Re: [wdvltalk] OT: how to edit Windows Welcome logon screen?
At 11:54 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: [Reply Inline] PBC Web Design wrote: Hi Scott, Well, the problem is that when I go to set a non-admin account I get the msg that some programs may not work properly. That worries me. Don't let it, that is to be expected. Programs which require admin access for operation and/or installation, such as heavy-duty system utilities, etc., will not work on a user account which does not have admin access control. That is as it should be, and is _precisely_ the behavior you wish to obtain. If you want everyone to be able to have admin control of your system, you shouldn't be sweating this to begin with. Expect users without admin-level control to be denied the ability to perform actions which should properly be reserved to the administrator (that's you, in this case). That is, after all, the point, n'est-ce pas? Apparently I misunderstood this then. The message led me to believe that my programs may not work properly and I took that to mean anything I had installed was potentially not going to work properly and that is what scared me. Thanks for explaining that. Then I see that it appears the different accounts save things in different areas. I've got enough to remember where one account saves things let alone two. Just how much of a difference am I going to find this will be by setting a non-admin account? Basically, none whatsoever. You are absolutely correct, things are saved in different areas for different users. If you stop and think about it, it must be so. Windows enables multiple users have have their own configurations, their own software, their own settings, their own mail accounts and address books, etc. How would you propose that this be done without providing separate areas for each user in which to store these settings and data? When you create a new user account, that account gets its own Desktop, Favorites, Local Settings, My Documents, Start Menu, Application Data, etc. Each user is then free to customize his or her own workspace as they see fit, without affecting other users' workspaces. Again, this is as it should be. Ok, this helps, too. Thanks =) Only the administrator has the privilege of designating whether a program should be installed for only his account, or for all users. Some programs (such as those mentioned above requiring admin-level control) will not even install, period, unless an administrator is currently logged on. Once again, that is... oh, hell, you get the idea. I tried my favorite screensaver and on resume it will not display the password protected window to get back in. How long did you wait after initiating the screensaver? Windows, in a rare display of understanding of the foibles of users, provides for a delay of 12-15 seconds from screensaver initiation during which simply moving the mouse or striking a key will dismiss the screensaver. During this period, if you trigger the screensaver and then immediately move the mouse or strike a key, the screensaver will dutifully dismiss without requiring access via the Welcome screen. Beyond that timeout, however, dismissing the screensaver will bring up the Welcome screen. Run a couple of tests; give it, say, 20-30 seconds, and let me know what you find out. I tried this again several times w/both my own screensaver and the WinXP. I did test it several times giving it varied times of screensaver activity (both before you mentioned this and after) before attempting to get back in. It's a bit intermittent it seems to be working some better. It seems to work better when the screensaver self initiates than when I manually activate it by using a shortcut I manually added to my taskbar. One thing that's weird is that each time I tested this and the welcome screen activated it added 1 more programs running to the welcome window. So, does this mean I actually have X number of sessions of the current user running? That seems to me like it could drain resources or give other kinds of problems. I'll give everything you said a try, thanks so much for the help and explanations. I've never in my life ever password protected my computer before so this is all new to me. I really hate having to have to resort to this. It just adds extra steps for me but one must do what one must do. Deb The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List
Re: [wdvltalk] OT: how to edit Windows Welcome logon screen?
PBC Web Design wrote: Hi, I have switched over to password protecting my XP Home edition computer. I now have 2 accounts (thanks for that tip, Mark!) and this is working very well. However, I need to do one more thing and I hope you all can help me. When viewing the Windows Logon screen in the lower right corner are the words: After you logon, you can add or change accounts. Just go to the Control Panel and click User Accounts Well, nothing like telling the non-techie people you are trying to keep out of your system how to bypass this if you do happen to leave your computer open, is my thought. I need to know where I can edit this wording (remove it!) as I don't want that to show. ::SNIP:: Deb, believe me, removing those words will not prevent anyone who might know enough to muck with user account settings from doing so. Protect yourself by giving only _your_ account Administrator access, and _never_ giving the account's password to anyone else; anyone coming in on another account will not be able to access system user account settings even if they want to, if you ensure that only your account has admin access. With respect to your screensaver, I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. AFAIK, any screensaver, third-party or otherwise, can be set to require password on resume. Right-click the desktop, select Properties, then select the screensaver tab. Check the box that says, On resume, display Welcome screen, or, On resume, require password, depending upon your version. This will cause your Welcome screen (which is nothing but a full-screen password dialog) to display when exiting the screensaver, which makes sense--you might not want the current contents of your desktop displayed to someone while the system awaits a valid password for access. Note that if you have your display power settings set to turn off the monitor after a set time (same Properties dialog as the screensaver), and that time is set to a shorter interval than your screensaver, unless you also go into Power Options Properties|Advanced and check the box labeled, Prompt for password when computer resumes from standby, you will not get a password prompt. Check that box, and regardless of which (power settings or screensaver) activates first, a password prompt will appear on resume. Also, if you would like to have a way to instantly switch on your screensaver, say when you get up to go away from your desktop, download this tiny (3.5 kb!) app http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?1600036297 and create a shortcut to it that you can put on your desktop. As soon as you click it, whatever screensaver you have selected as default will be launched. See the Readme file for instructions on creating a system-aware hotkey, so all you have to do to activate it is press, for example, F12. Cheers, Scott The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] OT: how to edit Windows Welcome logon screen?
