[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update
-Original Message- From: Sheila Fenelon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update Bj wrote: Joseph, you almost make me want to write a php book just for you, however I am sure there are good ones out there. If anyone knows of good PHP book, for beginners, please speak up. I get asked this question all the time. The O'Reilly book might be OK but it's 2 yrs old now and PHP has changed a lot in that time. That's another problem with publishing books on web technology, things change and traditional books go out of date quickly. Sheila -- Julie C Meloni, PHP fast easy web development 2nd edition. Premier Press. Meeting BJ's requirements. Larry Ullman, PHP for the World Wide Web, Peachpit Press. Larry Ullman PHP Advanced for the World Wide Web, Peachpit Press. The companion volume for the first. Although I actually haven't gotten this one yet. And Shelia's Eclectic Academy course is a solid, simple introduction. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP
Paul, If that will help; though I was just thinking that, if you can give me the line number (and paste the line itself so I know to look at the right one) I can send back what is in my php.ini. This was set by the installation program, and might at least give you pointers to solve the problem. [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want to send off-line. Joseph -- or I could send my php.ini. Whichever you prefer Paul. Joseph, You want me to send you my php.ini off-list? Paul | -Original Message- | From: Smile-Poet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:54 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP | | | Paul, | | Would it be likely to help if I checked what the installation | put in my | php.ini (apache, MySQL, PHP as EasyPHP1-7); you would have | to give me the | line number. | | Joseph | | - Original Message - | From: Paul Larue [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:47 AM | Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP | | | Still doesn't work. Thanks for the try! | | Anybody has a suggestion ? | | Thanks | | Paul | | | -Original Message- | | From: Jon Haworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:16 PM | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: [PHP] problems with php.ini - HELP | | | | | | Paul, | | | | Nope, doesn't work. I need to state the whole | | /inetpub/wwwroot/ path | | stuff to get it working... / only doesn't do it... | | | | If it's a Windows server, you'll need to specify a | Windows path. Try | | something like this (adjusted for your system, obviously): | | | | include_path = C:\inetpub\wwwroot | | | | Cheers | | Jon | | | | | | . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . | | To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Send Your Posts | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the | | email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest | | version: | | http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub | | | | http://www.wdvl.com ___ | | | | You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] To | | unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% | | | | To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: | Jupitermedia | | Corp. | | Attn: Discussion List Management | | 475 Park Avenue South | | New York, NY 10016 | | | | Please include the email address which you have been | contacted with. | | | | | . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . | To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To set a personal password send an email to | [EMAIL PROTECTED] with | the | words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. | To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: | http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub | | http://www.wdvl.com ___ | | You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% | | To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia | Corp. | Attn: Discussion List Management | 475 Park Avenue South | New York, NY 10016 | | Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. | | | | . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . | To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] |Send Your Posts | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To set a personal password send an email to | [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK | pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change | subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: | http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub | | http://www.wdvl.com ___ | | You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to | %%email.unsub%% | | To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: | Jupitermedia Corp. | Attn: Discussion List Management | 475 Park Avenue South | New York, NY 10016 | | Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. | . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub
[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update
