[wdvltalk] RE: SharePoint as an intranet

2004-06-04 Thread Furry, Tim
Howard and ravenstudio2, thanks for your comments.  I've used STS before
as collaboration software and was pretty happy with it in that mode, but
I agree that it just doesn't seem suited for informational sites.

Sean, I know it's expensive and overkill.  :-)  Since I'm growing wiser
with age, I'm not commenting further at this point on that particular
detail.  :-)  :-)  But thanks a bunch for the CM links, I'll be looking
at them today.  I've hardwired a website for content management on our
current site that feeds a database but am looking for other ideas as
well.

Will - I'm mailing you offlist.  Thanks for the info.

Tim

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[wdvltalk] RE: SharePoint as an intranet

2004-06-03 Thread lists
Tim

We are currently experimenting with a hosted version of Sharepoint. It's
working very well for us, but it's not replacing anything that exists. The
purpose of the site is wholly collaboration-calendaring, issue lists, shared
documents and discussions.

What's working best for us? There is absolutely 0 resistance to using the
thing. The ease of use for the end user is tremendous. If they have Office
2003 it's very compelling. But our use of the tool is it's original
intention, collaboration software.

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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:11 PM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] SharePoint as an intranet

Has anyone used Microsoft's Sharepoint 2003 to build an intranet?  I'm not
talking about the Team Services part, but the Portal.  It's being highly
recommended by powers that be that I use it to build a replacement intranet
for our company.

The more I research it the more it looks like a bad fit.  Our intranet
currently consists of things like: office information (addresses, etc.
for our three offices); human resources online forms (things like W-4 for
taxes, etc.); lists of committee members, telephone numbers, boards, etc.;
introductory pages for new people; maps of the main office (we have three
floors of a large building); policies such as dress code, assignment flow,
etc.; office procedural guidelines; equipment manuals for operating various
office machines; a weekly newsletter; a small application that the
receptionists use to track where people are; and access-limited links to
various small apps that I've built.

SPS provides...er...um...document management and indexing (supposed to be
very good at this), list management (lists of links, lists of announcements,
lists of tasks, etc.), and...um...hmmm.  If you tack on the Team Services
part you can add more announcements, tasks, and a sort of file storage that
really stores things in a database (MSDE)...which means if the MSDE corrupts
(not likely, but still...) you can't recover any of your files (unlike a
real file system where you could probably recover most of them if it
corrupted).

I've been searching all morning for intranet solutions built on SPS but am
not having much luck finding anything where our model fits into their model.
Is it just me, or is there a serious difference in how things are set up?  I
know I can convert all our forms, policies, maps, people lists, etc. into
documents and store them as documents, etc., but doesn't that sort of end up
like using a bulldozer to pull a weed?

*ANY* responses with any SPS exposure greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Tim

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[wdvltalk] RE: SharePoint as an intranet

2004-06-03 Thread William Stewart
Hi Tim,

I have a buddy whose business right now is instructional classes in
Sharepoint.  He may be able to answer some of your questions.  Email me
off list if you are interested in his contact info.

HTH,
Will Stewart

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From: Furry, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 12:11 PM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] SharePoint as an intranet


Has anyone used Microsoft's Sharepoint 2003 to build an intranet?  I'm
not talking about the Team Services part, but the Portal.  It's being
highly recommended by powers that be that I use it to build a
replacement intranet for our company.

The more I research it the more it looks like a bad fit.  Our intranet
currently consists of things like: office information (addresses, etc.
for our three offices); human resources online forms (things like W-4
for taxes, etc.); lists of committee members, telephone numbers, boards,
etc.; introductory pages for new people; maps of the main office (we
have three floors of a large building); policies such as dress code,
assignment flow, etc.; office procedural guidelines; equipment manuals
for operating various office machines; a weekly newsletter; a small
application that the receptionists use to track where people are; and
access-limited links to various small apps that I've built.

SPS provides...er...um...document management and indexing (supposed to
be very good at this), list management (lists of links, lists of
announcements, lists of tasks, etc.), and...um...hmmm.  If you tack on
the Team Services part you can add more announcements, tasks, and a sort
of file storage that really stores things in a database (MSDE)...which
means if the MSDE corrupts (not likely, but still...) you can't recover
any of your files (unlike a real file system where you could probably
recover most of them if it corrupted).

I've been searching all morning for intranet solutions built on SPS but
am not having much luck finding anything where our model fits into their
model.  Is it just me, or is there a serious difference in how things
are set up?  I know I can convert all our forms, policies, maps, people
lists, etc. into documents and store them as documents, etc., but
doesn't that sort of end up like using a bulldozer to pull a weed?

*ANY* responses with any SPS exposure greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Tim

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[wdvltalk] RE: SharePoint as an intranet

2004-06-03 Thread sean diggins
Sharepoint 2003 is expensive, not only the app, but the system requirements.
It needs it's own server - cannot be on the same server as Exchange, for
example. 
Good for large organisations with a gazillion documents, particularly when
intranet/internet/extranet are all mixed into the portal. For plain vanilla
intranet, it's overkill, big time.

You may want to consider content management solutions, such as 
WUB and eWebEdit:

http://www.xemico.com/wub/

http://www.ektron.com/ewebeditpro.aspx

ie, build the intranet, then staff can easily edit it later.

TeamIntel is nice...

http://www.virtualglobal.com/

Sean


 




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