Toilet water
Regarding toilet, Also, I always wondered why perfume was called Toilet Water? Anyone know why that is? Many people don't realize that using toilet water could be very dangerous. I had a serious injury while using toilet water. The lid fell down and hit me on the head. Oh well Bob Purlear Nc ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
my chocolate covered peanuts story
It's not just girl behavior. In the fourth grade I was in Kentfield, CA, and a big treat was to get some Blum's mints. I think it was a San Francisco company. Anyway one day I had a Blums mint--each one was square and came in a plastic envelope--and for some reason we were eating lunch in the classroom. Doug Fleming, the little boy who sat in front of me, turned around, took my mint, licked it and tried to give it back to me. Mayberry experiences are universal, regardless of a child's gender. Martha, the still offended Huntsville, AL ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
toilet water
Also, I always wondered why perfume was called Toilet Water? Anyone know why that is? Back in the olden days, to get washed up and dressed was called making one's toilet. Toilet water is a lightly scented perfume. It would compare to body spray or splash today. Kind behind the eyes ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Re: Observations
Interesting observations, Kirk. One type of discontinuity that I always enjoy pointing out (in TAGS or anything else) is when the angle of one actor's head or the look on his face will be slightly different when the camera angle changes. So maybe Andy will have a slight smile on his face in one shot, but then a split second later when the angle changes, the smile has completely disappeared. They are always extremely minor shifts, but they stick out just enough to remind you that it's not real life. I'll have to point out what I mean next time I see it. I do recall that one such inter-angle discontinuity occurs in Barney's First Car when the whole gang is outside the car just about to get in (but I can't remember what it is). -a deceitful wretch hiding out in Oxford, Ohio (the Nashville of the North) This is just some of the things I notice including the lack of continuum. Like when Clara Edwards and Emma Watson have different names or when Barney messes up his hair, but the next scene has his hair combed. Things like that. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Re: camera angles
In a message dated 7/12/2009 11:01:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, wbmutbb-requ...@wbmutbb.com writes: When Andy asks him what he would say when he is soaking his feet at night, the camera angle is at the upper left hand of the courthouse by the filing cabinet. It shows Barney upclose with Andy in the background and gives a much more intimate approach. Especially when he tells Andy he thinks Thelma Lou is the Cats! I remember seeing this and thinking it has a lot in common with the daytime soaps and prime time dramas of that period of time. Not so much in comedy. You're right, TAGS was very creative with its camera angles. Sometimes it's for dramatic reasons, and sometimes it's for satirical effect, like the High Noon shot of Barney confidently strutting across the street. They used that one in two different episodes. There's also the overhead shot (along the same lines) just after Barney declares Mayberry as Gateway to danger! Dixon **Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
andy in paris
Thanks for everyone who wrote to tell me how we know Andy was in France, regarding his comment to Peggy over dinner, perhaps Andy's military unit(presuming he was in the military) was in France but never in Paris...Andrew McKenzie Ok since I started this fiasco last week I think it only right that I put a lid on it. We know Andy was in the military we know he was in france and we know he was in Paris 1. In 'Ellie Comnes To Town' The show opens with Andy letting Aunt Bee into the drugstore. He picks up a bottle of toilet water and takes a whiff reading the label and commenting it came from Paris. Thehe says. 'I WAS OVER THERE DURING THE WAR. IT'S A REAL NICE SMELLING CITY. 2. In the episode 'A Feud is a Feud' Andy says he learned how to count in French, Quote : 'I LEARNED SOME FRENCH WHEN I WAS OVER THERE DURING THE WAR' Twice he said he was over there during the war and he knows Paris is a sweet smelling city SO HE MUST HAVE BEEN IN PARIS FRANCE. 3. We know he has been sheriff at this time for 12 years . 1960 - 12 = 1948. Assuming he just didnt walk off the boat and become sheriff if we give him a year to campaign that gets us to 1947 when he returned. Assuming he may have been drafted he entered the service in 1945 or late 1944. Now what else do we need to know about this subject. To believe a civilian would just go to Paris France as a tourist during the war is Obtuse and ludricous thinking. Vic ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Barney out of uniform
Can anyone tell me how many times Barney was seen in clothes other than his uniform and his 'old salt and pepper'. I think once was when he came to the second class reunion. Is there anymore ? Vic ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
repeat character vs. new
Instead of wishing we could see more of a certain character on TAGS which aint gonna happen because there aint no more Lets think of some stars that would be good in the TAGS roles if they were to make a big screen movie like they did with The Beverly Hillbillies and The Brady Bunch, The Addams Family Dukes of Hazzard and Dennis The Menace. I think I might like to see Meg Ryan in a Thelma Lou role and maybe Demi moore as helen Ok thats a start put your bucket on and give it a 'Thank' Vic ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Toilet Water....