Folks, This is the book I'm working off. PHP and MySQL Web Development, 2nd edition Luke Welling, Laura Thomson I'm managing to work through it happily enough and would recommend it based on progress so far, i.e. about page 200. John. john.f.hughes Goodbody Stockbrokers Private Clients Ballsbridge Park + 353 1 6416048 This information is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by any other person (except any person authorised by the addressee to deliver this message to him and only for that purpose) is unauthorised. If you are not the addressee you are prohibited from disclosing its content, copying it or distributing it otherwise than to the addressee. Please notify us immediately if you received this e-mail and you are not the addressee and did not receive it to pass to the addressee. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you should not place any reliance on its contents. If you e-mail information to us or receive e-mail from us you should be aware that we cannot give any assurance about the security or confidentiality of any e-mail. We cannot accept responsibility for any loss which may arise to any person as a direct or indirect result of all or any part of any e-mail becoming known by anyone other than the recipient. This Disclaimer has been generated by CMDis The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update
drew, That's an impressive list. But are these for true beginners, or for people with other coding skills? I think php is so flexible, relatively easy, and developing so fast that people will be going straight to it, rather than adding it after the hard slog of learning and using serious coding. (That's a compliment folks, and a touching of the forelock - if i still had one - to the professionalism of this list.) The web is still expanding very fast. The nature of it encourages people to dive in and get on with it. Like me many will want to implement practical projects rather than become php pupils per se. That was the attraction of the book I have been tripping up on. That book also reveals (through its failures) better ways to do it. And many will not want to, or not be able to, attend classes. (I've just realised how hard I'm selling the idea. It must be because I have experienced how well you all teach) Joseph -Original Message- From: Sheila Fenelon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: PHP book update Bj wrote: Joseph, you almost make me want to write a php book just for you, however I am sure there are good ones out there. If anyone knows of good PHP book, for beginners, please speak up. I get asked this question all the time. The O'Reilly book might be OK but it's 2 yrs old now and PHP has changed a lot in that time. That's another problem with publishing books on web technology, things change and traditional books go out of date quickly. Sheila -- -- -- Julie C Meloni, PHP fast easy web development 2nd edition. Premier Press. Meeting BJ's requirements. Larry Ullman, PHP for the World Wide Web, Peachpit Press. Larry Ullman PHP Advanced for the World Wide Web, Peachpit Press. The companion volume for the first. Although I actually haven't gotten this one yet. And Shelia's Eclectic Academy course is a solid, simple introduction. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] marketing group
Due to still being strung across two machines (carrying bits one-by-one is slow work ;-)) I don't have to hand the address of the nascent marketing group. I thought this might be a good place to discuss my book idea if enough people are interested. Can anyone send me the email address for the group. Many thanks Joseph The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
I've been pout all day so before I went I closed down my broadband, closed all programs and set off a full system scan. The report when I came back was that it was clean - so it seems that David's suggestion is probably right. I thought it was odd as I sue Eudora and not OE for all emails and that doesn't usually get infected. (Sure, there's always going to be a first time!) Just one point on this - do you guys and gals run a full system check while working, or do you leave the machine dedicated to the job? A full scan for me takes about five hours so having to shut down when I am here is a real PITA. I always have some non-computer work I can do, but that length of time takes some filling! Peter MacGregor At 10:21 06/04/2004, you wrote: It was remiss of me to resend the email with the text version of the URL, one of the reasons why code words are used,lol, however neither Joseph's email nor my response contain anything other than plain text, which if over zealous Norton had been a little more discriminating, it would have recognised Something I discovered way back when the I L U virus was current, when I had a text version to study, and it wiped it unasked g*2 www.WellingtonLive.co.nz - Original Message - From: David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 8:17 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!! : : your reply is infected. : Norton Antivirus quarantined it but I couldn't even click on the : message header to delete it. : Please everyone. scan and clean as needed. : : : I don't believe it is infected - I think it's NAV getting scared because : the posts from Joseph + Michael contained the URL which is normally : contained within the email to do its dirty tricks, however the emails : themselves aren't actually infected with anything. : : Of course exploits like this are what happens when you use crappy email : clients with massive security holes. g : : Cheers : : Dave P : : : : -- : David Precious : http://www.preshweb.co.uk/ : : : . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . : To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. : To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: : http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub : : http://www.wdvl.com ___ : : You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% : : To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: : Jupitermedia Corp. : Attn: Discussion List Management : 475 Park Avenue South : New York, NY 10016 : : Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. : : --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.651 / Virus Database: 417 - Release Date: 5/04/04 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
