RE:[wdvltalk] frames and titles
You want a fixed footer? One which is always visible. Use absolute positioning for bottom, left. Here are some quick tutorials. The first is just the footer. The second and third for faux frames using css. The fourth is so I can name drop; although it is a very good and complete site for fixed positioning (if you have to do that sort of thing) http://limpid.nl/lab/css/fixed/footer http://www.webreference.com/programming/css_frames/index.html http://www.cssplay.co.uk/layouts/basics2.html http://annevankesteren.nl/2004/07/fixed-positioning drew � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] frames and titles
So you want a scrolling center section so that the page always has a fixed height? Is that what you mean? The type of layout you appear to be using is called a 'letterbox' which reached its peak of popularity in the late 90s. Shudder, sorry but I really dislike having a limited box that scrolls sized for an 800x600 window since that means your content area can at most be around 300px high by the time you allow for browser chrome, toolbars, address bars, the masthead and footer areas. Yet you can't assume your visitors will have higher resolution browsers because people on higher resolution monitors tend not to browse full screen or have sidebars open, etc. Cheryl D. Wise MS FrontPage MVP Certified Professional Web Developer Start to Web's newest online class - Introduction to CSS starts January 8, 2006 See http://starttoweb.com -Original Message- From: Jennifer Severn OK, I mean "always visible". If it's just at the bottom of the page it's only there when you scroll all the way down. If the footer is always visible there's always navigation, even in the middle of a very long page. Jen The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE:[wdvltalk] frames and titles
OK, I mean "always visible". If it's just at the bottom of the page it's only there when you scroll all the way down. If the footer is always visible there's always navigation, even in the middle of a very long page. Jen � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] frames and titles
Lf the info is at the bottom of every page ten isn't it "always there"? I don it understand the distinction. Cheryl D. Wise MS FrontPage MVP Certified Professional Web Developer Online instructor led training in FrontPage, Web Accessibility & Illustrator See http://starttoweb.com -Original Message- From: Jennifer Well today the designer changed the links from text to images and suddenly there's no problem, except of course those problems inherent in frames. I thought of just placing the footer at the bottom of each HTML page but the client was adamant about having it "always there". In the future I'll try to steer them off it. Thanks to all, Jen The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE:[wdvltalk] frames and titles
Well today the designer changed the links from text to images and suddenly there's no problem, except of course those problems inherent in frames. I thought of just placing the footer at the bottom of each HTML page but the client was adamant about having it "always there". In the future I'll try to steer them off it. Thanks to all, Jen � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] frames and titles
What little experience I've had with Net Objects Fusion was not a positive one so I can't comment on how to do using that program. You can always use SSI for the language supported by your web host. Otherwise you can simply copy the footer to the bottom of each page. To maintain it if you choose that way I suspect there is some sort of find and replace in the program. Cheryl D. Wise MS FrontPage MVP Certified Professional Web Developer Online instructor led training in FrontPage, Web Accessibility & Illustrator See http://starttoweb.com -Original Message- From: Jennifer Severn Thanks Cheryl. Our designer uses Net Objects Fusion - does anyone know the best way to place a page footer in that? I'm not familiar with it, don't know any wysiwygs. Would love to get out of the frame habit. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE:[wdvltalk] frames and titles
Thanks Cheryl. Our designer uses Net Objects Fusion - does anyone know the best way to place a page footer in that? I'm not familiar with it, don't know any wysiwygs. Would love to get out of the frame habit. Jen � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
RE: [wdvltalk] frames and titles
SSI for the footer or if you are using Dreamweaver either a library item or DWT. If using FrontPage a DWT or an include is an answer. GoLive has something similar but I am blanking out on the name. Dump frames, they are really bad for seo. Cheryl D. Wise MS FrontPage MVP Certified Professional Web Developer Online instructor led training in FrontPage, Web Accessibility & Illustrator See http://starttoweb.com -Original Message- From: Jennifer Thanks Bj, but we have used frames before in this way (footer frame) and have not had this problem, with no js workaround. See http://www.tulgeengroup.org.au/ I agree about the frames, and I'm almost ready to dump them but the client is very keen on an ever-present footer - what would be a better way to do it The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re:[wdvltalk] frames and titles
Thanks Bj, but we have used frames before in this way (footer frame) and have not had this problem, with no js workaround. See http://www.tulgeengroup.org.au/ I agree about the frames, and I'm almost ready to dump them but the client is very keen on an ever-present footer - what would be a better way to do it? Jen � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] frames and titles
- Original Message - From: "Jennifer Severn" I have a site under construction which has a footer in a frame. The footer contains a string of text links. The problem is that although the links work fine, the page title does not change upon opening the new page. See http://www.indigoedge.com.au/4w3/html/festival_2006.html Does anyone have a clue how to fix this? The page title on a framed site will always be the title of the enclosing frame. But you can change the title using JavaScript. If you have a link in a footer frame loading a page into an upper frame, you need to make your link call some JavaScript to (i) load the new page and (ii) change the enclosing frame title I'm a bit rusty nowadays but here's a sketch of what you have to do. Name the frames: Put some script in the of the nav frame