Happy to report that I have an authoritative source to help answer the toilet water question. The authority is my wife who taught high school French or 20+ years and speaks the language fluently. Toilette (the French spelling adds another T) originally referred to a person's morning grooming procedure; combing of hair, brushing of teeth, washing all over, etc. The washing part was, of course, accomplished with a cloth and basin of water. In the south of France many flowers are grown and at some point they decided it would be a good idea to distill some of their pretty fragrancesand add this nice smelling liquid to the water they used during their morning toilette procedure. As we learn nearly everything worth knowing by watching TAGS, in one episode Andy told us about what a good smell-in' country it was, remember? Anyway, at some point, instead of adding the nice smelling toilette water to their bathing water, a more concentrated version was used to sprinkle on your body after washing up. My wife also lets me know the difference between toilette water, cologne and perfume. And for you men out there, this is important. Each of the three smell good, but it's a matter of concentration. Toilette water is the most diluted and the least expensive. Cologne is less diluted and more expensive. Perfume is the strongest stuff and the most expensive. My wife tells me women know this and judge accordingly when received as a gift. Hence: toilette water bottles BIG; perfume bottles TINY. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Camera angles
Also the camers angles during most sitcoms during that period of time were very standard. Most epiosodes like I Love Lucy and Leave it to Beaver and others use a straight on approach with floor mounted cameras, as if you were watching a game show or something. On Andy Griffith they use various angles that give it a great feel and depth to the scenery. Kirk, I have noticed this, too -- very effective. In addition to the examples you mentioned, there are a number of times that a very low camera angle is used to make someone appear more authoritarian or confident, such as in Barney Gets His Man after Barney inadvertently knocks down the escaped convict and then goes swaggering down the street. Or a high camera angle to make someone appear smaller or at a disadvantage, such as in Lawman Barney when Barney confronts the farmers selling produce for the last time. The camera is shooting down from a high angle to show how much smaller Barney is than Matt and Neil, the farmers. This angle accentuates his bravery and determination in holding them to the law, despite their physical threats. Or, here's another very effective one. During Man in a Hurry when Mr. Tucker is trying to use the phone and getting frustrated by the Mendlebright sisters, the camera is shooting from a high enough angle to get Mr. Tucker in the foreground while also getting Andy and Barney (and, I think, Opie) in the background at the table. So we see simultaneously Mr. Tucker's frustration and the others' calm acceptance of the situation -- plus Barney's great line, I wonder what causes that? I don't know if TAGS ever won any Emmy awards for camera work, but it should have. Thelma Lou (Janet) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
Toilet water
Also, I always wondered why perfume was called Toilet Water? Anyone know why that is? Kirk, having two degrees in French and having been a French teacher, I think can answer that for you. Toilet water is a literal translation of the French eau de toilette. It comes from the expression faire sa toilette, which is literally translated to make one's toilet, but actually refers to getting dressed, brushing the hair, putting on makeup, etc. -- in other words, preparing your physical appearance for the day. Applying cologne (scented water) is part of that process, hence the name. Thelma Lou (Janet) ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/
re: Sweet Lydia
Whoops! Of course Lydia's last name is Crosswaithe. Boy is my face red. Anyway, Bob I hope you have fun on your date. ___ WBMUTBB mailing list WBMUTBB@wbmutbb.com http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/