do you guys and gals run a full system check while working, or do you leave the machine dedicated to the job? i got some kind of symantec software when i first purchased this computer, but did not renew after the first year, so i haven't run a virus scan in approx two years rather than open all the doors wide and have virus scanning software try to stop stuff from coming through (or, as you guys seem to do, run a scan once in a while to see if anything did get through), i simply don't allow bad sh1t to get through thusly: i don't allow activex to run in IE (goodbye flash -- too bad, that's life) i don't allow OE to show html mail (goodbye web bugs -- yay!!!) i don't open attachments from anybody ever helps? rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
- Original Message - From: rudy i don't allow activex to run in IE i don't allow OE to show html mail (goodbye web bugs -- yay!!!) i don't open attachments Sooner or later, you have to run somebody else's executable code. A new browser, a word processor, an ftp program, a file compression utility, .NET Framework... and even people as careful and security-conscious as Microsoft (what's that smiley for 'tongue-in-cheek'?) have been known to send out official software releases on CD that are virus infected. So you are still not quite safe without on-access file scanning. I guess I am nearly as careful as you... AND I run Norton Anti-Virus with daily updates. Just in case I ever do slip up. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
Sooner or later, you have to run somebody else's executable code. no, i do not rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
I agree BJ. As a consultant I have clients that want me to review contracts, specifications and all sorts of other documents - including items they want me to put on their websites for them! If I wasn't opening attachments I'd starve to death very quickly. I'm afraid I fail to see the point of having access to the web and email if you aren't going to receive - either via download or from clients etc - documents as attachments. I certainly don't open any for strangers and like you I update NAV regularly. I also run Zone Alarm plus check with Uncle Bill about every ten days (when I get a quiet moment!) for any updates. New clients have to advise me first by phone of their email address and are told to which of mine they should send stuff until I am happy with them. I also tell them I want to know which version of their AV they are using (I then check the supplier site to see if it is current) and when they last updated Windows. Usually produces some long silences followed by a question such as How do you mean? or words to that effect! Peter MacGregor At 17:28 06/04/2004, you wrote: - Original Message - From: rudy i don't allow activex to run in IE i don't allow OE to show html mail (goodbye web bugs -- yay!!!) i don't open attachments Sooner or later, you have to run somebody else's executable code. A new browser, a word processor, an ftp program, a file compression utility, .NET Framework... and even people as careful and security-conscious as Microsoft (what's that smiley for 'tongue-in-cheek'?) have been known to send out official software releases on CD that are virus infected. So you are still not quite safe without on-access file scanning. I guess I am nearly as careful as you... AND I run Norton Anti-Virus with daily updates. Just in case I ever do slip up. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
I'm afraid I fail to see the point of having access to the web and email if you aren't going to receive - either via download or from clients etc - documents as attachments. you've swallowed the microsoft philosophy hook, line, and sinker web = html, email = text anything else is evil who says a document has to be in a format that might contain some worm or virus? who says? anybody already assimilated by the microsoft borg include me out oh, and before you say you're nuts let me tell you right away that yes, i do get people sending me Word docs too i just don't open them in Word, i open them in a Word viewer, where they remain harmless rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
oh, and before you say you're nuts let me tell you right away that yes, i do get people sending me Word docs too i just don't open them in Word, i open them in a Word viewer, where they remain harmless rudy - Microsoft Word Viewer? Word Viewer ? Linux? drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
Microsoft Word Viewer? yep http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9BBB9E60-E4F3-436D-A5A7-DA0E5431E5C1displaylang=EN rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
by the way, microsoft also has viewers for its other PROPRIETARY formats -- http://www.microsoft.com/office/000/viewers.asp rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
