Re: [Web-SIG] Adding wsgiref to stdlib

2006-04-29 Thread Bill Janssen
 It still looks like an application of WSGI, not part of a reference
 implementation.

It seems to me that canonical exemplars are part of what a reference
implementation should include.  Otherwise it would be a standard
implementation, which is considerably different.

Bill

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Re: [Web-SIG] [Python-Dev] Adding wsgiref to stdlib

2006-04-29 Thread Bill Janssen
 Perhaps this could go in Demo/wsgiref/?

Perhaps both Ian's and Phillip's examples could go into Demo/wsgiref/?

Bill
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Re: [Web-SIG] [Python-Dev] Adding wsgiref to stdlib

2006-04-29 Thread Ian Bicking
Phillip J. Eby wrote:
 At 07:48 PM 4/28/2006 -0500, Ian Bicking wrote:
 One is not more complex than the other.
 
 The implementation has more moving parts, but I was talking about 
 conceptual complexity.
 
 The most common web servers do not match path prefixes, they have 
 directories and files.  You can't have /foo/bar without a /foo.  I see 
 little value in implementing a system where you *can* have /foo/bar 
 without a /foo.  HTTP URLs are inherently and explicitly hierarchical; 
 they aren't arbitrary strings that happen to have slashes in them, which 
 is what prefix matching treats them as.

Apache matches prefixes with Alias.  It does not require directories, it 
doesn't care about the existence of intermediate directories.  It 
doesn't even care about slashes (though I find that behavior unhelpful). 
  From what I can tell Lighttpd uses regex matching on the path, so it 
doesn't treat / as special.  Xitami also seems to just be a path.

Because applications use PATH_INFO in whatever way they want, there is 
no way to know if /foo exists.  If / exist, then /foo exists, even 
though it may return a 404.  If you have an app at /, and an app at 
/private/cms, then perhaps /private is served by the application at /. 
The matcher doesn't know, and doesn't need to know.

Prefix matching is how web servers work, and for good reason.  Let's 
just stick with the conventional implementation.


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