominic Jänichen
On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:02:42 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> 
> tbh, I'm not planning to support every potential option under the sun.
> There's a fine and rather blurry line between what is a preference and
> what is merely configuration because we can't commit to a single
> default. I'd rather have less configuration options and support those
> well and do the synaptics approach of supporting everything but being
> quite bad at how the various options interact.

 
 
> As for the softbuttons config items, I'm somewhat leaning towards finger
> movement in the button areas, but no clicks outside the button area. And
> to actually trigger a button, you need to start inside the button area -
> which becomes easier when you have proper finger tracking (synaptics
> currently doesn't). 

Does that imply the following use case will be supported?

Being used to TP trackpoints, I am using the index finger outside the 
button area (on a touchpad that doubles as one hardware button) and the 
thumb to "click".
I'd expect to able to move the pointer with the index finger while 
clicking, disregarding slight thumb movements while doing so.


This seems to very difficult to archieve (if at all) with the synaptics 
driver; the points jumps widely, especially if the index finger is 
removed from the touch pad immediately before clicking.

I can imagine that this boils down to having areas insensitive to motion, 
but still working as softbuttons.

Dominic


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