- Original Message - From: rudy Sooner or later, you have to run somebody else's executable code. no, i do not Apologies, Rudy, I was thinking of us ordinary people, who don't even have the talent, let alone the time, to write their own operating system and macro assembler in hex code and burn them onto an eprom, entering each byte of code through a hex keypad, then use the assembler to code their own browser, email client, text editor, graphics package, all hardware device drivers, etc. from scratch... on the other hand, are you *sure* you never execute anyone else's code? ;o) The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
[snip some fairy tale] ... are you *sure* you never execute anyone else's code? ;o) if it is emailed to me, no, never if i choose to download it from a reputable site, then of course e.g. http://www.kaylon.com/power.html but that's not what we were talking about we were talking about virus scanning and why would you need to virus scan reputable software? rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
- Original Message - From: rudy and why would you need to virus scan reputable software? Because there have been occasions when very reputable software has been released on official CD and found to have been sent out with a virus infection. Ok, I don't recall this having happened very recently, but that just means it's overdue to happen again! Here are some Googled examples from a few years back: A Japanese-language version of a Sega Dreamcast role-playing game has become infected with a computer virus. The game, Atelier Marie, includes a screensaver which is infected with the highly damaging Kriz virus. Although the Dreamcast itself is left unscathed by this, anyone loading the screensaver onto their PC from the game's CD-ROM will be in for an unpleasant surprise, when the virus activates on Christmas Day. (The Reguster, 2001) A red-faced Corel has confirmed that a number of its recently released CorelDRAW 8.0 for Macintosh CD-ROMs also contained a virus. (1998) We have received notice from the UK publication Virus Bulletin and a number of independent reports that the UK publication PC Gamer included a cover CD with files infected by the Win95/Marburg virusThe smackplw.exe infected file will get executed if you watch any of the movies on the CD (1998) The free Vellum 3D version 3.0 CD-ROM contains the Macintosh MBDF virus. ...Anyone running the Macintosh demo program who does not have a resident antivirus scanner will be infected with the virus. (CIAC, 1997) We have come across another Microsoft CD ROM containing Concept, a MSWord macro virus. The CD ROM is called The Microsoft Office 95 and Windows 95 Business Guide. (SS, 1995) In 1995, the first Word macro virus -- now called Concept -- was massively distributed by Microsoft on a CD-ROM called Microsoft Windows 95 Software Compatibility Test. The shipment went to hundreds of companies in August 1995. [1] Microsoft helpfully refused to acknowledge the severity of the problem for a few weeks. When it finally did, it named the virus Prank as spin control. Partly as a consequence of this release and another around the same time in which 5,500 more infected CD-ROMs were distributed by a different company generating support software for Microsoft Windows NT, the Concept virus is now very common in the wild. Much more recently, Microsoft has distributed a word macro virus known as Wazzu multiple times. In September of last year, an edition of Microsoft's The Microsoft SPCD [Solution Provider CD] was distributed containing a Wazzu virus infected document. The CD was distributed to all Microsoft Solution Providers...One month later, Microsoft distributed Wazzu again, this time in Switzerland at ORBIT, an information technology exhibition. This sample of Wazzu was carried on a CD-ROM called Letz Fetz on the Netz and was in a document containing hot-line phone numbers for Microsoft Germany. Although Microsoft officials were informed of the contamination, the CD was distributed anyway. The Wazzu infected document was also downloadable from Microsoft's Swiss Website for a period of five days. (1997) The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 06 April 2004 18:01, rudy wrote: I'm afraid I fail to see the point of having access to the web and email if you aren't going to receive - either via download or from clients etc - documents as attachments. you've swallowed the microsoft philosophy hook, line, and sinker web = html, email = text anything else is evil who says a document has to be in a format that might contain some worm or virus? who says? anybody already assimilated by the microsoft borg Amen rudy! I just dump M$ Office completely and use OpenOffice, it'll still open/save M$ Office files, but without the absolutely cretinous idea of allowing executable code within a document. Why, oh why, oh why does a document need executable code (macros) in it? The only exception would be spreadsheets - in which case, the macro code should be able to change things relating to that document ONLY (to perform calculations etc) and NOTHING else. I use KMail as my email client, without HTML-mode enabled. I also use SpamAssassin and ClamAV to ensure my mail is clean. However, the viruses don't matter to me anyway - I only have ClamAV on my server to save me from downloading big virus attachments then deleting them. Cheers Dave P - -- David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.preshweb.co.uk Common sense is what tells you the world is flat All emails PGP signed - PGP key at: http://www.preshweb.co.uk/aboutme/keys.php -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAcv9Kn5YXkShpEpcRAgY3AKDF58IAjacOosToSvG0H0ZIsv7wFQCggiHz CCG/u1GaW9aaX6/i53e6DFg= =7c/Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: serious action taken -- serious advice!!!
