Re: [wdvltalk] Link not working in FF

[Drew Trusz]

On 6/30/06, Portman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks Drew. I am a little unclear (no pun intended) on the clearing,
but will do some reading up on it.

Riva


Two major points about positioning and clearing. First is that
absolute and float take elements out of the normal flow of the
document. While the placement of such elements is respected, normal
content will attempt to fill any gaps left by such non-normal blocks.
So when a positioned element doesn't take up the entire width of the
document, the normal content will try to squeeze into the empty space.

A clear will tell the browser to not do that but instead to drop below
the non-normal element.

That would be easy to handle. So just to make it interesting, there
are times when browsers (yes IE is the most egregious) will decide
that floats in particular have no content, no matter what you think
you've put in them. Content of such floats are rendered as normal
flow, with often astonishing visual results. The cure for that is to
put an otherwise empty clear within the float.

While it is possible to deal with the discreet conditions which cause
this in an elegant fashion you should be forewarned that when IE7
arrives, many of these elegant solutions won't function properly. It's
easier to use the industrial strength solution of an empty float
element and bare the shame of being accused of classitis or divitis by
the purists.

A good explanation of floats is found at:

http://www.brainjar.com/css/positioning/


If you want the details of why you have the problem in the first
place, this will do

http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html

There used to be some good pieces on Position is Everything but those
articles now seem to be for sale.

drew

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Re: [wdvltalk] Link not working in FF

[Portman]

Thanks Drew. I am a little unclear (no pun intended) on the clearing, 
but will do some reading up on it.


Riva

Drew Trusz wrote:

I'm a bit behind in my reading so this is a bit late.

The page is having problems in FF1.5 and Opera9. Essentially, the few
links which show are in the header and the area of the page below the
"Links" title is blank. Looks fine in IE.

When I put borders around the headermain, subheader and bodytext, the
boxes are problematic. That is, border doesn't go all the way around
either the headermain or the bodytext.  The subheader is comletely
contained in the border. The links are shoved into the header box.

In a floated design this would be the result of improper clearing.
Your design seems to be primarily absolutely and relatively positioned
elements. Relative is often used to compensate for many IE problems.
If that's what you've done, it's created severe problems in other
browsers.  Nonetheless, if anything is floated, you might want to
check that it is properly cleared. Drop in a few clearing elements and
see if it helps.

Drew


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Re: [wdvltalk] Link not working in FF

[Drew Trusz]

On 6/27/06, Portman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

I find that a link on a page is not working in FF. I validated the CSS
and the HTML and it works in IE but I cannot figure out why it is not
working. It is the link on the word "here" in Choose a body part for
quick links or click here
 for more
detailed links. Any help would be much appreciated.


I'm a bit behind in my reading so this is a bit late.

The page is having problems in FF1.5 and Opera9. Essentially, the few
links which show are in the header and the area of the page below the
"Links" title is blank. Looks fine in IE.

When I put borders around the headermain, subheader and bodytext, the
boxes are problematic. That is, border doesn't go all the way around
either the headermain or the bodytext.  The subheader is comletely
contained in the border. The links are shoved into the header box.

In a floated design this would be the result of improper clearing.
Your design seems to be primarily absolutely and relatively positioned
elements. Relative is often used to compensate for many IE problems.
If that's what you've done, it's created severe problems in other
browsers.  Nonetheless, if anything is floated, you might want to
check that it is properly cleared. Drop in a few clearing elements and
see if it helps.

Drew

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[wdvltalk] Link not working in FF

[Portman]

Hi all,

I find that a link on a page is not working in FF. I validated the CSS 
and the HTML and it works in IE but I cannot figure out why it is not 
working. It is the link on the word "here" in Choose a body part for 
quick links or click here 
 for more 
detailed links. Any help would be much appreciated.


Thanks,
Riva
http://www.starqualitydesigns.com/BestHealth/

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