Hi Scott, Well, the problem is that when I go to set a non-admin account I get the msg that some programs may not work properly. That worries me. Then I see that it appears the different accounts save things in different areas. I've got enough to remember where one account saves things let alone two. Just how much of a difference am I going to find this will be by setting a non-admin account? I tried my favorite screensaver and on resume it will not display the password protected window to get back in. I have all my turn off monitor/drives set to never so timing them doesn't appear to be the problem. Thanks, Deb _ At 03:05 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Deb, believe me, removing those words will not prevent anyone who might know enough to muck with user account settings from doing so. Protect yourself by giving only _your_ account Administrator access, and _never_ giving the account's password to anyone else; anyone coming in on another account will not be able to access system user account settings even if they want to, if you ensure that only your account has admin access. With respect to your screensaver, I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. AFAIK, any screensaver, third-party or otherwise, can be set to require password on resume. Right-click the desktop, select Properties, then select the screensaver tab. Check the box that says, On resume, display Welcome screen, or, On resume, require password, depending upon your version. This will cause your Welcome screen (which is nothing but a full-screen password dialog) to display when exiting the screensaver, which makes sense--you might not want the current contents of your desktop displayed to someone while the system awaits a valid password for access. » Deb « http://www.puterbug.com Professional Web Design, SEO VPS Web Hosting Services Offlist Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag argument: '' To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
Re: [wdvltalk] OT: how to edit Windows Welcome logon screen?
[Reply Inline] PBC Web Design wrote: Hi Scott, Well, the problem is that when I go to set a non-admin account I get the msg that some programs may not work properly. That worries me. Don't let it, that is to be expected. Programs which require admin access for operation and/or installation, such as heavy-duty system utilities, etc., will not work on a user account which does not have admin access control. That is as it should be, and is _precisely_ the behavior you wish to obtain. If you want everyone to be able to have admin control of your system, you shouldn't be sweating this to begin with. Expect users without admin-level control to be denied the ability to perform actions which should properly be reserved to the administrator (that's you, in this case). That is, after all, the point, n'est-ce pas? Then I see that it appears the different accounts save things in different areas. I've got enough to remember where one account saves things let alone two. Just how much of a difference am I going to find this will be by setting a non-admin account? Basically, none whatsoever. You are absolutely correct, things are saved in different areas for different users. If you stop and think about it, it must be so. Windows enables multiple users have have their own configurations, their own software, their own settings, their own mail accounts and address books, etc. How would you propose that this be done without providing separate areas for each user in which to store these settings and data? When you create a new user account, that account gets its own Desktop, Favorites, Local Settings, My Documents, Start Menu, Application Data, etc. Each user is then free to customize his or her own workspace as they see fit, without affecting other users' workspaces. Again, this is as it should be. Only the administrator has the privilege of designating whether a program should be installed for only his account, or for all users. Some programs (such as those mentioned above requiring admin-level control) will not even install, period, unless an administrator is currently logged on. Once again, that is... oh, hell, you get the idea. I tried my favorite screensaver and on resume it will not display the password protected window to get back in. I have all my turn off monitor/drives set to never so timing them doesn't appear to be the problem. How long did you wait after initiating the screensaver? Windows, in a rare display of understanding of the foibles of users, provides for a delay of 12-15 seconds from screensaver initiation during which simply moving the mouse or striking a key will dismiss the screensaver. During this period, if you trigger the screensaver and then immediately move the mouse or strike a key, the screensaver will dutifully dismiss without requiring access via the Welcome screen. Beyond that timeout, however, dismissing the screensaver will bring up the Welcome screen. Run a couple of tests; give it, say, 20-30 seconds, and let me know what you find out. Thanks, Deb _ At 03:05 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Deb, believe me, removing those words will not prevent anyone who might know enough to muck with user account settings from doing so. Protect yourself by giving only _your_ account Administrator access, and _never_ giving the account's password to anyone else; anyone coming in on another account will not be able to access system user account settings even if they want to, if you ensure that only your account has admin access. With respect to your screensaver, I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. AFAIK, any screensaver, third-party or otherwise, can be set to require password on resume. Right-click the desktop, select Properties, then select the screensaver tab. Check the box that says, On resume, display Welcome screen, or, On resume, require password, depending upon your version. This will cause your Welcome screen (which is nothing but a full-screen password dialog) to display when exiting the screensaver, which makes sense--you might not want the current contents of your desktop displayed to someone while the system awaits a valid password for access. ::SNIP:: The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
