Re: [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services
On 02/27/2020 01:27 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote: > Hi all, > > You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes > already, here's the long version. > > The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our > communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes all the > CI integration. Modern development process and tooling, yay! > > The bad news: The cost in growth has also been tremendous, and it's > breaking our bank account. With reasonable estimates for continued > growth we're expecting hosting expenses totalling 75k USD this year, > and 90k USD next year. With the current sponsors we've set up we can't > sustain that. We estimate that hosting expenses for gitlab.fd.o > without any of the CI features enabled would total 30k USD, which is > within X.org's ability to support through various sponsorships, mostly > through XDC. > Have you looked into applying for free credits from amazon: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/aws-promotional-credits-open-source-projects/ -Tom > Note that X.org does no longer sponsor any CI runners themselves, > we've stopped that. The huge additional expenses are all just in > storing and serving build artifacts and images to outside CI runners > sponsored by various companies. A related topic is that with the > growth in fd.o it's becoming infeasible to maintain it all on > volunteer admin time. X.org is therefore also looking for admin > sponsorship, at least medium term. > > Assuming that we want cash flow reserves for one year of gitlab.fd.o > (without CI support) and a trimmed XDC and assuming no sponsor payment > meanwhile, we'd have to cut CI services somewhere between May and June > this year. The board is of course working on acquiring sponsors, but > filling a shortfall of this magnitude is neither easy nor quick work, > and we therefore decided to give an early warning as soon as possible. > Any help in finding sponsors for fd.o is very much appreciated. > > Thanks, Daniel > ___ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
Re: [Mesa-dev] gitlab.fd.o financial situation and impact on services
On 02/27/2020 05:00 PM, Tom Stellard wrote: > On 02/27/2020 01:27 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> You might have read the short take in the X.org board meeting minutes >> already, here's the long version. >> >> The good news: gitlab.fd.o has become very popular with our >> communities, and is used extensively. This especially includes all the >> CI integration. Modern development process and tooling, yay! >> >> The bad news: The cost in growth has also been tremendous, and it's >> breaking our bank account. With reasonable estimates for continued >> growth we're expecting hosting expenses totalling 75k USD this year, >> and 90k USD next year. With the current sponsors we've set up we can't >> sustain that. We estimate that hosting expenses for gitlab.fd.o >> without any of the CI features enabled would total 30k USD, which is >> within X.org's ability to support through various sponsorships, mostly >> through XDC. >> > > Have you looked into applying for free credits from amazon: > > https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/aws-promotional-credits-open-source-projects/ > Also fastly provides free CDN services to some Open Source projects: https://www.fastly.com/open-source?utm_medium=social&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=FY17Q4_WebPage_OpenSource It might also be worth looking into if the main costs are coming from data transfers. -Tom > -Tom > >> Note that X.org does no longer sponsor any CI runners themselves, >> we've stopped that. The huge additional expenses are all just in >> storing and serving build artifacts and images to outside CI runners >> sponsored by various companies. A related topic is that with the >> growth in fd.o it's becoming infeasible to maintain it all on >> volunteer admin time. X.org is therefore also looking for admin >> sponsorship, at least medium term. >> >> Assuming that we want cash flow reserves for one year of gitlab.fd.o >> (without CI support) and a trimmed XDC and assuming no sponsor payment >> meanwhile, we'd have to cut CI services somewhere between May and June >> this year. The board is of course working on acquiring sponsors, but >> filling a shortfall of this magnitude is neither easy nor quick work, >> and we therefore decided to give an early warning as soon as possible. >> Any help in finding sponsors for fd.o is very much appreciated. >> >> Thanks, Daniel >> > > ___ > mesa-dev mailing list > mesa-...@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev > ___ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
XDC 2015: Updated Schedule, Social Event, Video release form
Hi, I just wanted to pass along a few XDC updates: - I have made some changes to the schedule, but it should still be considered tentative. I will let announce once it has been finalized. - There is an informal get together planned for Tuesday night if you are in town early. Please sign up on the wiki[1]. If transportation is an issue, please let me know and we can help organize something. - The conference talks as well as Q/A sessions of the conference will be video recorded, so we will be asking attendees to sign a video release form[2]. Please review the form and let me know if you have any questions. -Tom [1] http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2015/Social/ [2] http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2015/XDC2015-Video-Waiver.pdf ___ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
XDC2015: Tentative schedule posted
Hi all, XDC2015, is less than a week a way! I have posted a tentative schedule on the wiki[1]. If you are a speaker and have questions about the schedule or want to request a new time slot, please let me know. I will do my best, but I may not be able to accommodate everyone's request. Each presentation has been given a 45 minute time slot. This allows for 5 minutes of setup time, 30-35 minutes of presentation time and 5-10 minutes of questions. Presenters, if you think you will need more time, let me know. We will have a projector with VGA, HDMI, and Mini-DP connectors. If your laptop does not support any of these connector types, you will need to bring your own adapter. Looking forward to seeing everyone next week. Thanks, Tom [1] http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2015/Program/ ___ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
XDC2015: Call for papers
Hello, I have the pleasure to announce that the X.org Developer Conference 2015 will be held in Toronto, Canada from September 16 to September 18. The venue is located at Seneca College's campus at York University. The official page for the event is http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2015 while the call for paper is at http://www.x.org/wiki/Other/Press/CFP2015/ As usual, we are open to talks across the layers of the graphics stack, from the kernel to desktop environments / graphical applications and about how to make things better for the developers who build them. If you're not sure if something might fit, mail me or add it to the ideas list found in the program page. The conference is free of charge and opened to the general public. If you plan on coming, please add yourself to the attendees list. We'll use this list to make badges and plan for the catering, so if you are attending please add your name as early as possible. I am looking forward to seeing you there, if you have any inquiries/questions, please send them to me (please also CC: board at foundation.x.org). Tom Stellard ___ wayland-devel mailing list wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