I was able to export both files, yes there were two, to Symantec but have not heard back from their tech team. The first time NAV quarantined a file it gave its name as unknown. The second one it called Bloodhound.Exploit.6 AuntySpam, SLP Coordinator, pspug.org http://www.pspug.org/edu/edu.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/assign.shtml http://www.pspug.org/edu/slp/slpparticipants.htm - Original Message - From: Smile-Poet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 3:11 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] serious action taken -- serious advice!!! Bj et al, I sweated when I read mails of viri passed on by me.But David P must be right; it was repeating the url that was picked up and recognised. I sent it thinking someone may know where it may be acted on to catch the originator. AVG has swept every corner for crumbs (oh, no, that's something else) this a.m. and found nary a thing; ZA sits there grinning. I am concerned that Aunty Spam found this same problem with deleting even after it was quarantined. But, even before following the advice, I have come up clean. I have followed the advice just in case. Go to Tools, Options and click the Read tab. If there's an item Read all messages in plain text, put a check in that and you are a lot safer from virus and worm attacks. Have ticked box - no more pretty pictures then! Go to www.microsoft.com, look on the left hand side for Windows Update and click the link. Get your system patched! Microsoft, he say: There are no critical updates available at this time. Sorry for all the alarm. I realised it was a really nasty one and hadn't had any warning note, from Norton or anywhere else, so thought it might be very new and wanted to alert everyone. Joseph . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: weas [not OT] Serious advice! NOW MSd and Active X
the problem with a lot of MS software ( I was going to say all, but then someone would respond with exceptions) is that they have stood the security procedures on their head and many current ills stem from that e.g. they started with the OLE concept ( Word) and extended this into ActiveX... Instead of say for example with JavaScript (and that is of course not infallible) with your virtual machine restricting what may be run on your computer, Word macros and websites that use ActiveX require that you trust the sender/web site maker, AND that their machines are clean, AND that the website hasn't been hacked and modified AND their motives are pure as the angels. At best Active X allows spyware, at worst identity theft and crashes..and then there are those who won't allow Javascript to run but cheerfully allow ActiveX, lol So if you follow normal security rather than MS approach, I am afraid you don't allow anything that you cannot control.. Why do so many corporate firewalls disallow attachments and html email.see above, lol - Original Message - From: David Precious Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 7:04 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: [not OT] Serious advice!!! : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- : Hash: SHA1 : : On Tuesday 06 April 2004 18:01, rudy wrote: : I'm afraid I fail to see the point of having access to the web : and email if you aren't going to receive - either via : download or from clients etc - documents as attachments. : : you've swallowed the microsoft philosophy hook, line, and sinker : : web = html, email = text : : anything else is evil : : who says a document has to be in a format that might contain some worm : or virus? : : who says? anybody already assimilated by the microsoft borg : : Amen rudy! : : I just dump M$ Office completely and use OpenOffice, it'll still open/save : M$ Office files, but without the absolutely cretinous idea of allowing : executable code within a document. Why, oh why, oh why does a document : need executable code (macros) in it? The only exception would be : spreadsheets - in which case, the macro code should be able to change : things relating to that document ONLY (to perform calculations etc) and : NOTHING else. : : I use KMail as my email client, without HTML-mode enabled. I also use : SpamAssassin and ClamAV to ensure my mail is clean. However, the viruses : don't matter to me anyway - I only have ClamAV on my server to save me : from downloading big virus attachments then deleting them. : : Cheers : : Dave P : : : : : - -- : David Precious : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.preshweb.co.uk : : Common sense is what tells you the world is flat : : : : : All emails PGP signed - PGP key at: : http://www.preshweb.co.uk/aboutme/keys.php : : -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- : Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) : : iD8DBQFAcv9Kn5YXkShpEpcRAgY3AKDF58IAjacOosToSvG0H0ZIsv7wFQCggiHz : CCG/u1GaW9aaX6/i53e6DFg= : =7c/Q : -END PGP SIGNATURE- : : . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . : To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. : To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: : http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub : : http://www.wdvl.com ___ : : You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% : : To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: : Jupitermedia Corp. : Attn: Discussion List Management : 475 Park Avenue South : New York, NY 10016 : : Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. : : : --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.651 / Virus Database: 417 - Release Date: 5/04 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
