Helen's demeanor.

[randymcf]

It seems to me that anytime Helen lost her cool it was because Andy either did 
something or failed to tell the entire truth about something. My experience is 
that seems to set off any woman. Remember when he told Ellie what a silly idea 
it was for a woman to run for city council? He also set her off about the 
beauty contest.RandyIn Indiana


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Andy and Helen

[Elizabeth Busby]

Randy, I have been thinking about the same thing after reading the Andy and
Don book. I wonder if some of this on the show was a slight carry over from
their real life relationship. I wonder if Andy had any input on the scripts
of these shows. Elizabeth in Ga
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Preaching

[Paul Pyle]

As a "preachers kid" who experienced a preachers life (46 years in ministry)
throughout eastern and south eastern Ohio, I've seen years of variations on
this. It really is not only a regional term but a generational term that is
seldom heard today. In my experience I most often heard people refer to my
father as "Reverend Pyle" except for the time spent as a Captain in the
Salvation Army. The time I most often heard my father addressed as
"Preacher" was from people who would have been considered my father's elders
(generational). I often heard "Going to preaching" in the 50's and early
60's in my life, and it just meant going to church.

Times have certainly changed, becoming more informal. Never hear 'Reverend'
anymore (as least in Protestant circles), being replaced by the more
informal "Pastor." I suspect that "Preacher" and "preaching" is more often
heard in the south today.

Paul Pyle
Quiet Sam


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Preaching

[Sonya Palmer]

As was mentioned by others, preaching was a term that was used to differentiate 
the sermon portion of Sunday morning services from Sunday school.  Today the 
more commonly used term is worship service, but that didn't seem to gain 
popularity until the last 20 years or so.  Preaching is probably used more 
frequently in the south. 
Sonya Palmer
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Re: Writer's blips

[Randy]

Subject: writer's blips

"Has anyone else noticed how very controlling Helen could be and that 
Andy let her get away with it? I've been watching some color episodes 
that I taped recently and found this disturbing as I feel it is out of 
character for Andy. When she was first introduced to the show she was 
rather a humble, lady-like woman. However, even tho Andy should've been 
more forthright, in the episode where he had to confer with the lady 
attorney in Raleigh, she is downright nasty and not the least bit 
mindful about embarrassing Lee Drake and then very snide at the end. 
Again, in the episode where she wants to get Howard and the new nurse 
together, she is flat-out demanding and mean to Andy till he caves in.  
And why didn't she reveal her scrape with the law in Kansas City to Andy 
before he had to inadvertently discover it for himself? I feel these 
instances were poor mistakes made by the writers fumbling for new 
storylines.  Just my two cents worth.

Aunt Bee of Orlando"
I agree. Helen is my least favorite character on the show. She is not very 
"Mayberry-like". Have you read the book "Andy and Don"? It appears that in real 
life Andy allowed himself to be dominated by demanding women, including Aneta 
Coursaut.
Randy of Sevierville

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Character growth

[Daniel Santos]

Think of all the characters that evolved thru out the show. In addition to 
Goober...his cousin Gomer started out as a gas jockey became a master mechanic 
and eventually joined the Marines.  Barney started as Andy's cousin who was 
chosen deputy, and moved on to the big city police department where he was in 
charge of fingerprints than went on to his dream job of being a detective 
though a slightly inept one. Sam the farmer went on to be on the town council 
as did Howard and Ellie the first woman councilman. Andy himself married and 
moved on to the big city.
Can anyone think of any others.

Johnna Santos
Fayetteville, AR
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Re: Writer's blips

[Janet Anderson]

>>>Has anyone else noticed how very controlling Helen could be and that
Andy let her get away with it? I've been watching some color episodes
that I taped recently and found this disturbing as I feel it is out of
character for Andy. When she was first introduced to the show she was
rather a humble, lady-like woman. However, even tho Andy should've been
more forthright, in the episode where he had to confer with the lady
attorney in Raleigh, she is downright nasty and not the least bit
mindful about embarrassing Lee Drake and then very snide at the end.
Again, in the episode where she wants to get Howard and the new nurse
together, she is flat-out demanding and mean to Andy till he caves in.
And why didn't she reveal her scrape with the law in Kansas City to Andy
before he had to inadvertently discover it for himself? I feel these
instances were poor mistakes made by the writers fumbling for new
storylines.  Just my two cents worth.<<<

Aunt Bee, you really got me thinking about this.  It's true that, although we 
saw some signs of Helen's temper in the black and white years, we also saw a 
lot of her gentle and understanding side.  In fact, in one of the episodes (I 
think it was "Man in the Middle"), Andy tells Barney that he didn't think Helen 
could give anybody a rough time.  However, in the color years, it seems we see 
more of her temper and more conflicts between her and Andy.  I have a theory 
about this.  In the black and white episodes, Barney was often the source of 
conflict in the story line, but when he was no longer there, someone else had 
to be the source of conflict.  (After all, without a problem or conflict, there 
*is* no story.)  The other characters had to pick up the slack, you might say.  
I think this is why we see more conflict between Andy and Helen in the color 
years.  As to why he put up with it, there may be two reasons.  One is that 
Andy really didn't enjoy conflict.  Some people will cave in 
 just as a way of avoiding conflict.  Also, Andy seemed more at ease with 
conflict with other men.  When it came to women, he didn't like to be 
confrontational.  He preferred to placate them.  Of course, there were also 
differences in the writers and how they presented the characters.  But those 
are my thoughts, anyway.


Thelma Lou

(Janet)
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